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To: Impy; Ben Barrack; cripplecreek; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; LS; BillyBoy; ...
I think your post is thoughtful and balanced. I think you might agree with me that Romney has left us lots of hints that he might do outrageous things (from a conservative point of view).

Well you know there are distinct advantages to losing despite the obvious extreme drawbacks. The Supreme Court is by far the biggest drawback.

Assuming Romney beat Obama in 2012. Then

Case 1: Scalia or Kennedy, or both, retire or die before 2017 (would turn 80 in 2016). I would guess that Romney would appoint people who are not as far left as O's would be, but "moderates" on the SCOTUS could do a lot of damage. The left has plenty of support in the bureaucracies, just waiting for any excuse. It's possible that he would appoint conservatives, but who knows.

Case 2: Scalia and Kennedy survive until 2017. Romney might be a 1-termer, followed by a leftist monster. Or Romney is reelected, and Scalia and Kennedy, age 84 in 2020, could retire and we go back to case 1.

Obama wins reelection:

Case 1: Scalia or Kennedy, or both, retire or die before 2017. I think it's almost certain that Obama appoints a very far left stooge or 2, and the GOP goes through the motions of asking questions, but does not block the nomination.

Case 2: Scalia and Kennedy survive 4 years. Either a GOP candidate (could be Romney) or a Dem will be the new POTUS. Good chance of electing a R in 2016, perhaps better than Romney, but far less likely it would be Coolidge, Eisenhower, or Reagan. We might lose the chance for a GOP POTUS better than Romney to replace conservative justices who left between 2013-2016.

Ginsberg, Breyer, and Thomas could leave the court too. This is an extremely complex probability problem, not a logic problem.

The midterm election is the biggest plus. Obama wiped out Bush fatigue and 2 elections of solid rat gain in 2 short years.

Another plus is not having a GWB "see you at the signing," paving the way for another Obama. If Romney wins, I hope that does not occur, but Romney's past is not very reassuring.

If the court overturns Obamacare that would take a lot of the sting out of it. But if they court upholds it and Obama wins then socialist medicine is here to stay forever and ever.

That ugly possibility worries me too.

So I don’t think it’s worth the risk, God help me I’d take a flyer on a RINO and hope they aren’t as big a disaster as the last RINO. If Romney wins as is as big a RINO as most of us think then we can’t win either way.

As I said, the possibilities are extremely complex. I have not decided whether to vote or not (of course I won't vote for O.), because Romney might be worse than Obama, e. g. he might flip again on amnesty and take the GOP down the way GWB did. My wife has already declared she won't vote for POTUS this time.

112 posted on 04/01/2012 7:58:05 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Man, the whole situation is as ugly as ugly gets.

But this much is clear...if Obama wins, nothing will stop him from destroying America.


113 posted on 04/01/2012 8:02:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3
RE :”Scalia or Kennedy, or both, retire or die before 2017

Scalia will never voluntarily retire while Obama is POTUS. I suspect Kennedy feels similarly.
That means there is little chance that the court will change the next 4 years. I wouldn't make their retirement the basis for my decision.

Suppose Kennedy or Scalia retires in 2017 due to health problems after a Romney POTUS is such a disaster that Dems take the WH and Senate again?

See?? It's not so easy to forcast.

114 posted on 04/01/2012 8:27:20 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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