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Classic Ed Schultz Idiocy: 'So What' if Trayvon Martin Broke George Zimmerman's Nose?
NewsBusters ^ | March 28, 2012 | Jack Coleman

Posted on 03/28/2012 8:08:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Exhibit A on why liberals seldom go into police work -- Ed Schultz's chat with a like-minded caller to his radio show yesterday about the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

To the caller, it was "cut and dry" that Zimmerman murdered Martin during their confrontation in Sanford, Fla., last month. (audio)

CALLER: Hey, what is it about the right that just can't be wrong about something? This whole Trayvon Martin deal is just driving me nuts. It's cut and dry. The guy brought a gun to the fight. The kid was just walking home. You know, a scuffle ensues because this guy pursued him and he shoots the kid. That's, that's murder ...

SCHULTZ: Well, well, here, here, here's the thing. So what if Trayvon Martin hit him?

CALLER: That's exactly. So what if ...

SCHULTZ: So what if he, uh, broke his nose?

CALLER: I, I agree.

In fairness to Schultz, he does have a point. It is, after all, universally known that if a person has been punched, his nose broken, the assailant then slamming his head repeatedly on pavement, the assault will definitely end right there and go no further. Every person in this situation can be certain of that -- not to worry, the worst is over, just ride it out and wait for your assailant to tire himself out. Only a matter of time, no doubt about that, and your survival is all but ensured. The last thing a victim should do is allow the situation to escalate into violence.

Let me see if I have this straight -- Rush Limbaugh verbally assails a foot-stomping perpetual student who demands her Jesuit law school give her free contraception, and it's a crime against humanity. Schultz takes Zimmerman at his word, if only momentarily, and says he should have accepted getting physically assailed -- and that it was criminal of Zimmerman to defend himself.

Fortunately for Schultz, Zimmerman isn't a radical Muslim, thus sparing Schultz considerable confusion...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: blackkk; edschultz; florida; georgezimmerman; msnbc; trayvonmartin; zimmerman

1 posted on 03/28/2012 8:09:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, he’s dead, Ed.

That’s what.


2 posted on 03/28/2012 8:11:02 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So what if Mr. Ed shot and killed his own dog by accident?

He's still a doofus.

3 posted on 03/28/2012 8:11:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: chris37

People like Ed are gonna get all of us killed.


4 posted on 03/28/2012 8:18:29 PM PDT by IamCenny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Par-boiled for the course....

Just Ed being Ed


5 posted on 03/28/2012 8:19:54 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s wishing that when Ed Schultz goes home one night in the NEAR future and he gets attacked and punched in his fat liberal nose and knocked down from the blow. While laying there, the assailant starts banging the back of Ed’s head into a nearby sidewalk several times.

Of course, in THIS STORY, poor stoopid Ed wouldn’t be armed and his assailant would probably pump some lead into him because he wouldn’t want to be identified for assault later. If only what goes around really will come around then we wouldn’t have to speak of Ed again.....


6 posted on 03/28/2012 8:20:55 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell you what, Ed baby - how about I give you a concrete facial. Bounce your head off the pavement a few times while I’m at it. Let’s see how you like it.


7 posted on 03/28/2012 8:24:01 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, you squinty eyed tub of lard, is it just a “so what” if I pound the crap out of your face?


8 posted on 03/28/2012 8:24:11 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Paladin2

The other Mr. Ed, who had a TV show a long time ago, was a lot smarter.


9 posted on 03/28/2012 8:25:56 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“SCHULTZ: So what if he, uh, broke his nose?”

Well gee Ed, after bashing a broken nosed head on the pavement, he really should’ve kicked and broke some ribs. Only when he got to heel-face-stomping should any sort of defense be considered.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 8:29:33 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ed, if you attack me and try to kill me, guess what......You will get shot.


11 posted on 03/28/2012 8:29:42 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Sgt. Schultz is the back end of the horse.


12 posted on 03/28/2012 8:33:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rush using some inappropriate words is clearly not a crime against humanity, but something requiring him to apologize, which he did. No need to escalate.

Zimmerman confronting Trayvon was ill advised. But, that doesn’t justify Trayvon attacking the guy, if that is what Trayvon did.

Trayvon punching Zimmerman and breaking his nose was a criminal assault. But, that by itself doesn’t justify the use of deadly force by Zimmerman.

It is not for me to say whether Trayvon’s death was merely a tragic accident, or was a manslaughter, or was a murder. That’s for the law enforcement authorities, including the police on the scene and the grand jury convened by the D.A.

The whole idea of moral outrage, as the left displayed with Rush and is being displayed again with Zimmerman, shows that the left is subject to primitive, tribal thinking, where anger and other emotions overcomes reason.

But, that doesn’t mean that we should fall to their level.


13 posted on 03/28/2012 8:38:28 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So if zimmermann was black and martin was white...


