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It's Time For Gingrich To Drop Out of Race For GOP Nomination [Editorial]
Times Herald (Georgia) ^ | March 15, 2012

Posted on 03/18/2012 9:05:17 PM PDT by Steelfish

Sunday, March 18, 2012

It's Time For Gingrich To Drop Out of Race For GOP Nomination

EDITORIAL

The time has come for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich to drop out the Republican presidential race and allow Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum to battle it out for the GOP nomination.

After an up-and-down campaign, Gingrich based his chances primarily on a Southern strategy. That worked, with wins in South Carolina and Georgia. Then Gingrich set his sights on Alabama and Mississippi, where voters make their decisions on Tuesday.

Gingrich had been first or second in those two states in pre-election polls. He earlier vowed he needed wins in the two states to have a chance, although he backed off on that claim during the weekend.

When the votes were counted Tuesday night, Santorum -- who was ranked third in the polls in both states -- won both Mississippi and Alabama. Gingrich was second. Romney was third.

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Time after time, writers from National Review, Weekly Standard, American Spectator, and several newspaper editorials have advised that Gingrich withdraw from the race rather than causing further damage to the anti-Romney candidacy and he still continues. No small wonder that onSuper Tuesday night Carl Cameron on FoxNews reported that Team Romney was "happy" to see Gingrich continue in the race. Romney won MI by 3% points, Ohio by under 1% and now leads Santorum by some 6%-8% in IL and Gingrich still siphons off around 10%-15% of the vote. His "southern strategy" having gone up in flames, Gingrich now simply is irrelevant except to denying Santorum at least an outside shot at the nomination and is simply greasing the wheels for a Romney nomination. This is now close to sabotage.
1 posted on 03/18/2012 9:05:23 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

>> This is now close to sabotage.

Get over yourself.

Go Newt!!!


2 posted on 03/18/2012 9:08:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Steelfish

At this point Gingrich will not be remembered as a great scholar and the author of Contract With America.

He will be remembered as the spoiler who gave Romney the nomination.


3 posted on 03/18/2012 9:09:12 PM PDT by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: ZULU

And Santorum will be remembered as the stalking horse for Mitt Romney

Marco Rubio does not agree with this worthless opine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860851/posts


4 posted on 03/18/2012 9:12:09 PM PDT by Fred (http://whenmittromneycametotown.com)
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To: ZULU

I could not have said it better. Chants of “Go Newt” means Romney wins by sneaking through the breach caused by a split in the anti-conservative vote and he wins major contests by a squeaker!!! I call it Gingrichian sabotage.


5 posted on 03/18/2012 9:12:29 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
If Romney get's the GOP nomination the total blame will be put on Newt and his supporters.
So much for their empty rhetoric of " anyone but Romney " .
6 posted on 03/18/2012 9:12:37 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Gene Eric

No, it seems the Newt supporters need to get over themselves in their selfish ambition of supporting Newt when we have had opportunity to win against Romney.


7 posted on 03/18/2012 9:13:59 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Fred

Rubio wants to Romney’s VP and so he wants Gingrich to stay in the race and help Romney win.


8 posted on 03/18/2012 9:15:30 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

>> Chants of “Go Newt” means Romney wins by sneaking through the breach caused by a split in the anti-conservative vote

That’s cute.


9 posted on 03/18/2012 9:17:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Steelfish

The Times Herald is written in Coweta County. 54% of Republican primary voters in Coweta County voted for Gingrich.


10 posted on 03/18/2012 9:18:49 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("For the sake of our party we must stand united, whoever our nominee is."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Steelfish

GO NEWT!!


11 posted on 03/18/2012 9:20:17 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Gene Eric
the Liberals and RINOs (Washington DC Establishment) have shown whom they really fear..
and it NOT Santorum or Romney.....Its NEWT, They Fear.GO! NEWT! GO!

12 posted on 03/18/2012 9:20:27 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Simple: Kill the terrorists, Protect (all) the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
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To: Steelfish
Romney should drop out. The base will NOT tolerate a RINO.

