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Testing the First Amendment: Is Obama pushing martial law?
Across the Back Fence ^ | 03/18/2012 | Todd Fitchette

Posted on 03/18/2012 3:51:43 PM PDT by WriteStuff

The fact that this has gone viral since it was released, and that those who’ve commented on it all believe this is nothing less than martial law under a more politically-correct name, is in itself significant reason to appropriately react. Could this be the beginning of martial law in America? Unless the President is clairvoyant and he’s doing this in reaction to some future event that only he sees in his mind’s eye — an event some argue he’s hoping to instigate — the Constitutional crisis this raises is frightening.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: government; martiallaw; obama; politics

1 posted on 03/18/2012 3:51:51 PM PDT by WriteStuff
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To: WriteStuff

If this was done by W, it would be considered another wonderful and glorious patriotic act.


2 posted on 03/18/2012 3:56:16 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Plenty of us knew that the Patriot Act was a mistake. Homeland Security was never implemented in a way justified by the Constitution. The feds tried to take away our freedom and they hoped that we would feel safer because of it.


3 posted on 03/18/2012 3:58:50 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The federales had every ambition of depriving illegal aliens and enemy aliens of their opportunity of depriving US of our rights.


4 posted on 03/18/2012 4:02:45 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WriteStuff

Yes it is and the part of our communists black Muslim effort to become dictator. And the foundation is growing.


5 posted on 03/18/2012 4:03:21 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: WriteStuff
So how come we don't see any media coverage of this or politicians shouting foul? We have become so use to seeing our constitutional rights being eroded we don't even respond. The progressives have won.
6 posted on 03/18/2012 4:05:13 PM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You’re right. Only problem is now we have a Marxist Muslim gay illegal alien for president.


7 posted on 03/18/2012 4:05:23 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: WriteStuff

Well all the freepers who can’t decide whether they will be able to pull the lever for Romney in Nov may not have to make that decision after all. May not be any elections. Alan Keyes predicted this at the time of Obama’s election. The Marxist takeover is moving along on schedule.

I’m still waiting for the GOP to save us. (sarc)


8 posted on 03/18/2012 4:09:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I do not think that these acts done by any president could be looked upon as glorious as we are loosing our freedoms one by one and are mostly just yawning.

Freedom of speech, assembly, religion....life and death are up to bat here. Not a joke. Not paranoia. This is for real. We are facing a communist form of government where the state controls all and our constitution is being shredded and we are letting it happen.

Do you want to live under socialism? I don’t. I hold some politically incorrect (moral) views for which I may have to pay a dear price. Our country is not what it was! Please wake up!


9 posted on 03/18/2012 4:10:16 PM PDT by magdalen
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

By you, for sure.


10 posted on 03/18/2012 4:10:44 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Logical me
Yes it is and the part of our communists black Muslim effort to become dictator. And the foundation is growing.

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Zer0's a 'little Mugabe' dictator; pure and simple. Constitution be damned, Bill of Rights be damned, Congress be damned.

It's and Executive Order for Emergency Communism.

embarrassment

11 posted on 03/18/2012 4:13:08 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: WriteStuff

Certainly Obama doesn’t let the Constitution bother him.
This is not his first act against the Constitution.

This will not be the first time the Congress ignores his unConstitutional acts.

Truman once had a do-nothing Congress, but they were great compared to this pack of perk eaters.All this bunch cares about is staying in office. There aren’t 20 Patriots in the whole pack.——from either party.


12 posted on 03/18/2012 4:14:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SaraJohnson
"By you, for sure."

Between my opinion and your misunderstanding of my opinion there is a vast sar-chasm.

13 posted on 03/18/2012 4:16:11 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Americanexpat

So how come we don’t see any media coverage of this or politicians shouting foul?


Because we already live in a dictatorship? Now it is in writing.


14 posted on 03/18/2012 4:16:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

This president and Congress are the unfounding fathers and mothers of Africa.


15 posted on 03/18/2012 4:18:17 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: ClearCase_guy

“We’re here to help you; Mission creep” never ends well for the American people. Social Security, Medicare, EPA, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, TSA, 0bamacare (includes student loans), etc.


16 posted on 03/18/2012 4:19:49 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I told my friends and family when he was elected that I didn’t think he ever intended to leave. Too many things have pointed to that mindset with him. He is too arrogant and has never intended to give up the power and money they are enjoying now.


