Skip to comments.More Obama Regulations….This Time Attacking American Farmers
Posted on 03/22/2012 9:14:07 AM PDT by Starman417
If the federal government can regulate the relationship
between parents and their children on their own familys
farm there is virtually nothing off limits
- Senator Jerry Moran
Just when I thought Obama's big government couldn't get more intrusive we have this: (h/t Gateway Pundit and Allen Wall)
The U.S. Department of Labor is proposing revisions to child labor regulations that will strengthen the safety requirements for young workers employed in agriculture and related fields. The agricultural hazardous occupations orders under the Fair Labor Standards Act that bar young workers from certain tasks have not been updated since they were promulgated in 1970.
The department is proposing updates based on the enforcement experiences of its Wage and Hour Division, recommendations made by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, and a commitment to bring parity between the rules for young workers employed in agricultural jobs and the more stringent rules that apply to those employed in nonagricultural workplaces. The proposed regulations would not apply to children working on farms owned by their parents.
"Children employed in agriculture are some of the most vulnerable workers in America," said Secretary of Labor Hilda L. Solis. "Ensuring their welfare is a priority of the department, and this proposal is another element of our comprehensive approach."
The proposal would strengthen current child labor regulations prohibiting agricultural work with animals and in pesticide handling, timber operations, manure pits and storage bins. It would prohibit farmworkers under age 16 from participating in the cultivation, harvesting and curing of tobacco. And it would prohibit youth in both agricultural and nonagricultural employment from using electronic, including communication, devices while operating power-driven equipment.
The department also is proposing to create a new nonagricultural hazardous occupations order that would prevent children under 18 from being employed in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials. Prohibited places of employment would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.
Additionally, the proposal would prohibit farmworkers under 16 from operating almost all power-driven equipment. A similar prohibition has existed as part of the nonagricultural child labor provisions for more than 50 years. A limited exemption would permit some student learners to operate certain farm implements and tractors, when equipped with proper rollover protection structures and seat belts, under specified conditions.
The proposed rules only affect "hired farm workers," not those working on farms owned by their parents.
So that should make us all breath a sigh of relief for the American farm family right?
This just shows how much the Obamacrats are out of touch with Americas farm belt. In multi-generational farm families, you often have several siblings or other relatives living in close proximity. Parts of the operation may be owned by several family members. Some of the land may be rented. Some family farms are technically considered limited liability corporations or other such arrangements. It can get complicated.
Johnny might work on his dads farm, but he might also go right next door to his uncles property to work for him a few hours in the afternoon. These rule changes would make that traditional practice much more difficult.
Under these rules, kids wouldnt get to drive (or sometimes even ride!) tractors. Typically, farm youngsters drive tractors from an early age. I did. My 14-year old nephew, an experienced tractor driver, tells me he started driving a tractor at about age 7 and was driving in the field by 9 or 10.
Not only do the new regulations prohibit the kids driving tractors, except under certain conditions, they cant even ride the tractors!
Farm kids would also be restricted from working with livestock.
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...
To read later.
If you teach kids in their formative years that they aren't allowed to work, is it any surprise when they reach working age that they don't think they should have to?
It says (in the 2nd paragraph): “The proposed regulations would not apply to children working on farms owned by their parents.”
So I am not sure what the big alarm is and what this has to do with the quote under the photo which talks about regulating the relationship between parents and their children on their own familys farm.
Its really an assault on food production. There will be disastrous consequences from this.
Scarce farm labor will already be made even more scarce. Who will it benefit? Illegals? Unions? Will they benefit at all? Food production will be hurt BIG TIME by this, and I can’t believe the apparatchiks in DC don’t already know this.
I used to read about the Ag. policies of the Soviet Union and China and naively think, how could they be so stupid? I realized only much later that their policies werent about new ways of production or efficiency - they were all about control and politics.
Obama is no different.
Energy production, farming, and manufacturing are as necessary to a nation as air, water, and food are for the body.
They’re being gang raped by every federal agency that can find a reason.
I don’t think the vast majority of American farmers even care what Hilda Soliz has to say about the way they operate their businesses. Whether it be family or private.
What about a kid who wants to run a COMBINE on a neighboring farm when s/he is 16? What about a kid who wants to cut neighbors lawns?
And, furthermore, Go read the article...
Government loves and cares more for our children than us parents do.
I ponder any time I hear "we are a free country" these days.
Read at around paragraph 8:
“In multi-generational farm families, you often have several siblings or other relatives living in close proximity. Parts of the operation may be owned by several family members.”