13 posted on 03/18/2012 9:26:13 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Steelfish

Bad English in #1 and other posts is rather unpersuasive.

GO NEWT!


14 posted on 03/18/2012 9:26:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: American Constitutionalist

What is “get’s”?


15 posted on 03/18/2012 9:27:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: American Constitutionalist

>> in their selfish ambition of supporting Newt

Selfish?

The recurring theme of moral elitism that plagues Santorum’s campaign will not win the White House.


16 posted on 03/18/2012 9:37:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Steelfish

I disagree with the idea that Newt should drop out. As long as both Newt and Rick stay in, then Romney gets less votes and we are more likely to have a brokered convention.


17 posted on 03/18/2012 9:43:51 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Revolting cat!

Okay, how about an ACTUAL EXAMPLE of how Newt’s appearance in the race HELPS Romney.

Let’s look at Arkansas.

Not counting the Superdelegates, Arkansas has 33 delegates available. 3 delegates for each of the 4 Congressional Districts are allocated to the winner of that CD. Of the 21 Statewide at-large delegates, everybody who gets over 15% gets at least one delegate, but if someone gets over 50%, they win all 20 delegates.

In a 2 man race between Santorum and Romney, Santorum would easily win 32 of the 33 delegates for 32-1 split.

However, if Newt stays in the race, it’s highly unlikely that Santorum would top 50%. In a 3-man race one of two scenarios happens:

(1) Newt finishes 2nd each of the 4 CD’s. If that’s the case, it would be an 8-4 split between Santorum and Gingrich. However, the statewide vote would be something along the lines of Santorum 40%, Gingrich 30%, and Romney 30%. In this scenario, of the 21 statewide delegates, Santorum would get 8, Gingrich 7, and Romney 6. So while Gingrich gets delegates, Romney gets 5 more than if the race was just between he and Santorum.

(2) Worse yet is if Newt stays in and keeps Santorum under 50%, but is unable to finish at least 2nd in each of the 4 CD’s. If this happens, then Romney can pick up to an additional 4 delegates by finishing 2nd in the 4 CD’s.

This is just one example, but can be repeated across the sates (KY, WV, NC, etc) that Romney would normally not do as well in. If this happens, he’ll get to 1,144 before the convention.


18 posted on 03/18/2012 9:43:58 PM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: Steelfish
“This is now close to sabotage.”

Yep its sabotaging the GOPe’s plan to shove Romney down the conservatives throats..

19 posted on 03/18/2012 9:53:09 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: ZULU; All
He will be remembered as the spoiler who gave Romney the nomination.

Please. Santorum's the incompetent buffoon who spoiled the race and is nigh on handing it to Romney. Some might say it was deliberate. What the heck was he doing down in PR when he should be pounding pavement in IL where he actually has a chance to beat Romney? Is Santorum just playing sham politics?
20 posted on 03/18/2012 9:56:31 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

The Times Herald is written in Coweta County. 54% of Republican primary voters in Coweta County voted for Gingrich.

That is precisely why Newt should run for Governor of Georgia. He thought that people would get behind him without a state wide election, but the problem is he didn’t think he had to run in 50 states. He thought 2 or 3 states would have given him the nomination. I don’t think he understands the process. As Governor of Georgia I think that would be perfect for him and he would most likely win.


21 posted on 03/18/2012 10:23:54 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

Santorum 11 states he won
Newt 2 states he won

Bottom line is results in the General. You do know that you need to win more than 2 states in the General right. Newt should run for Governor of Georgia. He might just win there. After he gets a statewide election under his belt, he might understand that in order to run for President you have to run in all 50 states.


22 posted on 03/18/2012 10:27:12 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Steelfish

Only hope for any reality is a brokered convention..

Zerodamus has not even started to seriously campaign yet..


23 posted on 03/18/2012 10:50:32 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Steelfish

Problem is that Rubio won’t get the VP... He is not well liked by the GOP-e. Susana Martinez is.


