Skip to comments.Former Marine Strike Planner: "Start viewing this administration as an existential threat to Israel"
Posted on 04/01/2012 12:21:32 AM PDT by CaptainKrunch
Four senior American diplomats -- most likely in the State Department -- as well as senior intelligence officers appear to have leaked a key military relationship between Azerbaijan and Israel.
A highly knowledgeable Democratic friend emails Ron Ben-Yishais YnetNews report US thwarting Israeli strike on Iran. The report asserts that the Obama administration is leaking information to the media in order to avert an Israeli strike in Iran. Ben-Yishai observes that in recent weeks the administration has shifted from persuasion efforts vis-à-vis decision-makers and Israels public opinion to a practical, targeted assassination of potential Israeli operations in Iran. My friend comments succinctly on the report: Wow. Ron Ben-Yishai is considered to be one of the most serious Israeli defense correspondents.
Ben-Yishai gives few examples of the Obama administrations efforts to thwart an Israeli strike on Iran, but the news this week provides what seems to be a case study supporting his thesis. Foreign Policy reports that, according to four senior diplomats and military intelligence officers, Azerbaijan has granted the Israelis access to airbases in that country. Such access would dramatically mitigate the difficulty of an Israeli strike against Irans nuclear facilities.
I've got experience as a Marine F-4 Phantom Radar Interceptor Officer. I've planned strike missions. I've got a thousand hours in the Phantom. So I'm familiar with the problems strike planners have in attacking a target or multiple targets like Iran. And as I looked at the map, I thought: 'Boy, oh, boy, if the Israelis had an alliance with Azerbaijan, that would be the perfect place to launch a strike.
They've got this beautiful, 10,000-foot concrete runway in Baku. You take off, you come right out over the Caspian Sea. The pilots flip on their radar altimeters, drop down 25-feet off the deck, and they just race in a straight line.
They pop up over some hills, and they're in Tehran before the Iranians even know what hit them. They could then go hit the other targets. It reduces the distance for this strike by, oh, six, seven hundred miles. It might alleviate the need for tankers. Or, if they do need tanker support, you could put them over the Caspian Sea...
...The beauty of Baku is that the Caspian Sea is right at the end of the runway. It's a straight shot, maybe 300 miles, from that base to Tehran. A good radar altimeter will get an F-4, F-16, F-15 strike fighter maybe 25 feet off the water. Going in at that altitude, you're not going to be picked up by radar.
But there's something even more important here. The Iranians are not expecting an attack from the north. Now, with the revelation of this relationship, they are. And that has a lot of implications beyond the tactical.
Think of it this way. Prior to this revelation, the Iranians -- although they noticed some connections between Israel and Azerbaijan -- didn't know how deep that connection was.
Now the Iranians can start bullying the Azerbaijanis. They can send a diplomat up to Baku and say, basically, 'if any Israeli plane hits us from the north, when we get our nuke, we are going to test it on Baku. Of course that will all happen behind the scenes, but the threat will be made.
Now, I want you to consider this: there are many ways to attack Iran. You can go for the nuke sites. Or you can go for a decapitation strike. A decapitation strike is a much easier operation if you're coming from Azerbaijan.
Think of it this way: every once in a while, the Iranians have a little get-together. They bring all of the Mullahs together in one place... Why not? They'd be doing us and the world a tremendous favor if they did that.
And it's not going to happen now.
I can guarantee that all of those new Soviet anti-aircraft missiles that the Iranians bought are all going up north now, pointed and waiting for something there. In fact, they'll probably put radars on the Caspian from the mountaintops there, just to see if there's anything come up off the water.
Strategic, tactical surprise: gone.
You have to ask for the motivation behind the leak. I mean, if the Israelis can do this operation, it's to our benefit! From a diplomatic standpoint, if you wanted to tell the Iranians that the Israelis did this, it's without our permission. And then try to butter up the Iranians after the strike, so they don't close the Strait of Hormuz, that's one thing.
