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Why Rick Santorum Should Stop Talking About Porn
Forbes ^ | 03/18/12 | Christopher Helman

Posted on 03/18/2012 7:42:17 PM PDT by Fred

Last week Rick Santorum vowed to end America’s “pandemic of pornography,” insisting that if he were president he would limit the rights of adults to show and view images of consenting adults having sex. No doubt there is too much pornography in this country, and anyone thinking of watching it should go read their Bible instead. But what I want in a president is a pragmatist, not a panderer.

It would have been one thing for Santorum to say that his real crusade is against pedophilia or against child trafficking. Those are real evils that must be stopped. But that’s not what he said.

Here’s why Santorum should stop talking about porn.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: mittromney; newtgingrich; porn; porno; pornography; ricksantorum; santorum; santorum4romney; senatorsanctimonious; yellowjournalism
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1 posted on 03/18/2012 7:42:31 PM PDT by Fred
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To: Fred

The media keeps asking, and then when he answers, then they criticize him for talking about it. Liberals.


2 posted on 03/18/2012 7:43:54 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Rick Santorum For President)
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To: Pinkbell
The folks who get their stuff about pornography and homosexuality published in Forbes definitely know what the preferences are with the Forbes editorial board.

Say, wasn't Forbe's dad a homosexual?

Well, there you have it. No more discussion is needed.

3 posted on 03/18/2012 7:46:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pinkbell

Exactly!

Santorum 2012


4 posted on 03/18/2012 7:47:41 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Pinkbell

Santorum is turning into a goof being mislead around by the nose in his incessant bait taking babbeling.

Not what I want in a president

there is no hope...Willard, Reverend ( save us from naked ladies) Santorum and the Newtster... What on earth did we do to deserve this pile of crap.


5 posted on 03/18/2012 7:49:09 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Pinkbell

Santorum is turning into a goof being mislead around by the nose in his incessant bait taking babbeling.

Not what I want in a president

there is no hope...Willard, Reverend ( save us from naked ladies) Santorum and the Newtster... What on earth did we do to deserve this pile of crap.


6 posted on 03/18/2012 7:49:08 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Fred

When asked about pornography, contraception, etc, Santorum should answer “Let’s talk about something more urgent, such as jobs, economy, gas prices, Afghanistan etc”. Getting tangled up on social issues is a loser.


7 posted on 03/18/2012 7:49:46 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: Fred
Why is the media and columnists directing Santorum which way he should say things. Everyone seems to be helping him with how he should say things or offer the polices in which he should offer.
8 posted on 03/18/2012 7:50:09 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Fred

Ask the author the next time he is watching his filth how he would feel if it was his daughter that he was watching.


9 posted on 03/18/2012 7:51:21 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Christie at the beach

Maybe because Santorum is a bait-eating moron, as are his supporters?


10 posted on 03/18/2012 7:51:41 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Breto

I agree.

I want a President as the leader of the United States.

My preacher is for my church.


11 posted on 03/18/2012 7:52:31 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: crusty old prospector

I don’t even care how the author feels or felt about his daughter in porn.

I want less than $4 a gallon gas and unemployment less than 15%.


12 posted on 03/18/2012 7:54:03 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Pinkbell
The media keeps asking, and then when he answers, then they criticize him for talking about it.

Another way to look at it: The media keep asking Santorum for ammunition that they can use against him, and he keeps giving it to them, and they keep using it against him.

13 posted on 03/18/2012 7:54:03 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Fred
Last week Rick Santorum vowed to end America’s “pandemic of pornography,” insisting that if he were president he would limit the rights of adults to show and view images of consenting adults having sex. Bloody nonsense. Santorum didn't say that he would do this last week. He had on his website in months and vowed to return to the Bush era enforcement of federal obscenity laws as opposed to Obama choosing not to enforce the law.
14 posted on 03/18/2012 7:55:03 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: Fred
Gas headed to $4 dollars plus and unemployment truthfully somewhere around 15% and he allows himself to make comments on porn as if it's a primary issue.

He'll bury himself before it's over.

16 posted on 03/18/2012 7:56:24 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Fred

As Santorum is naieve enough to get led into this obvious
trap, he’s not NEARLY ready for the presidency.


17 posted on 03/18/2012 7:57:38 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Fred

Here’s an idea. Just talk about those things that are actually delegated to the federal government, and authorized by an enumerated power.


18 posted on 03/18/2012 7:59:20 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: muawiyah

No. Malcolm Forbes was not a homosexual and no one will ever convince me otherwise.


19 posted on 03/18/2012 8:00:03 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Breto
-> ladies) Santorum and the Newtster

I would rather have Newt's brain making decisions vs RomNey or santos wandering minds...

20 posted on 03/18/2012 8:00:38 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Pinkbell

They are just setting him up so they can ridicule him. He shouldn’t fall for these fringe questions and just answer that he will make sure that laws are within the bounds of the Constitution by appointing judges who deal with those issues who understand and support the “laws of nature and nature’s God”-— who will uphold the Constitutional principles of Just Laws.


