Skip to comments.Can Obama's Relection be a Good Thing for Conservatives?
Posted on 03/30/2012 2:25:10 PM PDT by Ben Barrack
Conservatives are disheartened. It's becoming increasingly apparent that Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee in the fight to defeat Barack Obama. If four years of Jimmy Carter so awakened Republican voters that they nominated Ronald Reagan, why has nearly four years of Jimmy Carter on steroids so sedated Republican voters that they've decided to nominate the equivalent of Gerald Ford as the best option for defeating him?
In large part, the establishment insists on it and, like Obama, seems disinterested in the will of the people. This establishment is so invested in Romney that it is overlooking the potential consequences of one very real possibility.
What if he loses? The establishment's credibility will have been torpedoed. Yes, at great expense, but torpedoed nonetheless.
If you thought the Tea Party was angry in 2009, just wait until 2013 if Barack Obama is sworn in for a second term after defeating Mitt Romney. For starters, conservative voters will be outraged at any Republican Senator, Congressman or Governor who helped shove Romney down their throats. Accountability could take on an entirely new meaning and those elected leaders will have their feet held to the fire like never before. Romney's name will be added to the long list of liberal Republicans who couldn't seal the deal. Any attempt by establishment elitists to point to Goldwater as evidence that conservatism can't win will be met with sardonic laughter that hopefully drives a stake through the heart of the argument.
Consider the example Fast and Furious, an operation that is not only being revealed as something akin to Watergate with murder but could very likely implicate the heads of nearly every major department and agency in the Obama Administration, to include DHS, DOJ, the FBI, and the State Department. There have been multiple reports that House Speaker John Boehner has asked Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) to back off of his investigation, ostensibly because of how high it could go.
While appearing on the Fox News Channel, Judson Phillips, the founder of Tea Party Nation was visibly frustrated at the lack of interest on the part of Republican Party leadership relative to being more aggressive with Attorney General Eric Holder. Judson went on to say the following:
What my friends in Washington tell me is that Boehner says what he learned from the 1995 government shutdown is you never pick a fight with the president.
If Romney loses to Obama, Boehner will be forced to pick that fight.
If Judson is correct, it points to Boehner being more interested in running out the clock with the November election representing the final whistle than in a dogged pursuit of justice, regardless of where it leads. Avoiding a showdown could conceivably allow Attorney General Eric Holder, FBI Director Robert Mueller, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to skate depending on their respective levels of involvement instead of facing impeachment and removal from office for high crimes and misdemeanors.
Boehner has most certainly come across as disinterested in commenting on the scandal publicly and won't deviate from a short statement of support for what Issa's committee is doing. It would seem that Issa is wrestling with quite the Executive Branch behemoth and could use a greater show of public support from the House Speaker.
If there are any stories the establishment wants to see go away after the election, the ones about Obama's Birth Certificate, Social Security number, and Selective Service registration are at the top of the list. Such concerns are irrelevant, they say. Besides, the election is less than one year away and it's pointless to entertain the notion. The implication is that Joe Arpaio's investigation, even if it yields anything of substance, will be anti-climactic because Obama will be out of office and everyone will have moved on.
That is, unless he wins. Then what? If you thought the Birthers were loud before, just wait and see what happens if Obama is reelected.
Not only will the Birthers who generally don't come across as avid Romney supporters have four more years to continue their incessant drumbeat of demands for answers to their eligibility questions but the establishment that has made every attempt to ignore them will have been roundly defeated and, consequently, forced into a position of having to listen. With the wind knocked out of the establishment, its members will also be barraged with demands that they reconcile with their base (not the other way around) for supporting yet another in a long line of incredibly pathetic candidates. As much as the elites won't want to admit it, the Republican Party agenda could be set by conservative voters who were ignored by an establishment that still doesn't get it.
Tolerance will be in very short supply.
The sad prospect of Romney as the nominee is seemingly trumped only by the prospect that Obama could get a second term, which is made more likely, some believe, if Romney is nominated. Establishment, general election Republican losers like John McCain and Bob Dole have endorsed Romney, as have Governors Chris Christie and Nikki Haley. Tea Party favorites Marco Rubio and Christine O'Donnell have as well. A dangerous type of groupthink seems to have set in among Republican politicians that has generated a bizzare coalescence around a liberal candidate when the time is ripe for a conservative one.
For crying out loud, serial liar Howard Dean said the Democrats fear a face-off with Romney most over all the Republican candidates. Those of us who understand liberal tactics know that Dean means the exact opposite; that's why he said it. It'd be like a head coach proclaiming that his team fears facing his opponent's back up quarterback in an attempt to fool the other coach into starting him. Republican elites aren't as smart, apparently. They've been told by Howard Dean that their third string quaterback gives them their best chance and, by gum, they believe it.