24 posted on 03/18/2012 10:56:02 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: Steelfish
Maybe this has a potential to spreading hate for Newt Gingrich..
.. By the way, Santos has been the spoiler since Florida... Go, Newt. Stay in the race. One never knows what could happen. Prayers for Newt.
25 posted on 03/18/2012 11:00:35 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Christie at the beach; parksstp

“One never knows what could happen”

Yes we do. We saw Newt siphon off 7% of the vote in MI where Romney sneaked in by 3% and of course everyone and their grandmother knows that Romney’s less than 1% win in OH would have been a devastating loss if Newt weren’t on the ballot. He is now becoming an official spoiler as editorial and political commentators from the right and across the spectrum have made clear.


26 posted on 03/18/2012 11:05:46 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Gene Eric

What, as in, insisting on standards?


27 posted on 03/18/2012 11:15:45 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Steelfish
Santos has been the spoiler first so, he wins that honor.
28 posted on 03/18/2012 11:23:54 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: taxcontrol; All
I'm not so sure about that. Surely that argument assumes that if either dropped out Mitt would pick up some of their votes, but my understanding (admittedly mostly picked up on these boards) is that is highly doubtful.

I know there are some folk on these boards who are strong Gingrich supporters, but if Newt did drop out, I think almost all of them would vote for Santorum over Mitt Romney (unless they chose not to vote at all). Conversely, there are some very strong Santorum supporters on these boards, and again I think that if he was to drop out almost all of them would vote for Newt over Romney. Therefore I think it is quite clear that Santorum and Gingrich are splitting an anti-Rommey vote. Consequently, for there to be any chance that Romney can be stopped, one of them is definitely going to have to drop out soon. Which one? I don't really know. Gingrich is the more experienced politician and has the better political mind, but Santorum seems to have the momentum at the moment.

29 posted on 03/18/2012 11:36:54 PM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Steelfish

You do realize that the National Review, Weekly Standard, American Spectator, etal are all a part of the “Establishment” don’t you? I’m guessing you are too.


30 posted on 03/18/2012 11:44:37 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: Steelfish
As if Santorum is somone to get excited about (yawn...)

Truth is, we get to vote for dumb, dumber or dumbest this year.

31 posted on 03/19/2012 12:03:00 AM PDT by FightforFreedomCA (Newt, Ricky, or Mitt - I will be voting on November 6th to evict the current pResident.)
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To: ZULU

Idiots voting for Romney are the ones giving Romney the nomination.

If Newt dropped out, the majority of those currently voting for him would vote for Romney instead.


32 posted on 03/19/2012 1:22:57 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: taxcontrol

Agreed.


33 posted on 03/19/2012 1:24:43 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Steelfish
Those that support Newt's claim that his staying in the race helps Santorum by taking away Mitt's votes/delegates, ask him if it's such a brilliant idea, why did he tell Santorum to Drop Out after South Carolina?

"Go, Newt" is right. "Please Go, Newt."

34 posted on 03/19/2012 3:09:18 AM PDT by taraytarah
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To: ZULU

Given that Santorum is the alternative, it becomes a virtue that Gingrich gives the nomination to Romney. Santorum sucks.

Gingrich is the only good choice among those running. Romney would be better than Santorum.


35 posted on 03/19/2012 3:23:11 AM PDT by Lucas McCain (Santorum sucks)
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To: Steelfish

So you are saying Newt is the Perot of this primary?

Cause I kinda agree.


36 posted on 03/19/2012 4:02:39 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Gene Eric

Indeed! The whole banning porn thing is a distraction and not what the country cares about right now. We can philosophically discuss the moral decay of society in America and yada yada yada and I agree with the destruction that porn causes... but it’s not going to win the presidency. Matter of fact, it seems so far out of left field with the Iran/Middle East situation and the economy, it just brings about a WTF? moment for most people.

Guys, I am for bringing conservatism back to the WH, but by God you have to remember we have a WHOLE NATION that is voting. And even with that said, I have no idea who I want on the ballot. I don’t like any of them for various reasons.

BAH!