17 posted on 03/18/2012 4:22:41 PM PDT by TXLady
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To: WriteStuff
IMHO; Executive Orders that effectively is a Dictatorship, without Challenging the Constitutionality of it, shoul be Cause for Treason Charges against the Usurper, as he has NO Constitutionaly authority to impose uni-lateral dictates on We The People.

Congressmen should be REMOVED FROM OFFICE for Derelection of Duty, if they authorize funding for these schemes that are Legislation without Congressional Appropriation. There's NO WAY these Dictates from The Messiah should be allowed to be funded, and "National Defense" has NOTHING to do with this one!

18 posted on 03/18/2012 4:23:52 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
There are a few differences. I think the Patriot Act was a knee-jerk reaction to a successful assault on US soil and while it was overreaching and plain, old unconstitutional, at least there was a reason.
It is now over ten years later and, though there is always a threat nowadays, there is no imminent threat. Why now? Is it the gradual progression of the planned takeover or maybe a safety net in case it becomes obvious that they will lose control in the election?
19 posted on 03/18/2012 4:24:32 PM PDT by traintown57
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To: SaraJohnson

We’re in a Marxist dominated Oligarchy.

The American Nomenclatura is in place.

Congress will make noises about all this but they won’t cross the line because their families have been threatened.

Now it’s all mostly for show.


20 posted on 03/18/2012 4:24:32 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: magdalen
"Do you want to live under socialism?"

Do you really think that the US will ever move more left than Western Europe? Technically Western Europe is not socialist because the means of production is mostly privately held.

Do you think that somehow in the US the powers that be are going to try to turn all of the corporations into government agencies? Do you think they even want to?

Socialism is not the real enemy. The real enemy is, and has always been, oligarchy. The good news about the oligarchy here in the US is that it is not completely based on bloodlines: any one of us, theoretically, can become one of the oligarchs. Also, there seems to be more turnover among our oligarchs than in such times/places as Rome, various Holy Roman Empires, various European Kingdoms/Empires, Nazi Germany, Tzarist Russia, Communist Russia, Putin's Russia, Communist China, Cuba, Ho Chi Minh's Vietnam, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Venezuela, etc.

Do you really think that Stalin or Lenin really believed in Communism? Or that Mao did? They were scumbag crony capitalists who were just more brutal in maintaining their monopolies than Government Electric, Government Motors, or Government Sachs.

Certainly the governments of Western Europe, and our own US government, subject our corporations to a myriad of taxes and regulations. Certainly this limits what they can do. But do they respond by ousting the government? No. They just bribe officials to make the taxes and regulations a bit less onerous for them, and a bit more onerous for their competition.

I work for a major corporation which most Americans would consider to be a hotbed of right-wing anti-Socialism. And yet our leaders are proud of their affirmative action programs, their LGBT seal-of-approval, their environmental advocacy, etc.

My company doesn't want the US government to get smaller. They need all those government contracts to survive. They thrilled at the creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security. They love the fact that the US government is going to need all sorts of new technology to keep track of enemies abroad and of our own citizens at home.

Like all good capitalists, they want to privatize the profits and socialize the costs.

Their shareholders agree.

As do their knowing or ideologically brainwashed shills on FR.

21 posted on 03/18/2012 4:37:39 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Between your understanding of freepers, who you accused of being for a Marxist dictatorship, and reality is way off too, bud. Screw you.


22 posted on 03/18/2012 4:38:25 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: traintown57
"there is no imminent threat."

I agree, but then you and I seem to be in the minority here on FR.

I am continuously reminded here on FR that the Muslim threat is ever-present. They will never stop in their hopes of creating a worldwide Caliphate under Sharia Law. A world where all Christians will be reduced to dhimmi-tude.

So obviously it's a good thing that Obama renewed this EO ... isn't it?

23 posted on 03/18/2012 4:40:57 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SaraJohnson
"Between your understanding of freepers, who you accused of being for a Marxist dictatorship, and reality is way off too, bud. Screw you."

Reading skills. Sense of humor. Sense of history.

All good things, and highly recommended.

24 posted on 03/18/2012 4:42:20 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Dry up junior.


25 posted on 03/18/2012 4:43:23 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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To: unkus
Congress has been reduced to a rubber-stamp for Obama. Check your Congressman’s .gov website. Very few have made any noise at all about Dear Leader. My Tea Party rep Steve Southerland, who beat a seven term rat named Allen Boyd with my help, hasn't complained at all about our slide into tyranny.