So, brothers, sisters, uncles, cousins, aunts, in-laws, and grandparents would be subject to the new regulations.
That could definitely hamper operations on a “family” farm.
I’m in the middle of $7000 and acre corn belt midwest and
this is pissing people off big time. It’s one of the main
topics of local radio. Nothing unusual to see a petite blond
high school girl who isn’t old enough to get a drivers
license driving a monster 8 wheel tractor down the road.
What about 4-H Club livestock projects.
These people are certifiably insane. If more kids grew up on a farm they would learn how to work and wouldn’t be looking for hand outs. I was driving a tractor as soon as my feet and legs could work the pedals
Makes me want to scream!
I was working in dark leaf tobacco when I was in my early teens (early 60’s) on farms not owned by my parents. We used to get off a couple of weeks from the start of school, as I remember, to harvest the tobacco (backbreaking work). Not much pay, basically a few bucks, lunch, and plenty of water to drink. We got a new pair of coveralls every year at Christmas. By the end of the harvest they would stand up on their own because of the tar. Thats why I never smoked.
My 4-H project consisted of raising 200-400 chickens each year. Ran it like a business. Sold a lot of pullits and eggs to local families.
Say good bye to 4-H and FFA.
My 15 year old granddaughter is better with a Bobcat and
tractor than most men 20-70, I’d be willing to bet.
Every profitable family farm is a family corporation.
Gee Whiz...I was 13 years old and was able to make 5 Cents a quart picking strawberries on an area farm. This was in the 50’s. I was pleased to have the spending money.
I can’t believe where this country is going. I was raised in an average middle class home. We weren’t needy. But I wanted to make some money on my own. No one made me do it. Today....I would not be allowed to do this. What kind of nation is this?
And NOW, 0pansy is beating me into the mud with his crap. I have worked my butt off and 0pansy is hell bent on........
This should be fun to watch...sorta like the revenooers coming to town. Gonna be impossible to enforce and I don’t know a lot of people who would even try to enforce it. When the cows need milked I guess there will be an agent there checking for Birth Certificates. I guess they could get around it by telling the govt they were just going into the barn for a campaign speech and not to actually milk the cow.
For those who don’t think you need equipment to milk a cow try mucking out the barn when your done without a Bobcat. See you round midnight.
You know...this is not just an attack on American farmers...this is an attack on socio cultural values where a kid could earn extra money not ‘handed’ to him/her. There is more behind this type of regulation than meets the eye.
A lot of young boys around here spend their summers working on farms to earn extra money.Many start at 13 or 14 throwing hay or helping drive equipment during harvest.These are not family cars they work on but farms that know many of these kids otherwise won’t have a lot of money for school clothing or for extras like having cash for insurance so they can have a car.Things their families just can’t afford to provide.This will hurt many of those kids.
Jimmy! Feed the dog!
Sorry, Mom... Under Federal regulations, I am not permitted to work with the livestock. You’ll have to do it yourself.
Oh, and cleaning up after Fido... That is definitely against the rules!
Back when I was a kid, you could drive anything without a license plate on the roads from 12-years-old and up. The one rule was that you had to be going from one farm to another.
You can bet we kids knew the name of every farm in the area, so no matter where we were, we could say we were between this one and that one.
Growing up in a small rural town,(I was a town kid) I made a lot of money working for various farmers(Mers). In the spring, I’d be picking rock and in the summer and in the fall bailing hay, with some milking and other barn related chores mixed in.
Under these rules that would no longer be an option.
I DID read the article, goodwins, did you? I merely pointed out that it does our side no good to exaggerate and get our facts wrong. I pointed out that the huge quote under the photo said: If the federal government can regulate the relationship between parents and their children on their own familys farm there is virtually nothing off limits. Then I asked what this had to do with not allowing kids to work on their own family farm. Senator Jerry Moran would do better to point to the real threat of this legislation rather than pointing to something that has nothing to do with it.
CharlesThe Hammer, you are right that many farms are owned by aunts, uncles, etc (family)...... if they are smart, they will not officially “hire” the kids, they will allow them to work, then give them “gifts”. Meanwhile, if we want to stop this non-sense legislation, let’s hammer the real issue!
It’s all about control. The more government can control, ie our food sources, the more of a strangle-hold government will have on us. Our healthcare, our food, our jobs....our very survival will ALL be up to Big Government leftists.
At least, that’s their plan. Romney’s got another plan for their @ss....lol.