37 posted on 03/19/2012 4:07:48 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: napscoordinator

In my opinion, I think all Newt thought he would have to do is come out and say “I am Newt and I am running for President” and it would be a cinch.

I feel like his ego didn’t prepare him that he would actually have to campaign as he has been so used to being the “SUPAHSTAR” for so long, that it would just happen.


38 posted on 03/19/2012 4:10:38 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Steelfish

If anyone still needs proof that Rick Santorum is a Big Gov’t Republican, here it is: http://bit.ly/zUJGwi #CaseClosed


39 posted on 03/19/2012 6:25:01 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("We intend to change Washington, not accomodate it." - Newt Gingrich)
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To: Fred

Were Gingrich ahead in the delegate count, I would have said the same about Santorum.

Stating Santorum is a “stalking horse” for Romney when he is making him spend millions Romney would rather spend in a general election is absurd.


40 posted on 03/19/2012 6:26:48 AM PDT by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

If he ignored PR, it would have been taken as a slight to Puerto Rican voters on the mainland.

He’s far from a buffoon. AND, to be analytical about this, a Ginrich/Obama fight would be a repeat of the McCain/Obama fight. A tired old man against a youthful jerk - but a jerk who looks like he just stepped out of Gentleman’s Quarterly. Bad combination for us.

But if Gingirch was leading in delegate counts, I would have urged Santorum to step down. The important thing is to stop a RINO from getting nominated.


41 posted on 03/19/2012 6:31:14 AM PDT by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: DNA.2012

I find that hard to believe. I think Gingrich and Santorum are far closer to a conservative ideal than Romney EVER will be.


42 posted on 03/19/2012 6:33:50 AM PDT by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Lucas McCain

“Santorum sucks.”

If that is a sample of the rhetoric employed by Gingrich supporters - and I certainly don’t believe that to be the case, it speaks poorly of Gingrich.

But I think it more closely represents just a few of Gingrich’s supporters.

Anyone who thinks Romney is preferable to Santorum needs a serious reality check unless they too are a RINO.


43 posted on 03/19/2012 6:36:09 AM PDT by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Steelfish
Newt staying in makes a brokered convention more likely.

That's what frightens the GOPe.

A brokered convention means they have lost control of the situation to the Tea Party.

44 posted on 03/19/2012 6:40:12 AM PDT by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Steelfish

National Review and Weekly Standard couldn’t smear Newt out of the race so now they are trying to hound him out. Thats not working either. Go Newt! All the way to Tampa.


45 posted on 03/19/2012 6:40:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: parksstp
You seem to misunderstand meaning of the word "ACTUAL."

Arkansas votes in two months. There is no "actual" because it hasn't happened. It's not reality. It's all phony baloney.

Romney has more delegates than all opposition combined. A Newt exit will not benefit Santorum nearly as much his supporters wish with polling on the issue across many states showing 40-50% would go to Romney.

The practical time for a non-Romney to win outright as passed; the best time for that was before FL yet Santorum refused to exit the race. We know from the Santorum campaign memo a few weeks back they recognize the math.

Newt's strategy is clearly more tag-team now, one of trying to take as many delegates from Romney as possible, with a chance of denying him the nomination, and shape the dialog of the race which he's done to good effect.

46 posted on 03/19/2012 9:47:32 AM PDT by newzjunkey (RINO Santorum: for Sotomayer, for Big Labor, for Budget-Busting, for Big Rail, for the Nannystate.)
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To: ZULU

“Anyone who thinks Romney is preferable to Santorum needs a serious reality check unless they too are a RINO.”

Hogwash. I just love it when people throw the RINO bomb at anyone with whom they disagree. I have no interest in proving to you how conservative I am. But I know this: Wittle Wicky Santorum is another bozo who never ran so much as a lemonade stand, and who will have his ass handed to him by the Obama campaign—should he get the nomination. The only candidate on either side that’s worth more than a bucket of warm spit is Gingrich. But, again, Romney would be better than Santorum.


47 posted on 03/19/2012 1:55:44 PM PDT by Lucas McCain (Santorum sucks)
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