Reps and Senators sit back and enjoy their perks as they slough off lawmaking to Obama, his secretaries and czars. Why offer resistance? It will only anger some constituents and all of the local media.

Obama is a direct assault on every American. Where are the articles of impeachment?

26 posted on 03/18/2012 4:45:22 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: SaraJohnson

THANK YOU SARA

MY THOUGHTS AS WELL

AND TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA,,,TWO LETTER COMMENT.

F U


27 posted on 03/18/2012 4:47:39 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: unkus
A Marxist oligarchy?

Really?

That's a new one.

I can understand oligarchs like Stalin and Mao who presented themselves as Marxists/Communists as a way of getting the people to accept their horrible fates.

But oligarchs who actually believe in Marxism when Marxism makes the bold claim that oligarchies will fade away? Are we still in the "dictatorship of the proletariat" phase? But wasn't that Lenin's cute addition to Marxist theory? And didn't that whole "dictatorship of the proletariat" thing go bust a few years back?

Obama is an oligarch plain and simple. No need for him to believe in Marxist theory when he's sipping Pina Colada's poolside in Hawaii, or teeing up a golf ball at Congressional.

28 posted on 03/18/2012 4:48:55 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Your logic seems to be somewhat lacking. My argument is that there is no reason to “renew”, meaning in this case, expand overbearing government intrusion on our lives and decisions, let alone personal property.
Do you convince many people by agreeing with them and then trying to tell them they agree with you?


29 posted on 03/18/2012 4:52:34 PM PDT by traintown57
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Butt and I do mean Butt. W DIDN’T DO IT!

end of argument. you lost. good day sir.


30 posted on 03/18/2012 4:55:32 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Obama is an oligarch plain and simple. No need for him to believe in Marxist theory when he’s sipping Pina Colada’s poolside in Hawaii, or teeing up a golf ball at Congressional.


Thanks for reinforcing my point. And I said Marxist “dominated”.


31 posted on 03/18/2012 5:31:09 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: WriteStuff
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

Sec. 308. Government-Owned Equipment. The head of each agency engaged in procurement for the national defense is delegated the authority of the President under section 303(e) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2093(e), to:

(a) procure and install additional equipment, facilities, processes, or improvements to plants, factories, and other industrial facilities owned by the Federal Government and to procure and install Government owned equipment in plants, factories, or other industrial facilities owned by private persons;

(b) provide for the modification or expansion of privately owned facilities, including the modification or improvement of production processes, when taking actions under sections 301, 302, or 303 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2091, 2092, 2093; and

(c) sell or otherwise transfer equipment owned by the Federal Government and installed under section 303(e) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2093(e), to the owners of such plants, factories, or other industrial facilities.

This is the nazification of the industrial base. Obama can take over any business anytime for anyreason. Goodbye private property.

32 posted on 03/18/2012 7:06:04 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Jihad is an institution inherent to the Islamic system itself; a permanent religious obligation)
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To: x_plus_one
Sec. 502. Consultants. The head of each agency otherwise delegated functions under this order is delegated the authority of the President under sections 710(b) and (c) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(b), (c), to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation and to employ experts, consultants, or organizations. The authority delegated by this section may not be redelegated.

Even the Nazis paid their experts. What is wrong with this pack of thieves?

33 posted on 03/18/2012 7:18:38 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Jihad is an institution inherent to the Islamic system itself; a permanent religious obligation)
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To: x_plus_one
On a related note:

Francis Fox Piven renews calls for "Bottom up - (top down)" youtube

34 posted on 03/18/2012 7:28:04 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: WriteStuff

I knew it when he was elected. Obama is going to go all Hugo Chavez on us.

He lost congress and isn’t likely to get it back and he’s likely to lose the upcoming election.
BUT*** Obama is on an Alinski-ite mission. he will find an excuse to invoke this order and suspend the constitution.

I’m betting his excuse will be an attack on Iran.


35 posted on 03/18/2012 7:37:49 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Cyclops08

I hope he does it. This death from a thousand cuts is killing me. Lets see what Congress and SCOTUS is all about.


36 posted on 03/18/2012 7:40:22 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Ben Franklin warned us of this over 200 years ago.

37 posted on 03/18/2012 8:21:48 PM PDT by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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