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Preparation Could Mean Survival
Survival Blog ^ | 3/31/12 | D.S.A.

Posted on 03/31/2012 4:37:13 PM PDT by Kartographer

Some people say you can’t prepare for every situation. I say, you can because every situation has one common element that can and will hurt you outside of the event itself: other people. Lets face it, if you die in a storm, a nuclear/biological/chemical event, or terror attack, then you are dead. There is nothing from stopping God’s will.

You don’t prepare for those events, you prepare for surviving those events. There are many events, (and not far-fetched crazy extreme events) which people should be prepared to deal with to protect themselves and their families when it’s over and you are alive.

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You either prepare and stand on your own beholding to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become there 'serf'. Me I don't want to be beholding to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don't want to have to kiss some 'gubberment' third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don't want some 'jack booted' thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand sit eat or sleep. And last but not least I don't want to be herded in with a bunch of 'zombies' and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.
1 posted on 03/31/2012 4:37:31 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

I’ve been cutting up strips of sod from my yard all spring to enlarge one of my garden spaces. It sure beats mowing that heavy grass over the drainfield.


2 posted on 03/31/2012 4:44:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kartographer
Just today, while out for a walk, I picked up a couple railroad spikes. I put one in my car. In the arm rest/glove box. If I get jacked by thugs in hoodies, at least I'll be able to knock one of them in the chops. I also gave a spike to my 80 year old dad, for his car.

At this time, I still don't want to own a gun.

3 posted on 03/31/2012 4:45:41 PM PDT by BarbM (Portuguese Dog--Kenyan president)
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To: Kartographer
Just today, while out for a walk, I picked up a couple railroad spikes. I put one in my car. In the arm rest/glove box. If I get jacked by thugs in hoodies, at least I'll be able to knock one of them in the chops. I also gave a spike to my 80 year old dad, for his car.

At this time, I still don't want to own a gun.

4 posted on 03/31/2012 4:46:50 PM PDT by BarbM (Portuguese Dog--Kenyan president)
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To: Kartographer

If nothing else the whole worlds economy is a house of cards just waiting for the right zephyr to send it tumbling.

If the present spending continues I don’t see how we can avoid a collapse like that of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale.

But the market is up you say, yeah it’s up using billions in ‘printed’ money in the hands of corrupted bankers, investors and their cronies. The world is now flooded with fake and faux money. The game is so rigged and now even the ‘house’ is starting to lose.

When the whole thing tanks as it will what do you think the entiled class will do when they can’t get their cell phones, their food stamps and EBT cards, rent vouchers and so forth.

What we will see is a much more violent version of Argentina, we will certainly see something much closer to Bosnia. American has become Balkanized and splintered, we no longer share the same basic beliefs we have become pocks of people with little in common with one another.

And many of this pockets are very larger entitlement minded and believe they are owed much by others and already shown that they will use violence to get their due.

I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and see rape, robbery and murder for murder sake. You will see what I call ‘pocket pogroms’ where ‘yutes’ will think no more about killing those unlike them than most people think about stepping on a roach. That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

Think of this quote which is one of my favorites:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

On top of all who knows how many saboteurs (Islamic, Chinese etc) and sleepers have crossed our borders and are now just waiting to cause havoc.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


5 posted on 03/31/2012 4:51:16 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: BarbM

So you’re willing to use one weapon to defend your life but not another, more efficient one. Interesting.


6 posted on 03/31/2012 4:51:31 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


7 posted on 03/31/2012 4:52:46 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I've accumulated as much as I can store in dehydrated and freeze-dried foods, and stashed other frequently used items. Got lamps, candles, matches, lighters, pencils, paper, etc. Books, cards, games.

Salmon comes in foil packages that are easy to store for a long time, as well as flour, sugar, yeast, salt, pepper, spices and flavorings. Canned goods, etc. Milk in the cubes. Water comes this way, too, a good way to stash an emergency supply.

I don't have any suitable land for gardening, but plant occasional crops like carrots, radishes, lettuce, etc. in large containers.

Knowing several low-tech skills is a big plus. Soapmaking, spinning/knitting/sewing by hand, pickling and brining, etc.

Anybody can do this much. Do it a little at a time, and before you know it, you'll have a nice supply of goods for keeping or bartering. Oh, yes. Make sure to get plenty of Baker's Chocolate and cocoa powder.