But giving away all of the secrets of an ally? When you're doing that, you have to ask whether we still have Israel as an ally. We are not acting like an ally. In fact, if you ask me, based on the amount of time I expect the Israelis put in this relationship with Azerbaijan, I would start viewing this administration as an existential threat to Israel.
Nut job conspiracy (but oh so true!) ping
It is also an existential threat to America, as well as all of mankind.
So, Zer0 wants Iran to get the nuke. He also wants to end our anti-missile technology and give Russia information about what we do have. We have already heard about one of our drones dropping out of the sky. What else will drop out of the sky when our enemies decide to strike? And how much is Zer0 undermining our strength as the leader of the free world in his insane bias formented by the likes of Bill Ayers.
That is who is he is, sheik, only so much worse, because he is real, and there is no going back.
Time for Israel to leak the REAL birth certificate.
But remember: HE’S NOT A MUSLIM!!!
F-4....25 ft. off the deck...bullsh**.
What? You’ve never seen a smoke screen laid down by an F4 at 25’ off the deck? Come on man! ;o)
Birth certificates are not issued for children who are born of a jackal. I say that tongue-in-cheek, but I don't think sheik yerbouty's post #4 is off the mark.
The hard left, of which Obama is a leader has as one of its founding beliefs the idea that the only thing between us and a worldwide socialist utopia magically and instantly breaking out, is the power of the Unites States of America. Obama believes that if he can just weaken American power enough, suddenly paradise on earth will spring up from thin air.
Thing is, no matter what, 70% of Jews will vote for him again. Republicans could nominate the chief rabbi of Jerusalem and Jews would still vote for Obama.
OK, then he’s a salacious Salafist!
Was it his name that gave away his being a Moose?
American Jews support their American Muslim destroyer.
Real religious Jews do NOT support Obama.
“I would start viewing this administration as an existential threat to Israel.
Evil is as Evil does.
I’m not worried about the outcome of all of this. I read the book.
Obama believes that if he can just weaken American power enough, suddenly paradise on earth will spring up from thin air.
So then He does have something in common with the Mullahs - both believe in fairy tales predicating one simple act can bring about paradise on Earth.
US Jews are Democrats first, Jews second or third depending on which way the wind is blowing. They must also believe in fairy tales.
One would have to think that if the Israeli intel agencies had anything on the moron, that they would start putting it out there. But, since day one he has thrown everything in everyone’s face and yet nothing seems to stick to the guy. There has to be something.
I guess this sort of blows the theory we've always held around here about the Mossad being all powerful.
“Real religious Jews do NOT support Obama.”
Affirmative. Obama is viewed as an anti-Semite in my Orthodox community.
I can’t even imagine how the Israeli gov’t views Obama. Our next President has a LOT of smoothing-over to do.
Everything this guy does makes sense in light of what he privately told the Egyptian ambassador: that he was and still is a Muslim who supports the Muslim agenda.
The Muslim agenda that all sects agree on is the destruction of the US and Israel and the institution of worldwide sharia.
The producer of “We Will Not Be Silenced” says that top democrats told her George Soros met with both Hillary and Obama during the 2008 primary to find out if they were on board with his plans to destroy America. Hillary wasn’t; Obama - the foreign enemy combatant - WAS.
George Soros seriously believes he is God and has said that he is afraid the US will win the war on terror because then America and capitalism will be strong, and those are the 2 great evils that cause all the world’s problems, that he as God must destroy.
It’s not even as if any of this is secret. It is blatant. Obama is the puppet of a guy who has sworn to destroy America. Both the puppet and his master have been communists from Day One and while the puppet has always been an ally of the Islamists the master has also within the past 10 years become an ally of the Islamists.
I’ve been saying for a while that the union of corrupt government (communism) and corrupt religion (Islam) as united enemies of Judeo-Christianity and its freedom (anti-Christ) is the Biblical picture shown in Revelation. Recently somebody pointed out that the symbol for the Quran is 666. If I’m understanding correctly the next step in this progression is a massive economic collapse followed by the economy being governed by Islam (sharia) - where those who accept the mark of the beast (666-the Quran) will be allowed to buy and sell (which accurately describes dhimmitude) and those who won’t accept the mark (the true Church) will be killed. And those who choose to live will wish they were dead.
