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Ann Coulter Tweets: Please ‘Explain What Was Allegedly Offensive About DeNiro’s Joke’
Mediaite ^ | March 20, 2012 | Laura Donovan

Posted on 03/21/2012 9:58:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not unusual for conservative commentator Ann Coulter to tell women to stop playing the victim (and in some cases, rightfully so), but it was somewhat surprising to see the New York Times bestselling author defend “The Godfather II” star Robert DeNiro’s joke that the United States is not ready for another white first lady.

“Can we please stop the fake ‘offended’ routine? Pls explain what was allegedly offensive about DeNiro’s joke,” Coulter tweeted Tuesday in the wake of Internet outrage over DeNiro’s wisecrack.

Coulter followed up with a retweet that provides us with a little more clarity: “It’s always a bad idea to imitate liberals. RT @TPCarney It’s just conservatives trying to get offended [like] liberals always get.”

DeNiro came under fire Tuesday when news outlets revealed that he’d said at a recent New York fundraising event that it’s “too soon” for the U.S. to have another white FLOTUS:

“Callista Gingrich. Karen Santorum. Ann Romney. Now do you really think our country is ready for a white first lady?”

Though the Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich campaign did not respond to my request for comment, Gingrich unloaded his beef with DeNiro’s statement later on in the day:

“What De Niro said last night was inexcusable and the president should apologize for him. It was at an Obama fundraiser, it is exactly wrong, it divides the country.”

Michelle Obama wasn’t too pleased with DeNiro’s comment either, as her press secretary’s response was, “We believe the joke was inappropriate.”

So the real question is, whose side are you on: Team Potential First Ladies or Team DeNiro?


TOPICS: Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; michelleobama; newt; obama
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1 posted on 03/21/2012 9:59:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yup i could care less if she has a cheeseburger anymore


2 posted on 03/21/2012 10:01:46 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

3 posted on 03/21/2012 10:02:41 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with Ann.. It was a joke. A kind of a funny one as well.


4 posted on 03/21/2012 10:02:51 AM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not a fan of the “offended” category. In fact, one of the very few things I disagreed with Sarah Palin about in the last two years was her attack on the use of the word “retarded”.

I think we should figure out what people actually MEAN by what they say, and be offended by that, not by mere words.

Anyway, Michelle Obama was offended. I think that should make conservatives think twice about whether we should be offended.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 10:02:56 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: al baby

If I saw her eating a cheeseburger, I’d knock it out of her hand...


6 posted on 03/21/2012 10:03:42 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: All

No, we won’t get over “pretending to be offended” until the Left does.
Use their own weapons against them.


7 posted on 03/21/2012 10:06:13 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve never cared what DeNiro says, and now I don’t care what Ann Coulter says, either.


8 posted on 03/21/2012 10:06:13 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why is De Niro interjecting race as an issue in this campaign? That is the question we should be (publicly) asking.

But I see Ann's point - if you want to find reasons to be perpetually offended, become a Democrat. They have much more practice at it!

9 posted on 03/21/2012 10:09:31 AM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: Hildy

I couldn’t care less about Deniro’s comments, but I love it when lefties get hoisted on their own petard, with the same language they use against conservatives.

I guess that makes me a partisan


10 posted on 03/21/2012 10:09:59 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think it was offensive. But I did see it as useful to try and make it offensive, so Liberals could draw away the attention from the contraceptive issue.


11 posted on 03/21/2012 10:10:20 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
His premise was, he named 3 wives of political candidates, then immaturely implied- with no evidence, just soft slander- that not only are they unfit to be first ladies, but their entire race is unfit for it.

I think you have to have an agenda, or be dumb as a rock to not see this. Coulter can go to hell.

12 posted on 03/21/2012 10:11:12 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
DiNero made a funny - an insightful and ambiguous funny. If Mrs. Great Leader wants to be all butt-hurt about it, that's her freaking problem. She's the one who needs to pull her boob belt out of the wringer, not DiNero.

I think America is absolutely ready for a white first lady - implication being Mr. & Mrs. Great Leader have worn out their welcome. This offense is proof of how far we've drifted. Perhaphs there needs to be an oversight council funded at the federal level whose job it is to pre-screen all verbalizations? In a way this might be a good thing. When the White House scares Hollywood we might see a lessening of the worship towards all things Obama coming from Hollywood.
13 posted on 03/21/2012 10:11:45 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Picture Jeff Foxworthy, in 2008, campaigning for John McCain and saying: "Is America ready for a black man in the White House? I don't think so!"

