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Dick Gregory on Trayvon, Zimmerman and parallels with Atlanta’s missing and murdered children
AllVoices ^ | March 31, 2012 | Harold Michael Harvey

Posted on 04/01/2012 12:49:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Mounting evidence has begun to disprove the assertions of George Zimmerman in his version of what happened when he fired a hand gun into the chest of Trayvon Martin. The shot mortally wounded Martin and speculation abounds over the reason why Zimmerman would shoot an unarmed black teenager.

Comedian and humanist Dick GregoryDick Gregory told Allvoices in an exclusive interview in Sanford, Florida, last week that he believes George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin as an act to gain “admittance into some paramilitary or semi-police fraternal order.”

When asked about his comment Mr. Gregory said, “It’s nothing new. They have been killing black boys for a long time.”

Gregory has been a longtime supporter of the theory advanced by James BaldwinJames Baldwin in Baldwin’s 1985 essay, “The evidence of things not seen,” that some racist- based group was behind the Atlanta missing and murdered children crisis that occurred in the late 1970s and into the early 1980s. Atlanta authorities arrested and convicted Wayne Williams, a black music promoter and independent journalist, for two of the adults who had been murdered and they closed the book on 23 of 28 other murders with the belief that Wayne Williams had acted alone in those cases as well.

Baldwin contended that as late as the summer of 1981 the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) was investigating a Klansman named George Sanders. An informant had told police Sanders stated the killer had “…wiped out a thousand future generations of Ni***rs.” (See AP, August 5, 2005).

The informant later testified in court that Sanders told him, “The KKK was creating an uprising among the blacks; that they were killing the children, and that they are going to do one each month until things blow up.” Things were about to blow up when a day care center which catered to black children literally exploded. Atlanta’s black community, frustrated with no end to the disappearance and murder of its children in sight became angry. The city’s first black mayor, Maynard Jackson, reported that the day care center’s boiler had explored. He asked the city to remain calm, offered a million dollar reward for information leading to the capture of the person or persons responsible for the missing and murdered children and within weeks Wayne Williams had been targeted for arrest. To this day no one has come forward to claim the million-dollar reward.

The informant testified that Sanders had “threatened to strangle one of the children, Lubie Geter, because Geter ran into Sanders’ car with a go-cart. Geter was later strangled and Williams was blamed for his death, though never charged. (See the Houston Chronicle, October 9, 1991)

Gregory believes the Klan was killing black boys in Atlanta 30 years ago and that Trayvon Martin’s death may be connected to a ritual or initiation into a paramilitary outfit for George Zimmerman.

Dick Gregory, who has been on a fast since the execution of Troy Davis by the State of Georgia on September 20, 2011, said the Martin shooting would have been swept under the rug if not for what he calls “the black press,” that is, African American journalists employed by mainstream media. The shooting death had occurred three weeks before the story gained traction in the national media.

“This is a wake up call to the nation, what happened here is no different than what happen to Emmitt Till or Troy Davis. It’s time to put an end to the murder of our children and the key(s) to that are the black woman and the black church. It is time for the black woman to stand up and say enough is enough, and time for the black church to reclaim the moral authority it once had,” Gregory said.

We are perhaps days away from a decision from the Special Prosecutor on whether she will file charges against George Zimmerman, but as in the Atlanta Child Murders two decades ago, the black community is in an uproar, with one group, the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, calling for vigilante action. They have posted a “wanted dead or alive” poster and issued a $10,000 reward for the apprehension of George Zimmerman.

All of which has taken the nation’s mind off a dismal Republican presidential primary in its desultory quest to select a candidate capable of beating the nation’s first black President in November.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Music/Entertainment; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
How can we stay one country when we are this divided?
1 posted on 04/01/2012 12:49:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dick Gregory on Trayvon, Zimmerman and parallels with Atlanta’s missing and murdered children

Ahh... Gregory remembers Wayne Williams.


2 posted on 04/01/2012 1:28:28 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually the evidence is mounting that supports Zimmerman.


3 posted on 04/01/2012 1:31:45 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps it is meant to be divided.


4 posted on 04/01/2012 1:52:07 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Lancey Howard

I read a book written by the FBI profiler who worked on the Atlantas child killing. He said without a doubt Williams did it. He cited various facts about it.
If it comes down to Dick Gregory and the FBI profiler, it not hard to decide who to believe.


5 posted on 04/01/2012 2:00:51 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what the lefts wants. A divided country. They need a steady class of people they can depend on for votes and,when needed,outrage on demand.
If the races got together,imangine what could get done. But the left cant have that.


6 posted on 04/01/2012 2:03:21 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ironically, there is a conspiracy going on, but it's a conspiracy of idiots and fools with their pride and ignorance. I've maintained this whole thing can be summed up with one simple question: How do you explain the violence in the Black community without indicting it. That's the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. They have a generation of especially young Black men who don't know how to negotiate social encounters without acting violently, and instead of addressing it, they'd rather behave like fools and pass it on to the next generation.
7 posted on 04/01/2012 2:53:44 AM PDT by csense
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I notice Dick conveniently avoids the issue of out-of-wedlock births in the black communities... the fatherless homes that are largely a cause for the culture of violence that permeates it.