8 posted on 03/31/2012 4:59:35 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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To: Kartographer

Excerpt:
Under the name of National Security, the switch to all internet sources, cell phones and communication will be switched off. This message and the reasons for it will broadcast directly from ‘state sources’. They will be assured that it is is only a ‘temporary’ measure to stop the further spreading of hate, fear and destruction. All foreign news agencies present in our country will be rounded up and effectively silenced. No news in, no news out. Troops and tanks armed with all weapons of war will surround the White House and all government buildings. The Deception: All troops, tanks and personnel will be ablaze with American familiar icons, American flags waving, troops wearing the traditional uniforms etc. The truth is, our real protectors of our country will not kill their fellow citizens on a massive scale that would be required. They are, in reality, they enemies of our Republic who have no compunctions about carrying out the killings for the cause.

A this point, the very tenants of law and order system have been effectively been overwhelmed. The National Guards across the country can’t or won’t carry out the killings.The fire fighters are incapacitated when try to go put out the flames across the country. They will be shot and killed by the uncontrollable mobs...their actions are the very core for the successful Communist subversion and total replacement of our system...the key use of the ‘useful idiots’.

The food chain will be broken. The people who on government food stamps will no longer receive them. Grocery stores across the country will be stripped bare. Travel will limited and controlled in the name Nation Defense. Banks will be closed and all but he ‘chosen’ wealthiest will rapidly become penniless. Gold will be nationalized and confiscated in the “National Interest”

Under the name of National Security, the media has to be ‘temporarily’ replaced with all information coming from directly from the White House. All the former complying media sources will be pressed into total silence. All the former instigators and leaders of the black communities will be never heard from again...they disappear.


9 posted on 03/31/2012 5:24:21 PM PDT by RetSignman (I take responsibility for what I post not for what you understand.)
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To: BarbM
I'm trying to logically analyze this ...

You're a "Barb"(ara?) and your 60 yo dad will weild a 1 pound spike in close quarters combat and "at least knock one in the chops", just before you're raped and killed ... right?

Barb ... get a gun and shoot the bastard(S).

10 posted on 03/31/2012 5:26:11 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: redhead

On Doomsday Preppers I saw the one lady preserving eggs by coating them in some kind of cooking oil. Does this work?

I cringe watching that show. The same lady was training other women on self defense but was obviously very out of shape. She was also giving firearm classes where they were shooting at small targets laid on the ground.


11 posted on 03/31/2012 5:28:23 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I've heard of preserving eggs by rubbing them with oil, but to tell you the truth, I wouldn't even want to mess with it. It's possible to buy powdered eggs, cream, and even butter. The best way to preserve eggs is in the hens. keep a small flock of chickens or ducks and do it that way.

As for the firearms and personal defense, about all I can say is if you have a gun, be prepared to use it and don't be afraid of it. If you don't think you could aim it at another person, you'd better get into shape, because you almost certainly will have a fight on your hands. Better to have a reliable handgun with a laser sight ("point and shoot") than get shot, choked, stabbed, etc from close-contact struggle.

12 posted on 03/31/2012 5:33:55 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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To: driftdiver

Coating eggs in oil might help some but I wouldn’t want to save them for long. The oil would fill the pores in the shell.

Coating eggs in vegetable oil is one method they use to control swan population levels around here. It causes the embryo to suffocate.


13 posted on 03/31/2012 5:36:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: redhead

Oh I agree on the use and feeding of firearms. I just think the show is a joke exploiting people to make them look bad.

Its amazing how many preppers ignore one of the most important items, that of being in shape.


14 posted on 03/31/2012 5:38:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cripplecreek

I think that was her purpose of using oil, prevent oxygen absorption and thereby the spoilage. However it seems like the oil would turn rancid. As the other poster noted, storing fragile eggs seems risky.


15 posted on 03/31/2012 5:40:09 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

Getting through the first 2 to 3 months could make *all* the difference. It also buys you time to physically adapt a bit to the new reality.


16 posted on 03/31/2012 5:44:37 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: driftdiver
It does work with the right kind of oil and they have to be undamaged and unfertilized eggs for best results. If they have any cracks they will spoil.

Doing this would allow you to have eggs during the winter months when chickens naturally do not lay many or any eggs. The reason eggs and Easter go together is because that was usually when the hens began laying again. It was customary for the peasants to bring their lord an Easter tithe and it was usually eggs.