21 posted on 03/18/2012 8:00:43 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Fred
Santorum needs to learn from Newt how to deal with the issues and how to deal with the MSM. Santorum is unable to articulate the problems facing our country and is easily distracted and ridiculed by the MSM.

Santorum needs to deal with the MSM the way Newt does.

22 posted on 03/18/2012 8:01:10 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective
-> Santorum needs to deal with the MSM the way Newt does

That's impossible; there is only one Newt Gingrich who can smack down the media.

23 posted on 03/18/2012 8:03:26 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: tacticalogic

The Republican Party should devote itself totally and entirely to the poor. It should advocate that every dollar of federal public revenue go to the poor, with no exceptions. Then, what would The Left do? Nothing. They would have no options left. Think about it. It would work.


24 posted on 03/18/2012 8:04:47 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: TChad

Santorum needs to do a better job of pivoting. Otherwise the media is going to own him if he gets the nomination.


25 posted on 03/18/2012 8:04:53 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Why Santos runs and what he IS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5cGYBV2TQ&feature=youtu.be


26 posted on 03/18/2012 8:05:15 PM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: Breto
Your right, it is most unfortunate. For a while Santorum had a chance to put Willard away and be the next president, no longer.

First, why would he say anything about what he would do about Porn. It is up to the courts and congress. If he wants to sign a bill that congress has passed and make it law thats great, but for goodness sake stop talking about stuff you can't do anything about as president.

We all want a conservative president, even one who has the values of Rick Santorum but we also need someone smart enough to know when to shut his mouth.

All these social remarks that everyone already knows Santorums position on has sunk him. If he doesn't do really well in Illinois he is finished and it is not looking good now, Rick is doing everything he can to make sure Romney is the nominee. He is throwing this away, why? He can't be stupid. I just fail to believe that someone who has finished law school can be stupid. The only place Newt could have done well is the South and Santorum has taken that away from him, he has made sure that all we get is Mitt Romney.

Early on there were accusations that Santorum was only in it to split votes and keep any of the other challengers from getting more votes than Romney, I'm starting to wonder if some of these people knew what they were talking about.

I'm starting to get a sinking feeling.

Can Romney beat Obama? I think my dog could beat Obama. We had a chance to have a really conservative president. Had! Way to go Rick.

27 posted on 03/18/2012 8:06:09 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Fred

He was my last hope but he is being set up too easily in the Punch and Judy show of politics. At least he speaks from his heart which is good.


28 posted on 03/18/2012 8:06:42 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: Keyes2000mt
Someone who wanted to win the Presidency might say: "Look, I've got very deep and personal convictions against pornography, but the reality is this country faces economic problems involving massive unemployment, trillions of dollars in unsustainable debt, runaway gas prices and a President who confuses campaigning with leadership. It's really time to focus on the issues that are of real importance to America and American families. To focus on anything else, at this point in time, would be foolish...."

That's what someone who wanted to win the Presidency would say....

29 posted on 03/18/2012 8:06:42 PM PDT by freebilly (Obama Sings While America Sinks....)
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To: crusty old prospector
You never know he may be one of those guys that hides in the closet while his wife has her boyfriend over. Seems he is sort of consumed with this BS. There is nothing in this world wrong with looking a beautiful nude ladies. Watching them and some guy have sex, is perverted.
30 posted on 03/18/2012 8:06:53 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Fred

Sounds like Santorum’s words got twisted, but that’s probably why he should, in fact, avoid talking about porn in the first place. Any voter who has fighting porn in the forefront of his mind is likely already a Santorum guy. Santorum has nothing to gain by even talking about it, since the media aren’t going to report what he actually said, but their spin on it.


31 posted on 03/18/2012 8:09:36 PM PDT by TroutGuy
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To: JAKraig

“””I just fail to believe that someone who has finished law school can be stupid. “””

I rise to a point of order,,,


32 posted on 03/18/2012 8:10:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: org.whodat

? Que...?


33 posted on 03/18/2012 8:10:53 PM PDT by freebilly (Obama Sings While America Sinks....)
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To: Christie at the beach

I’ll tell you how I think he should answer, “Do you want your 7 year old to see soft porn on daytime tv? Do you want to worry about your children hitting the wrong site with images that will rob them of their innocence?

Porn’s gotten out of hand. Used to be you had to go out of your way to find it, now you have to go out of your way to avoid it.


34 posted on 03/18/2012 8:11:16 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Fred

Did you know Santorum’s nick name when he was in high school was Rooster? LOL LOL LOL it was because he got riled so easily..now, I could really run with that but won’t...he crows enough and always about the wrong issues.


35 posted on 03/18/2012 8:11:22 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Breto
It's like you read my mind.
36 posted on 03/18/2012 8:11:22 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: NYCslicker
Think about it. It would work.

Kind of like suicide works on a cold?

37 posted on 03/18/2012 8:14:17 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: crusty old prospector
"Ask the author the next time he is watching his filth how he would feel if it was his daughter that he was watching."