Yo, Dick, is it Whitey`s fault your homies are gunning each other down on Chicago`s South Side to the tune of 40+ on any given weekend?

Yo, Dick.. how about sharing with us the great and shining success of modern-day Detroit?


8 posted on 04/01/2012 3:33:38 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I notice Dick conveniently avoids the issue of out-of-wedlock births in the black communities... the fatherless homes that are largely a cause for the culture of violence that permeates it.

Yo, Dick, is it Whitey`s fault your homies are gunning each other down on Chicago`s South Side to the tune of 40+ on any given weekend?

Yo, Dick.. how about sharing with us your thoughts on that great and shining success of modern-day Detroit?


9 posted on 04/01/2012 3:34:18 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

What he means by “evidence” is Leftist Conspiracy Theories. And they are mounting against Zimmerman.


10 posted on 04/01/2012 3:46:41 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

Where is the outrage?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html


11 posted on 04/01/2012 4:13:11 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ScottinVA
I notice Dick conveniently avoids the issue of out-of-wedlock births in the black communities... the fatherless homes that are largely a cause for the culture of violence that permeates it.

He also ignores the fact that the African American community is killing it self. Almost 94% of the murder of African American males is caused by African American males

12 posted on 04/01/2012 4:24:24 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Comedian and humanist Dick Gregory"

They left out Communist: Dick Gregory has been a member of the Party since the 60s. I remember his efforts in support of the North Vietnamese in the early 70s for the People's Coalition for Peace and Justice.

It is funny how people forget those good old connections, isn't it?

13 posted on 04/01/2012 4:24:29 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comedian and humanist Dick GregoryDick Gregory told Allvoices in an exclusive interview in Sanford, Florida, last week that he believes George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin as an act to gain “admittance into some paramilitary or semi-police fraternal order.” When asked about his comment Mr. Gregory said, “It’s nothing new. They have been killing black boys for a long time.”

I guess he IS a comedian - that's plain funny.

Now, if he would get into how 13% of the population commits 52% of all murders and also kills many more of its own than all other races together, he might be on to something.

14 posted on 04/01/2012 4:30:25 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Mr. Gregory said, “It’s nothing new. They have been killing black boys for a long time.””

Dick Gregory is telling most of the truth, except for his deliberate deception when he implies that mostly it was whites have been killing blacks.

Gregory is being deliberately deceptive because he knows that most blacks are killed by blacks.

Consider the irony of a black with a Scots name. Only in America can this happen, and only in America could a successful, educated black be taken seriously when he spouts such “Black Power” lies about the white society which gave him his success.

Gregory IS a true “dick”.

Truth in labeling has been achieved!


15 posted on 04/01/2012 4:52:18 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Lancey Howard

Yeah. It’s funny how the killings stopped once this monster was caught.


16 posted on 04/01/2012 5:01:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Planned Parenthood is killing blacks by the thousands each year.

When is Sharpton and the media planning their rally on that?


17 posted on 04/01/2012 5:06:53 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Yorlik803

I grew up here and was high school age then. A classmate found one of the dead kids. I have no doubt Williams killed them.


18 posted on 04/01/2012 5:16:47 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: sbMKE; 2ndDivisionVet
Planned Parenthood is killing blacks by the thousands each year.

When is Sharpton and the media planning their rally on that?


Since 1973, there have been over 53,000,000 abortions in the U.S.. Of that, about half of them were among blacks and Hispanics that together comprise only about 25% of the U.S. population. So, just splitting that number between the two gives about 13,000,000 per minority group (though I think there were probably initially a lot more blacks "counseled" into abortion). As an average for the past 39 years, that comes out to 333,333 per year, or 6410 per week, or 915 per day.

Hey, Al and Jesse, you'd now have a much larger population to pimp your racist message to if you guys hadn't been so willing to acquiesce to its self-destruction. But you do that for the same reason you're so relatively quiet about all the black on black crime: there's no money and power in it for you because you can't use to promote racism that which black Americans do to themselves.
19 posted on 04/01/2012 5:18:14 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
About forty years ago Gregory's book, N*****, was fair-minded and perceptive, and written with humor, warmth and good natured, even if he recommended nothing more than garden variety liberal nostrums.

Don't know if he's entered a paranoid dotage or if he just craves attention, or some fatal combination of both, but it is painful to listen to him these days, if you once held him in some regard.

20 posted on 04/01/2012 5:22:24 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Jihad" is Arabic for "Helter-Skelter", "bin Laden" is Arabic for "Manson".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The lefties just can’t hep’ it...they ALWAYS overreach.


21 posted on 04/01/2012 5:25:04 AM PDT by JPG (Hold on tight; rough road ahead.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mounting evidence has begun to disprove the assertions of George Zimmerman in his version of what happened when he fired a hand gun into the chest of Trayvon Martin. The shot mortally wounded Martin and speculation abounds over the reason why Zimmerman would shoot an unarmed black teenager.