The only question in my mind is the same issue as there was in Sodom and Gomorrah - whether there are enough people left in America who would even care to reject who Soros/Obama have clearly revealed themselves to be, that the Lord can salvage this place. As I look at the Trayvon Martin scenario and realize that the evidence that exonerates George Zimmerman is available for anybody to see and yet we’ve got morons in the streets demanding his arrest, I really question whether America’s people are too depraved to even allow the Lord to rescue us from this regime intent on killing us.
I’m fighting as if there’s still hope that this country can be saved.
But if anybody has unbelieving family or friends I strongly encourage you to be praying your hearts out for them because I think this ride may get really, really, REALLY bumpy very soon.
If anybody has been sitting on the fence regarding Jesus Christ, thinking they’ve got all the time in the world to come to Him, be very, very careful because your time may be getting very short. We’ll keep trying to fly this plane but ultimately it’s gonna blow sometime and a person would be crazy to be without a parachute that allows them to bail out in time to survive that explosion.
I’m not an in-your-face Christian and I’ve not tried to proselytize anybody here at all, so what I’m saying is intended to be a public service announcement. Time is running out.
Our country has been inoculated from the truth even mattering at this point. We’ve already got Sheriff Joe finding probable cause for forgery and fraud of both the BC and the draft registration for Obama, and we can’t get anybody in government at all to even so much as yawn over it.
As with the Trayvon case, the truth is out there on Obama being a foreign enemy combatant - and America simply doesn’t care.
We are in worse shape than Sodom and Gomorrah. If the Lord sent an angel to rescue us we’d tried to rape him in the streets. Because that’s all the bulk of American minds are capable of.
I hope I’m wrong about that. I hope it’s just that the depraved are more vocal than the solid core that makes America what we’ve always been. But things are looking really bad right now. When truth doesn’t matter, you’re headed nowhere but the trash heap.
I hate what this thug is doing to Israel. I hope Israel feeds Obama disinformation so that what Obama leaks is pure BS that ends up helping Israel rather than harming Israel. That’s what they’re dealing with.
I do hope the people of Israel know that a bunch of us have been fighting Obama with every ounce of our being and that we hate what he has done to our allies. I’ve always hoped that the patriots in our military would know the same. I still can’t fathom how badly this nation has betrayed the only ones who ever really loved or befriended us. The fact that Obama has any chance of reelection at this point is a shame and disgust beyond anything I could ever have imagined.
Over the past decade or so, I have noticed people choosing sides, sometimes blatantly, sometimes subtle decisions of character which indicate which way they are headed.
People are deciding.
Maybe that explains the polarity in our society.
I think it does, and that polarity seems to have been intensifying and growing, not diminishing.
What Obama wants is NOT what is to the benefit of a free America.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need only threaten to report me to the Admin if I dont add you to the list...
Lots of ways to look at this.
It could, of course, hurt Israel’s attempt to take out Iran’s nuclear capability.
On the other hand, it could help it. Now Iran has to worry about an attack coming in from the North. That means they’ll need to reposition a heck of a lot of their defense assets to counter a move from that direction. That’ll leave them weaker elsewhere.
Additionally, the Iranians could try to plug the gap through importing additional weapons. And do so quickly and without the normal QA checks. This opens the door to having their AD network exposed to new, untested equipment that could contain a relative of Stuxnet. Or otherwise be sabotaged through other means.
There’s a very complex game being played out right now. No one should take any news of this sort at face value, no matter what/who the source is.
That’s an interesting point of view. I hope you are right.
With the gang in power though...I have serious doubts that they working for the home team - the US - let alone Israel.
This may wind up accomplishing two objectives at the same time...expose this administration and get all of those missiles looking in the wrong direction.