That is the way I would want Santorum to come at this subject if he wants to continue talking about it. He should point out that pornography is exploitative and demeaning to women (feminists have said this repeatedly). And then he should ask someone if they would want one of their family members to be exposed to AIDS or other diseases so someone else can make a huge profit. And he might throw out something like the pornography industry should keep their filthy paws off the women.

38 posted on 03/18/2012 8:14:51 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Fred

The lavender mafia media should stop asking questions it does not want answered. The activists in the media should also be putting the SAME questions to the Democrat and Republican candidates, not JUST the Republican candidates.


39 posted on 03/18/2012 8:15:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: Fred

Boy, the Santorum haters are out for blood today. You’re not allowed to talk about this. You’re not allowed to talk about that. You aren’t allowed to say that Puerto Rico is a Spanish-speaking country.

You aren’t allowed to say that the kind of porn we have all over the place is sick, and that our courts and politicians are sick because they say that we have a right to porn, but we don’t have a right to criticize it. We have a right to have naked gay parades in our cities, but we don’t have a right to criticize them. That would be a hate crime.

It’s not for nothing that the Communists push this stuff. It’s bread a circuses for their mind-weakened constituents.

And Rick does talk about the fixing the economy and shrinking big government. It’s just that the media prefers not to tell us about it.

We have a Supreme Court that has said that porn is a First Amendment right, but mentioning prayer or the Bible in school is forbidden. No wonder our country is going to the dogs.


40 posted on 03/18/2012 8:15:25 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: freebilly

Your Post #29 is spot-on.


41 posted on 03/18/2012 8:17:34 PM PDT by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: Fred; All

From Rick Santorum’s website. I prefer Newt, but this sounds reasonable and rational to me; I think Rick is right. Only liberals/libertines/libertarians would find problems with this:

“Enforcing laws against illegal pornography”

America is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography. A wealth of research is now available demonstrating that pornography causes profound brain changes in both children and adults, resulting in widespread negative consequences. Addiction to pornography is now common for adults and even for some children. The average age of first exposure to hard-core, Internet pornography is now 11. Pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships. It contributes to misogyny and violence against women. It is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking.

Every family must now be concerned about the harm from pornography. As a parent, I am concerned about the widespread distribution of illegal obscene pornography and its profound effects on our culture.

For many decades, the American public has actively petitioned the United States Congress for laws prohibiting distribution of hard-core adult pornography.

Congress has responded. Current federal “obscenity” laws prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier. Rick Santorum believes that federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced. “If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so.”

The Obama Administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. While the Obama Department of Justice seems to favor pornographers over children and families, that will change under a Santorum Administration.

I proudly support the efforts of the War on Illegal Pornography Coalition that has tirelessly fought to get federal obscenity laws enforced. That coalition is composed of 120 national, state, and local groups, including Morality in Media, Family Research Council, Focus on the Family, American Family Association, Cornerstone Family Council of New Hampshire, Pennsylvania Family Institute, Concerned Women for America, The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, and a host of other groups. Together we will prevail.


42 posted on 03/18/2012 8:17:41 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: autumnraine

Then you are part of the rotten, festering sore that has this once great country has become. As long as it doesn’t affect my pocketbook, then everything is A-OK. Pornography is a blight on this nation and God’s judgement is not far behind.


43 posted on 03/18/2012 8:18:41 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Fred

1 I know Santorum shouldn’t get sidetracked

2 I know this issue probably can’t work.

3 Isn’t it a sad commentary about our society?


44 posted on 03/18/2012 8:18:55 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: tacticalogic

FCC.


45 posted on 03/18/2012 8:19:58 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: tacticalogic
Here’s an idea. Just talk about those things that are actually delegated to the federal government, and authorized by an enumerated power.

Pfft, how dare you suggest such a thing ;)

46 posted on 03/18/2012 8:20:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Breto

“Not what I want in a president”

Duh....then don’t vote for him. Of course that will leave you with Obama or Romney.


47 posted on 03/18/2012 8:20:35 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Fred

Santorum acts like an excited puppy leaping for a snack every time he is asked a question. He seems to have little discipline at all, and - although he best represents conservative views in general - he seem incapable of focusing as needed on the key issues required to destroy Obama. Contraception? Porn? Rick should just say “oh shut up and stop trying to change the subject...the issue is Obama’s tyranny, and I will END it!:


48 posted on 03/18/2012 8:22:33 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Fred

Santorum has become a “Johnny One Note” and a note that, while important, isn’t immediately of interest to folks who are unemployed or paying $4+ for gas or who have a family member fighting (or being restrained from fighting) in Afghanistan, or who paid $50 for groceries that would have been $35 a year or two ago.


49 posted on 03/18/2012 8:23:16 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Christie at the beach

If we are to get this country back on track we need far more than one politician who can smack down the media, we need a whole fleet of them.


50 posted on 03/18/2012 8:23:38 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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