1) Foxworthy would never make such a "joke".
2) McCain (weak, spineless McCain) would have immediately disavowed the statement.
3) The media would have imploded with outrage.

DeNiro? "Is America ready for a white first lady?"
[shrug] He's just making a joke, right?

When we accept the double standard, we tell the world that we have no intention of fighting for what we believe in.

14 posted on 03/21/2012 10:11:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What is offensive is that it only matters who says it, if a liberal says it, then all is ok, if conservative says it, there is hell to pay, the conservative will be totally assaulted and marginalized (as per Alinsky rules).
15 posted on 03/21/2012 10:13:48 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a better question for Ann. How does embarrassing a gay dude add up to potentially 10 years in prison? Or just ask that Indian kid in New Jersey.


16 posted on 03/21/2012 10:14:42 AM PDT by kreitzer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DeNiro has had ‘ASS’ written all over him for a long time!


17 posted on 03/21/2012 10:17:26 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Hildy
Whether or not it was a joke, whether or not it was funny, it was an attempt to marginalize whites. Wake up.

18 posted on 03/21/2012 10:18:04 AM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: Hildy

Replace “white” with “black” and ask again. I find it offensive in either case. The joke was meant to be offensive, otherwise it wouldn’t have been said.


19 posted on 03/21/2012 10:19:24 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s left of Ann to tell any ‘conservative’ how to think? It’s like...taking advice from Bill Maher on how to behave.


20 posted on 03/21/2012 10:20:57 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For Ann, anything Newt objects to MUST be all right.

I read that her book sales are down. I wonder if Romney threw some cash her way.


21 posted on 03/21/2012 10:21:03 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is really easy -

what if senior had said, the white house is not ready for 4 more years with a black man in it.


22 posted on 03/21/2012 10:21:53 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: I see my hands

Exactly.


23 posted on 03/21/2012 10:22:23 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Hildy

What did you find funny about it? Please explain in detail because I don’t get it.


24 posted on 03/21/2012 10:24:49 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ann dated Bill Maher. Nuff said. Deniro, nuff said. Photobucket
25 posted on 03/21/2012 10:26:47 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ann doesn't get it. It's not about being truly offended, it's about winning the culture/media war. Newt out-Alinsky'ed the Alinskyites. Alinsky Rule No. 4 is "Make your enemy live up to their own rule book." Newt is doing that, and brilliantly. Ann sometimes misses the obvious.


26 posted on 03/21/2012 10:28:22 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s absolutely right. It was a joke, not offensive in any way, and it made me chuckle slightly.


27 posted on 03/21/2012 10:28:26 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Kirkwood

I grew up in Southern California. I was told by more than one person that if you see something on a TV or movie screen, it wasn’t accidental.


28 posted on 03/21/2012 10:30:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is one of the fundamental issues for our side (not the joke or Ann of course). The fact is, the left is probably not genuinely offended when they claim to be shocked by offensive language. In fact, most of the time it probably is twisted and misperceived and only goes to further cement their preconceived cliche notion.

Those on the right who try to point by point the left fail because the fact is, the left is full of crap. When the left is offended by someone calling a woman a slut it is not because they give two craps about women or that there is no such thing as a slut or anything else. They just want to shut someone [Limbaugh] up. They want to instill a kneejerk reaction on the part of tuned out women to simply associate republican with mysogyny (same thing with racism).

The deNiro quote isn't offensive. The underlying message of racial division is ugly and works against everything the left claims to be for. An intellectual discussion about the racism of leftist cliche may be warranted but anyone who says they are offended, is either really weird, or more likely lying.

This is another reason why Hannity will never be as popular as Rush because Sean tries to point-by-point the leftists and quite frankly it just gets shrill. Rush uses absurdity to illustrate the absurd which is more often than not, quite entertaining.

29 posted on 03/21/2012 10:32:55 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Hildy

Hi Hildy,
Looks like you and I are alone here. Let’s go on record as saying that the joke wasn’t intended to demean white people in any way. What was funny about it (only slightly funny, IMO) was the use of irony. As Wiki puts it, “...a sharp incongruity or discordance that goes beyond the simple and evident intention of words...”

Kind of a shame to have to explain this.


30 posted on 03/21/2012 10:33:00 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: sand lake bar

Would you “chuckle” if Rush Limbaugh, Rick Santorum or Sean Hannity had said something similar about a black first lady? Better yet, do you think that the press, academia, nutroots, DNC, Hollywood and Media Matters would be chuckling? Or do you think they’d be going for the jugular? See? This is why we lose 97 out of 100 fights.