You can expand the hens laying time with a warm coop and supplemental food but without the additional light from a bulb they will stop laying during the winter.

17 posted on 03/31/2012 5:48:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: driftdiver

From what I’ve seen of the preppers show hasn’t impressed me much. Most of us can’t afford to put in a 1000+ square foot bunker.

I feel a lot more secure with a good support network of friends and neighbors I can trust.


18 posted on 03/31/2012 5:48:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: The Duke

The hardest thing a lot of people will have to do is to mentally adapt to the new reality.You’ve got about 3 minutes to do it,if you want to survive.


19 posted on 03/31/2012 5:49:24 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: The Duke

The hardest thing a lot of people will have to do is to mentally adapt to the new reality.You’ve got about 3 minutes to do it,if you want to survive.


20 posted on 03/31/2012 5:49:24 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cripplecreek

Some of those people have some good ideas. A lot of it is cringe worthy to me.

I’d love a nice large bunker. Can’t bury one down here in Florida though even if I could afford it. A defensive position could come in handy but a good group of friends would be necessary for that as you suggest.


21 posted on 03/31/2012 5:55:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

If you go to youtube and search for I’mstillworkin, she did experiment with ways to preserve eggs and that was one of the ways she used. She and katzcradul have great videos.


22 posted on 03/31/2012 5:56:53 PM PDT by goosie
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To: Farmer Dean

Reading materials cause that Kindle won’t charge itself.


23 posted on 03/31/2012 5:58:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ll be too busy securing the perimeter to read a book.


24 posted on 03/31/2012 6:03:34 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Good info, thanks. I did a google and it appears mineral oil is suggested. There are many other ways of preserving eggs including using salt, bran, quick lime, charcoal, and a few others.

All seem to revolve around keeping them cool and away from air.


25 posted on 03/31/2012 6:05:16 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer
I consider myself blessed that the things I do as interests and hobbies are the things that keep us in good food and prepared for almost any event.

I hunt, fish, garden, pick wild berries and nuts, can or otherwise preserve anything I can get my hands on, grind my own grains, raise livestock, raise bees and harvest honey, etc.

In the next year I will be full into poultry, and have some milk goats. I've got a churn and some things to get into cheese making.

It is hard work, but very rewarding!

26 posted on 03/31/2012 6:11:07 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Lurker

It is kinda weird to plan for close combat with a weapon, but shy away from a gun, huh?


27 posted on 03/31/2012 6:12:55 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: driftdiver
"Oh I agree on the use and feeding of firearms. I just think the show is a joke exploiting people to make them look bad. Its amazing how many preppers ignore one of the most important items, that of being in shape."

Oh, I agree 100%. It's pathetic to see the preppers willing to expose their preparations on national media. Incredibly foolish to make such things public. I haven't been able to watch even one full episode.

28 posted on 03/31/2012 6:15:24 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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To: driftdiver

I’m not so sure that the preppers show is to ridicule preparedness, rather than show it in a good light. Like the guy that bugs out with his kids, then shoots his own thumb off.


29 posted on 03/31/2012 6:16:27 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“Like the guy that bugs out with his kids, then shoots his own thumb off.”

Did that happen on the show?


30 posted on 03/31/2012 6:18:14 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: redhead
"It's possible to buy powdered eggs, cream, and even butter."

I have started canning butter in jars. It isn't difficult and tastes better. When there is a good sale, I take advantage.

31 posted on 03/31/2012 6:18:24 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

How do you can butter?


32 posted on 03/31/2012 6:20:28 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

It did. One of the early shows. I haven’t watched a full episode since. It takes about 5 minutes, on average, to show something stupid enough to make me change the channel.


33 posted on 03/31/2012 6:22:39 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Kartographer

Thats exactly right. Unless you want to be reporting down at the football stadium for your ration card and sticking your kids little arm out for the RFID chip you better have your own stash of food and water to last for 6-12 mos. minimum. Oh and need I add a couple of good weapons and sufficient ammo to protect your supplies from the grasshoppers who don’t have an extra can of chili in the pantry.


34 posted on 03/31/2012 6:26:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: driftdiver
Basically, you melt it and put it in sterilized jars and shake them every 15 minutes or so while they cool. There are lots of sites with instructions if you use a search engine. There is also some info I've downloaded for doing it in a pressure canner, but I haven't done so yet.

Let me know if you need me to post the specifics.