14 posted on 03/28/2012 9:03:40 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee Ed, Let me break your nose and smash your skull into the concrete then you tell me!


15 posted on 03/28/2012 9:08:00 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little girls murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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To: Redmen4ever

With all the invective, inaccuracies and political shadings, this is how I understand it. Zimmerman spotted a stranger in the neighborhood, followed him, called police and was advised that ‘he didn’t have to do that” (follow Trayvon). At that point, I think Zimmerman broke off and was returning to his car when Travon circled back and confronted him. The attack occurred on a sidewalk, where Trayvon was bashing Zimmerman’s had into the concrete. I have to assume this occurred beside Zimmerman’s car.


16 posted on 03/28/2012 9:14:11 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: Redmen4ever

Not just broke his nose, but pounded his skull against the cement. People die like that every day! He didn’t know his 6foot3 assailant was a minor. How could he? And how would that make the situation different?


17 posted on 03/28/2012 9:14:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: IamCenny

The MSNBC Klux Klan Does not care how many innocents get killed over this, all they care about is THE NARRATIVE.

Rile the blacks who are disgusted with Obama up, so they show up to VOTE in November.
That is the ONLY thing this is about.


18 posted on 03/28/2012 9:16:12 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ed Schultz is a slut.


19 posted on 03/28/2012 9:17:04 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Revolting cat!

"I know NUTTINK!!!"

20 posted on 03/28/2012 9:17:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama continued to sponsor Jeremiah Wright after he said "G.D. AMERIKKA!"Where's the outrage?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When democrats collide.

End the DNC’s war on Hispanics and Catholics.


21 posted on 03/28/2012 9:22:27 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We can't allow the horrible death of Trayvon Martin to be used as an excuse to disarm us.)
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To: Redmen4ever

You know, if someone has broken your nose and is repeatedly smashing the back of your head into a concrete sidewalk without any apparent intention of stopping, I would seriously say that your life is in immediate danger. A skull crushed into fragments will do it every time. Imagine that your assailant is between 6’ and 6’ 3” and fit, you are 5’7” and out of shape.


22 posted on 03/28/2012 9:23:27 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: a fool in paradise

never bring a fist to a gunfight,


23 posted on 03/28/2012 9:47:39 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: ArmyTeach

What is being said, however, is that Trayvon threatened to kill Zimmerman and went for Zimmerman’s gun. These elements, in addition to the pummeling, justify Zimmerman firing his weapon in self-defense. Still, if it were possible, Zimmerman should have shot to wound. Under these circumstance’s, Trayvon’s death is a tragic accident. Remove one or two of the elements of self-defense, and we’re talking manslaughter. Remove enough of the elements, and we’re talking murder. The police on the scene that the wasn’t enough elements to arrest Zimmerman on the spot and the District Attorney has empaneled a grand jury to see if there is probable cause. The system is working the way it should.


24 posted on 03/29/2012 4:51:23 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever
Zimmerman confronting Trayvon was ill advised. But, that doesn’t justify Trayvon attacking the guy, if that is what Trayvon did.

Why don't you guys read the police reports. Zimmerman did NOT confront TM, it was the other way around. Zimmerman lost sight of TM and was heading back to his truck, as confirmed by 911 calls, when TM confronted him. It was a case of assault by the kid from start to finish. As for Zimmerman following the kid for a distance he had a perfect right to do so, he did nothing to warrant an attack by TM, except for the Black Male macho code which requires them to get in the face(Up in his grill)of someone they perceive has "dissed" them.

25 posted on 03/29/2012 5:57:50 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Redmen4ever
Still, if it were possible, Zimmerman should have shot to wound.

Shooting to wound is illegal if you are a CCW holder. If you are justified in shooting then you shoot to kill because you fear for your life. Shooting to wound implies you had no fear of your life, therefore you had no right to shoot. Shooting to wound only happens in old 1940s western movies.

26 posted on 03/29/2012 6:01:56 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

From Zimmerman’s lawyer, I think we can say that Zimmerman wishes to God he had only wounded Trayvon.

In the case you describe, when a civilian is dealing with an intruder or with somebody threatening your life or the life of another, you shot to stop. Usually this means you shot at the center of mass or torso. An element of proof that you shot to stop, rather than to kill, is, having stopped the other person, did you continue to shoot into him or did you take any steps such as immediately calling 9-1-1 to bring in medical attention.

You use the word “fear.” Just to be sure, the standard is reasonable belief that your life or the life of another is imperiled. This could be what you mean in your use of the word fear. If you’re reacting emotionally, you’re risking a manslaughter.

Here’s some good advice regarding the use of a concealed weapon:

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/self_defense.html

Again, from what I can tell, the legal authorities have been conducting themselves correctly in this matter.


27 posted on 03/29/2012 6:49:53 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: NoBaloney
Is your lack of an </sarcasm> intentional?

Or did you just sign-up two days ago to stir the pot?

29 posted on 03/29/2012 9:51:43 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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