31 posted on 03/21/2012 10:36:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The problem is the double standard. Politically correct has come to mean and thing a conservative says is evil and the same type of comment from a liberal is just ignored.


32 posted on 03/21/2012 10:38:59 AM PDT by CAconservitive
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To: sand lake bar

This whole “joke” thing was an opportunity to beat the Left over the head with their own club.

Kind of a shame to have to explain this.


33 posted on 03/21/2012 10:39:46 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, I’d chuckle, maybe even laugh. DeNiro’s joke was quite mild, highly reminiscent of 60s topical humor. No need for conservatives to have the same kind of thin skin as liberals.


34 posted on 03/21/2012 10:39:52 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But the other thing, 2DV, is that if it was about a black first lady, it wouldn’t be ironic or funny at all! Rush, Hannity, etc., need a different gag entirely.


35 posted on 03/21/2012 10:42:00 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: fr_freak

No, you need a better club. This is more like a feather. Get it?


36 posted on 03/21/2012 10:42:51 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought it was not in the least bit funny.

Funny would be saying, “Is this country ready for another REPUBLICAN First Lady”—then, hah-hahs all around. After all, he mentioned the wives of the GOP candidates.

But DeNiro went further and injected race into it, specifically saying “ is the country ready for another WHITE First Lady?

Race has nothing to do with the event or the theme of the joke.
But DeNiro made it so.

If the race polarities were reversed I cannot even imagine the setting that this would ever be uttered.

I was offended because it is a racial joke, against white people. And I’m doubly offended because I am Italian like DeNiro, who should know better.

The only thing worse would be if Chris Rock said it.

Ann has already jumped ten sharks. Ann, we hardly knew ye.


37 posted on 03/21/2012 10:43:07 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: sand lake bar
No, you need a better club. This is more like a feather. Get it?

A good boxer doesn't try to make every shot a knockout shot. He wears down the opponent, and sets him up for the knockout. Do you get that?
38 posted on 03/21/2012 10:48:13 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

I hear you. I just don’t agree with you. To make every single little tiny thing into some sort of battle just makes one look silly.


39 posted on 03/21/2012 10:50:18 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I found DeNiro’s attempt at humor neither funny or insightful. Not offensive either unless you are in the business of politically correct posturing as liberals are. The word “cheesy” comes to mind.


40 posted on 03/21/2012 10:59:14 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: sand lake bar; fr_freak

“To make every single little tiny thing into some sort of battle just makes one look silly.”

Failure to do so when that’s exactly what your relentless opponents do makes one a loser.


41 posted on 03/21/2012 11:01:38 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Your analogy sucks.


42 posted on 03/21/2012 11:10:00 AM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: Magic Fingers

Look. It’s one thing to justly respond when a left wing jerk makes foul, abusive, unwarranted comments about conservative individuals. It’s quite another to make a big hairy deal over comments a la Tom Leher or Mark Russell.

The losers are those who look petty and humorless.


43 posted on 03/21/2012 11:13:00 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A joke based on skin color is a racist joke. This was reverse racism pointed at crackers and honkies... this is not rocket science.

LLS


44 posted on 03/21/2012 11:59:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: sand lake bar
To make every single little tiny thing into some sort of battle just makes one look silly.

And we hate it when lefties do that, right? Which they do all the time with great success. So, we do it right back to them, using their own methods and language, until they get to the point where they start saying, publicly, "It is so stupid to get so offended over every little thing." Then BOOM, they've just cut themselves off at the knees and removed one of their most effective tactics for silencing and shaming the Right. Get it now?
45 posted on 03/21/2012 1:23:19 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: I see my hands

You’re kidding, right? It was a joke from a white actor. STOP FINDING CRAP WHERE NONE EXISTS. We have enough problems than obsessing over a comment from an actor, for God’s sake.


46 posted on 03/21/2012 1:55:19 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ann thinks Mitt's ready for another white wife. Is that offensive?
47 posted on 03/21/2012 2:02:00 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: sand lake bar; LibLieSlayer

“The losers are those who look petty and humorless.”

See #44. I don’t find racist humor funny.


48 posted on 03/21/2012 2:39:21 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Sloth
Your analogy sucks.

Hmmmmmmm. That might be true. But your explanation for why my analogy "sucks" is ... lacking.

49 posted on 03/21/2012 2:44:05 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: Magic Fingers

This was not racist humor (although I do enjoy an occasional racial or ethnic joke).


50 posted on 03/21/2012 5:33:09 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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