Something else almost certain to happen after Romney's nomination; his religion will be thoroughly vetted by the liberal media. Most Americans know little to nothing about Mormonism but that is all going to change with Romney's nomination. According to a Gallup poll, 22% of Americans are hesitant about voting for a Mormon. Some argue that Mormonism is antithetical to Chrisitianity; some argue that it isn't; still others don't much care. One thing is certain. Everyone will know more about it with Romney as the Republican nominee for president. That, too, should be a good thing no matter what side you're on.
Don't lose heart, conservatives. Instead, check out Romans 8:28, which says:
And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.
In 2013, the Republican elites could find themselves at the intersection of 'be careful what you wish for' and 'sleeping in the bed you made.'
I hope they're preparing for both.
Ben Barrack is a talk show host on KTEM 1400 in Texas benbarrack.com
Look at my last...oh...1000 posts, and you will see a recurrence of..
Boehner & McConnell
blah blah...ad nauseum, ad infinitum
Yeah boy! Love the current GOP : )
Look at my last...oh...1000 posts, and you will see a recurrence of..
Boehner & McConnell
blah blah...ad nauseum, ad infinitum
Yeah boy! Love the current GOP : )
But I repeat myself......: )
NO. NO. NO! The very thought is absurd!
Even given huge Republican majorities in congress, Obama would still be able to block any meaningful tax and budgetary reforms. All done while his adoring press cheerleads for him.
Political matters are cyclical, so it’s wholely plausible that the R’s may have misused the current situation and will be back on the defensive by the 14 and/or 16 elections.
Who dreams up this stuff? Worse yet, who posts it?
.....Looking now at the posters screen name, I see that this post may be a spoof but I have no interest in looking at it further.
My only choices are Romney and Obama
Prepare for bankruptcy!
“...Look at my last...oh...1000 posts, and you will see a recurrence of..”
I just say ***k ‘em all. I’m anti-everything anymore...
Yeah...I’ve got pre-MANstrual cramps today too....
I am off on the ‘Obama lecturing the court’ threads. Will ping ya there.
We beat this other horse to death, then some more.
hey SOL, we might need a tie breaker on who can be the biggest bitter clinger, non statist rino hunter...???
You were right about them soiling their pants.
The thing that makes no sense that I pointed out before was that if they are going to jump on the ‘Romney will save the Country’ bandwagon, then why do they want their guy Newt or RS more recently to beat the crap out of him so Obama has a easy job winning? It's very inconsistent.
“...jump on the Romney will save the Country bandwagon, ...”
You know it’s going to happen. The minute they started the “It’s Romney’s Turn” mantra.
Neither party has the interests of the country at heart. That’s what Judge Napolitano was saying on Fox in his “What If...” speech some months back, and probably why they fired him...(or whatever euphemism they call it now).
**** ‘em all.
You sound like Gilbo now. He refuses to join the TEAM:)
How about that post last night saying that the US now borrows 60% of it's deficit from the Federal Reserve? And notice the crickets from Republicans on that. You know why?
Votes=economy=immediate satisfaction=deficit spending=get mad later.
Ed Schultz had a NOW woman on last night who was saying that Obama will win the election because women care more about getting free birth control than they do about the National Debt or the deficit. The Dem women in the live audience agreed and snickered at a quote from Romney for stating otherwise.
Sort of amazing to watch a country implode by popular demand.
I sure hope these FReepers can shoot straight : )
“...You sound like Gilbo now. He refuses to join the TEAM:)...”
Great minds think alike, brother...
If the GOP had our interests at heart, they would have stood up, as one, at his last State of the Union, and turned their backs on him, publicly, and HELD that posture as long as he was at the podium.
After three years of listening to this maniac, three years of having their agenda rammed down our throats and up our arses, after three years of watching them gloat as they told our side to sit down, shut up, and suck on it, you’d think that anyone with a SHRED of testosterone and testicular fortitude would have stood up, flipped this dictator wannabe the middle finger, and simply turned his back on him as long as his mouth was moving.
That no one did is telling to me. They’re either cowards, complicit, or a bit of both. They either don’t know how to fight back, or worse - don’t WANT to fight back - and are completely willing to give us over to the ideology we have trained our military to destroy for over 85 years.
We beat our heads against the rhetorical wall out here, wondering why “our” side won’t fight back - ESPECIALLY when this douche gives SO much ammunition to use - and the only conclusion I can see anymore is as Judge Napolitano said...they’re on the same side ultimately - THEM versus the rest of us.
I don’t see any other possibility anymore.
“...I sure hope these FReepers can shoot straight : )...”
Shoot straight, hell...at this point, I’m just hoping SOMEBODY shows up at all...
Sometimes, I sorta feel like that lone Chinaman standing in front of the tanks in Tianeman Square...
” After three years of listening to this maniac, three years of having their agenda rammed down our throats and up our arses, after three years of watching them gloat as they told our side to sit down, shut up, and suck on it, youd think that anyone with a SHRED of testosterone and testicular fortitude would have stood up, flipped this dictator wannabe the middle finger, and simply turned his back on him as long as his mouth was moving.
