Skip to comments.I am looking for the name of a writer (AA)
Posted on 03/17/2012 11:37:59 AM PDT by Sokol
I am looking for the name of a writer (deceased) who wrote about his personal journey with AA (Alcoholics Anonymous). I think he was from New York and may have been a priest. He only died within the past 5-8 years - I think. He was not anti-AA, but disagreed with many of the teachings such as ALWAYS being an alcoholic. If you know of the writer, please let me know.
I have never met an alcoholic who wants to keep drinking, who didn’t disbelieve that alcoholics are ALWAYS alcoholics. They soon relapse and end up right back in the old hole they dug and climbed out...Alcoholics are born, not made.
At any rate - if you have more info, I have minds I can tap.
Bill - no last name.
Father Martin was a priest who spoke on alcoholism and was a strong supporter of AA.
Could it be?
Fr. Ralph Pfau, aka Fr. John Doe
Author of “Sobriety Without End” and “Sobriety and Beyond”
Was it Father Mychal Judge, the priest who died in the Twin Towers? I don’t know if he wrote any books but books have been written about him.
“AA”! Is that Alcoholics Anonymous, African-American, Anti-Aircraft, people with small feet, women who are built like boys, or perhaps a book about batteries?
Could it be Jerry Dunn? “God is for the Alcoholic”
Too funny. For those who are real alcoholics they will guaran-damn-tee you that once a drunk always a drunk. You can try and dodge it all you want. We watch many people die doing so
WHOA for you. I am trailing you a bit-—15 and a half and counting. This plan for living is one that I am ever so grateful to have
You lack an understanding of AA. The whole point of the program and the book is to help one find a power greater than themselves.... a spiritual awakening if you will,,,, that will get and keep them sober. Perhaps your father was not ready to do the things asked of him before he joined the church. All of us who get sober find God in order to get and stay sober and live happy and meaningful lives
17 yrs and 51 weeks here. Keep up the good work. Gets a whole lot easier though once you’ve got a couple years behind you.
14 years coming up in one week.
Many, many blessings, one of the most precious being my grandchildren having never seen me drunk.
I have always wondered why Alcoholics Anonymous uses the term “recovering alcoholic” when they don’t believe an alcoholic can recover.
It could also be Associate of Arts, a two-year college degree.
Ain’t that the truth. Looking back I can not believe I stayed sober those first two years....now almost 16 yrs sober and it still amazes me. So glad I was given the gift of desperation....
Actually we use the term recovered....as in we have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. What we believe is that we cannot be CURED. There is a big difference.
Because we are always in the process of recovery. It takes the rest of your life with diligence and commitment to stay sober.
Twenty three and half years without a drink because of AA.
When I started drinking it was not a moment that I wasn't thinking about drinking. Now I can days - even weeks without actually thinking about it.
42 years last April 28th but whose counting Good job on all of you
Ah, yes. Well, some of us have tried to hold on to our old ideas, but the result was nil until we let go absolutely. Sadly, I've seen way too many find reasons to opt out and seek an easier, softer way. It rarely ends well, which is one reason I've kept coming back for 39 years. Had a great meeting this morning. The fellowship is even better than FR. This day-at-a-time is looking good, (but I wish the Zags were doing better against OSU)
16 and a half hours here.
(one day at a time)
We all started at one minute For most of us it is still a daily struggle
“He went to a Catholic church, but traditional & dead church”
What does “traditional & dead church” mean?
Were you looking for one less “traditional” than than the one Christ began?
Or, perhaps more “modern and entertaining”?
Congratulations to all. I’m so inspired by all of you!
16 and a half hours here.
(one day at a time)
At first I was kind of miffed at your comment. Then I got it. Cheers to you.
“people with small feet,”
I attend an Evangelical Church today where I learn God's word, how God told us to live, and where His word in alive in word and deed. No, I too do not care for churches looking to tickle your ears, I want my soul to be fed.
Sorry if I offended you. I'll be more careful with my wording.
AA is a very small shoe size.
Many people have said (and I sometimes agree) that I am not so much an example of sobriety, but a warning to others on how not to do it.
Early on I bent,broke, or ignored every suggestion in the big book.
I now have three ‘X’s on my chip. I consider it triple x sobriety. In all these years I have learned one lesson, and one lesson only;
“Don’t drink and go to meetings”
When people ask me;
“How long have you been sober ?”
My usual reply is;
Had an uncle who was an organized alcoholic. He got two weeks vacation every year. Never drank one bit until he started a vacation, then retired to the bedroom where he stayed and got rip-roaring drunk for the two weeks. He sobered up on the Friday before work, and when he went back never touched a drop until his next vacation. Damnest thing I ever saw.
Your probably right. He just never took God serious until he went to this church. I do know people who went to AA remained sober. My mom,my sister and I went to Alanon. Nice people.
I witnessed first hand how hard it is to fight your way to the top. The most compassion people I know are recovering alcoholic. My dad was there anytime day or night when someone needed him. He gave so much, yet he always said he got much more than he gave.
42 1/2 years, by the grace of God. Who would have thought?
A big congratulations! Your right, by the grace of God.
I reply “no thanks, I’ve already had enough to drink” sometimes when offered a drink or a glass of wine.
15 is a great number. One old timer likes to collect statistics and he said that 95% of the folks who make 5 years and stay active in AA never drink again.
Depending on who is doing the offering, one of my favorites is, “No thanks...I’m allergic. When I drink alcohol I break out in the strangest places...Chicago...Boston...Florida...”
Yup and you got em in the right order. ;)
Alanon, our sister organization, has much to teach those who will listen
That is a believable number. I have noticed that of the folks who started when I did only a few of us made it to the first year, fewer still to the five year mark, and even less to 15. But those who stay sure develop tight bonds and are very protective of each other. They aren’t necessarily my ‘friends’ but there isn’t a one of them who wants to see me go get drunk.... and they are willing to help me stay sober.
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