I see you’re thinking outside of the box as well.
Bebe needs to cut all ties with this evil administration.
“Toning down the rhetoric” doesn’t seem to make any difference to it either.
Any more than Obama apologizing for our soldiers actually disposing of desecrated Korans in the proper way stopped our own “allies” from killing our troops in retaliation...
A question I have is whether all our Congress-critters, by submitting themselves to dhimmi subservience to the Muslim-in-chief and his agenda, have already accepted the mark of the beast. Either they’ve been threatened outright, or they are asleep at the wheel. In any event whatever personal faith they have hasn’t translated into any public stand against the takeover by the two beasts serving the dragon.
I was just in Bible class where we’re studying the book of Judges. We’re learning about Othniel, the nephew of Caleb. Caleb & Joshua constituted the 20% of the Israelite spies who believed the Lord was bigger than all their enemies and wanted to simply trust His word of promise to them. The 80% voted to wander in the desert rather than simply be given an inheritance by the Lord. I’ve thought about Joshua and Caleb and how it must have rankled to live among the 80% all those years. As I said in Bible class, it reminds me of the place in Revelation where it talks about a time when it seems like evil is winning, when the beast has power to conquer the saints - and it says, “This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints.”
What an understatement. lol. May the Lord grant us the patience we need.
Check my tagline...I remind myself daily of the last part.
Obama told the Egyptian ambassador in January of 2010 that once he got Obamacare passed he would give Israel what-for.
And that’s exactly what he has done.
The man is a foreign enemy combatant whose goals are to destroy the US and Israel and institute worldwide sharia. That is the “Muslim agenda” that he told the Egyptian ambassador that he supports, since he was and still is a Muslim. According to the producer of “We Will Not Be Silenced”, Soros chose Obama over Hillary in the 2008 primary because Obama agreed with Soros to destroy America.
The Lord will defend Israel. As others have noted, there may be good that can come from Obama’s leaks. But I have no doubts that the leaks themselves were intended for harm - just as Joseph’s brothers meant him harm. But the Lord used it for His own good purposes, and He can do the same here. Obama needs to learn that nobody can harm the Lord’s people unless He Himself allows it.
We’ve been told the future ahead-of-time so we don’t have to be afraid of it. Like you say, He knows what He’s doing. We’ll be OK.
This bodes ill for Obama. Israel doesn’t talk—they act. Think their spies will not dig up the dirt on Obama? they can find (or manufacture) the Birth Certificate—or other things that they could unleash upon the administration? I see this as the game changer—they blow that ends the Progressive rule may come from outside the nation.
That's why I generally read the comments first, to see if someone else already made the comment I was going to make.
The Won was raised from his mother's knee to hate freedom, to hate Western Civilizaton, and above all to hate this country.
If he can get us destroyed, it doesn't matter to him if he's destroyed too in the process - he knows he'll be revered by billions as the one who destroyed The Great Satan.
We've got a suicide bomber occupying 1600 Penn. Ave.
Yes sir, we do.
Very well stated.
Surely ye jest!
All is lost without Valerie Plame Super Spy!
Scooter is in jail for not having 100% accurate total recall, and Ricky "my peeps" Holder commits perjury, and obstruction of justice daily.
It seems that the left has been far more leaky than the right. I recall that the Plame affair was if not exactly a leak certainly an appeal against the administration by the agency. It probably was a setup from the beginning.
We have a history of the CIA leaking against George Bush and joined by the Department of State. This was undoubtedly a coordinated leak designed to frustrate, not administration policy, but to further administration policy against Israel. It might be that the only motive that Obama has in this is to delay the strike to his schedule so that he can craft an October surprise and strike himself to win the election.
We also have the history of the Pentagon papers which helped unhorse a president of the United States.
I think that George Bush just got it wrong in failing to be aggressive against the leakers but being overly aggressive (or excessively pusillanimous) on the Valerie Plame affair, all to the detriment of national security. Obviously, the administration officials who leaked this have no fear.