That no one did is telling to me. Theyre either cowards, complicit, or a bit of both. They either dont know how to fight back, or worse - dont WANT to fight back - and are completely willing to give us over to the ideology we have trained our military to destroy for over 85 years.
We beat our heads against the rhetorical wall out here, wondering why our side wont fight back - ESPECIALLY when this douche gives SO much ammunition to use - and the only conclusion I can see anymore is as Judge Napolitano said...theyre on the same side ultimately - THEM versus the rest of us.”
They have become The Ruling Class in D.C. If we don’t clean house, and set term limits, so these a$$holes cannot get entrenched in Washington, we will lose our country anyway.
” Sometimes, I sorta feel like that lone Chinaman standing in front of the tanks in Tianeman Square...”
What a perfect comparison.
Peter Schiff’s rules:
Rule 1 : Republicans in the minority act like Republicans, in the majority they act like Democrats
Rule 2 : Republicans talk like Republicans when running for election, but after they are elected they follow rule 1.
Rule 3 : we are screwed!
No term limits....no country.
Boehner & McConnell aren’t even alive, from what I see.
been there done that since daddy bush...going FRee agent and lettin the [bull] chips fall where they may...
Im sorry...was that mean? Was that Harsh and Insensitive?...
pattacake with reach around types has been such for far too long...they need US, not vicey versey...
Sort of amazing to watch a country implode by popular demand...
those who refuse to study history are doomed...the nature of man has NOT changed since the Beginning...re-inventing the wheel is a mental masturbation that has plagued man every generation, and those who seek power and control simply revert to the tried and true to obtain the fruits of others, with the inevitable collapse EVERY TIME...
US now borrows 60% of it's deficit from the Federal Reserve?...
so long as ive got checks, i aint broke...*IF* i own the bank/press...
this is probably the greatest indicator of the impending financial collapse on the horizon...the crash and then a swift hyperinflation are almost guarenteed when 'money' appears from thin air at that percentage...itll come hard and faster than most will be able to comprehend...
the only conclusion I can see anymore is as Judge Napolitano said...theyre on the same side ultimately - THEM versus the rest of us.
right wing-left wing...both attatched to the tyranny-o-saurus bird of prey...too bad the founders were forgotten when they established a working bird of Pray...
I agree with that, but: Unless you can give me 60 conservative R votes in the Senate, I can't sit out the top of the ticket and risk a Kennedy or Scalia retirement, not to mention Holder.
How could re-election of this maniac, in any form or fashion could be good for anyone? He is a muslim, acting through selfish socialism pandering to this country’s low lifes to keep his rule 4 more years to complete its destruction.
There is no second chance in this. We either defeat him here and now or our country perishs as we know it. There is not one goddam upside to his being re-elected -—— NONE!...
Get with the progam dreamer. Dreaming that there are future counters to 4 more years of this tyrant killer is infantile.
Billy from Beverly Hills Cop? I think you mean Stephen Reinhardt.
I do agree, although it's going to really pain me this November barring a shocker.
If Romney's a Harding, I'll take that. I expect him to be a Clinton myself.
“likes of Judge Reinhold and Mario Cuomo to SCOTUS.
Billy from Beverly Hills Cop? I think you mean Stephen Reinhardt.”
Actually, had Carter won reelection and nominated Judge Reinhold to SCOTUS back in 1982, Reinhold surely would have turned him down so that he could continue to film “Fast Times” with Phoebe Cates . . . .
Yes, Harding got the government entirely out of the railroads, sold off government shipping, and so on. Did a great job.
So you not buying that 'We have to vote for Stalin to beat Hitler' analogy that the other freeper threw at me?
File that with the bucket of bad analogies,
I read lots of history and I hate Stalin, and Mao, and Po Pot. Just because they didnt have 1000+ movies about them like Hitler did doesnt convince me to vote for them.
Kennedy, Scalia, Ginsbug, and Breyer (who will be 74 in August) could all retire after 2016, and Romney, if elected in 2012, might lose in 2016. Or some of them might retire or die before 2017. Romney might appoint "moderates" worse than Kennedy (who voted with the 4 Demons to rule that CO2 is a "pollutant" in 2007). Or he might appoint conservatives, who knows. Expect another Bork episode if any conservative is nominated to replace Ginsburg or Breyer. Even if the GOP could pick up enough senate seats to gain control of the senate judiciary committee, I would guess Dems would filibuster in that case.
One thing that bothers me is the number of pro-global-warming advisors Romney has. Other flip flops on immigration, abortion....
You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can’t be both. Pick one.
I can think of at least one thing that is infinitely worse than the prospect of Obamas reelection:
The abandonment of all principle by conservatives.
We can survive wicked men in office. Weve done it before...But we cant survive an electorate that is utterly without principle. Especially that part of the electorate that should be the moral backbone of the body politic.