35 posted on 03/31/2012 6:28:52 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: cripplecreek

If you coat eggs in butter or oil they will last several months.


36 posted on 03/31/2012 6:29:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: driftdiver

Oh, and the canned butter will last 3-5 years on the shelf, IF you have a cool, dark place to store it. It needs to be refrigerated if you don’t have someplace cool, but it will last for a very long time and still allows you to save money when there is a good sale.


37 posted on 03/31/2012 6:32:54 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: cripplecreek

Don’t coat the eggs and they will keep up to 90 days at 70 degrees temp. Coat in cooking oil and store at temps less than 50 degrees and 18 months is not unheard of. Towards the end of either period check each egg separately before adding to what you are making.

Ask any sailor, who has deployed, about cases of eggs stacked in the passageways.


38 posted on 03/31/2012 6:39:21 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Have you tried making Glee? (not the TV show!)

It is very shelf stable and canning would make it even more so.

39 posted on 03/31/2012 6:45:29 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: Farmer Dean
The hardest thing a lot of people will have to do is to mentally adapt to the new reality.You’ve got about 3 minutes to do it,if you want to survive.

I'm not sure I understand that(?)

40 posted on 03/31/2012 7:00:24 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: BarbM

a padlock in a sock or tied to a bandanna gives you more reach and you can palm it to


41 posted on 03/31/2012 7:02:42 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: BarbM
At this time, I still don't want to own a gun.

Two years ago my wife spoke as you do. Hated them. Feared them.

Today, we went to the range. She did some practice with her .38 special revolver, fired a few magazines through her .380 semi auto and took some lessons from me on a .22 rifle with a scope and one without. She doesn't like my 9mm Beretta though.

Keep thinking about it and reconcile yourself with the way things are going to be soon. It only makes sense.

42 posted on 03/31/2012 7:10:01 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: Kartographer

As part of my prep I am looking for some seeds for Ahipa and Tarwi. If anyone knows where to find some please let me know!


43 posted on 03/31/2012 7:12:26 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I don’t think I have, but the word seems familiar. I searched on Yahoo! for 5 minutes and didn’t come up with anything. What can you tell me?


44 posted on 03/31/2012 7:36:31 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: Kartographer
There is NO way to prepare for every event; that's what I've come to understand. All I can do, is the best I can do; and then stand. For me, it comes down to faith in God; faith and works. That's where I disagree with this guy's essay.

DEEP SURVIVAL

45 posted on 03/31/2012 7:38:25 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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bttt


46 posted on 03/31/2012 7:39:21 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: driftdiver

Re: “On Doomsday Preppers I saw the one lady preserving eggs by coating them in some kind of cooking oil. Does this work?”

Yes it does. And there are various similar, proven, ways to extend the life of eggs for up to a year without refrigeration.

The secret to coating them with a substance like cooking oil is that it seals the pores in the eggshell and makes them airtight.

Other substances that have been used are vaseline and water glass (sodium silicate).

This technique works and is perfectly safe. If an egg does go bad you will know it as soon as you crack the shell. I have eaten eggs stored without refrigeration for months and they were perfectly good.

This way of preserving eggs was well known by our forefathers but the advent of electrical powered refrigeration has led people to forget the old methods.

You can learn a lot about food preservation without refrigeration from long distance small boat sailors and the books they wrote. People have been sailing across oceans in small sailboats for over 100 years. To do that they have had to stock up on foods that will last for months without refrigeration. So they know many techniques and ways of living without refrigeration that others are not familiar with.

There are many books offering good information on the subject from people who have actually had to live off their non-refrigerated stored foods. So they have actual experience in what preppers are trying to learn.

One good book to start with is “The Care And Feeding of the Sailing Crew” by Lin and Larry Pardey.

You can also Google “storing eggs with water glass” for more info.


47 posted on 03/31/2012 7:39:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
GHEE
48 posted on 03/31/2012 7:41:23 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: BarbM

We bought a gun last year. Had never wanted to own one before, but some friends of ours lived in Mississippi during Katrina. They related the terror they felt when they were home unarmed and saw a gang of thugs coming up the street in their neighborhood breaking into houses and looting. Thankfully, the gang left before they got to our friend’s home.

We never want to be in that position.


49 posted on 03/31/2012 7:45:10 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: exhaustedmomma

Ghee ... yes, that’s why glee sounded familiar. Thanks!


50 posted on 03/31/2012 7:46:18 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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