Gee, it seems to me that mounting evidence has begun to buttress the assertions of George Zimmerman and to undermine the crazy speculations that abounded. Notice that even this author is saying that Trayvon was shot in the chest, not in the back or the back of the head as some folks wildly surmised.

One thing that shows this is the fact that after all that has come out with witnesses and physical evidence supporting Zimmerman's account of the moments before the shooting, major magazine publications continue to run a four year old picture of Trayvon. Question: why? Answer: because a school picture of a sweet looking 13 year old will sell more copies than a tattooed 17 year old flipping the bird.
22 posted on 04/01/2012 5:33:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go to 4:50 of this video, that’s what Martin could have been doing to Zimmerman during the fight.
It would be reasonable to fear for your life under that situation...

http://www.jon-bones-jones-fans.com/fight-video-jon-jones-vs-matt-hamill/


23 posted on 04/01/2012 6:07:28 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Mounting evidence has begun to disprove the assertions of George Zimmerman in his version of what happened when he fired a hand gun into the chest of Trayvon Martin. “


interesting...last week race hustler jesse jackson claimed martin was shot in the back of the head...


24 posted on 04/01/2012 6:12:48 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: JPG

That’s true about the left’s overreach. obama has now opened himself up for legitimate criticism when he doesn’t publicly weigh in on any black on white crime. Every black criminal “could be obama’s son” since he based the potential paternity on skin color.


25 posted on 04/01/2012 6:28:44 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Lancey Howard

I was on a plane with “Dick” a few years back, he sat across the aisle from me and a coworker in the first class cabin, my buddy can’t stand him, remember when he was going on hunger strikes to attempt to get his way, well after about 10 minutes of flying, having heard enough of his spew, my friend asked him if he could justify being in first class being a communist racist? a good question, obviously to provoke a reaction, “Dick” squirmed a bit and did not answer, then the whole cabin started giving him Cr%$, the guy next to him said, come on leave him alone , he was on a hunger strike for a week to get this seat...it was brutal, but very funny..


26 posted on 04/01/2012 7:08:19 AM PDT by aces
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To: fortheDeclaration

I just read an article where Zimmermans neighbor said his face is all swollen.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/neighbor-defends-george-zimmerman-03302012

I got into a fight about 20 years ago here in New York city, the liberal sphincter hole of the east coast, where 2 liberals didn’t like my conservative bumper stickers on my car, like Vote for Bush and 2nd Amendment stickers, and they sucker-punched me through my open drivers side window while I sat in my car (because that’s how liberals fight) and they broke my nose.

At first my nose bled like a sonofabitch, would not stop. Then I went to the hospital and they X-rayed it and confirmed it was busted but said the best thing was to leave it as the bones would heal on their own.

Well after the bleeding stopped (by putting cotton balls up my nostrils) all that remained was my nose was a little swollen and red.

But the next day? Holy cow! My eyes swelled so much I could barely see out of them, and the skin around them turned almost black!

I mention all this because in the police video Zimmermans nose looks normal. But what they don’t show you is how he looked the next day which this neighbor is describing.

I assume this will all come out, photos and everything if he was smart enough to take photos.


27 posted on 04/01/2012 7:43:44 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: patriot08

The liberal MSM feels they have carte blanche now to start a race war being that our first foreign born Islamic mulatto POTUS has all but endorsed it.


28 posted on 04/01/2012 7:45:53 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The race hustlers have no need for the truth, because the truth is not their friend.


29 posted on 04/01/2012 8:38:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

****with the belief that Wayne Williams had acted alone in those cases as well.****

When Williams was arrested the murders stopped. Yet when CBS had a made for tv movie about the murders, they tried to show Williams might be innocent.


30 posted on 04/01/2012 8:58:33 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I saw the picture of Mr. Zimmerman, I knew this was not an interview wanted to read.


31 posted on 04/01/2012 8:58:58 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: patriot08; 2ndDivisionVet
Your post #11.

Where is the outrage? The years of leftist and MSM slanting and ignoring certain aspects of crime, has taken it's toll. George Orwell forecast the horror of being able to hold two conflicting views at the same time. In these cases while people maybe aware of equally horrible- or worse crimes against white victims, they hold this view. That it is more horrible,and punishable, if the black or minority is seemingly the victim.

I found myself humming the Billy Joel piece that was being played over the loudspeaker in the local coffee shop. "We didn't start the fire" a coverage of names in the news over the period, 1949-1989.

Wheel of fortune, Sally Ride, Heavy Metal, Suicide.
foreign debts, homeless vets,Aids, crack,
Bernie Goetz.

Going to Google and there he was - Bernie Goetz. In 1984 after being mugged and assaulted by young black men, he spent more time in the precinct than one of the perps. It was waived off and minimized. Later on a subway ride, four young blacks approached him. He shot all four of them and they survived. One was tragically crippled.

You and other Freepers may be better up on this case than myself. Since I intially thought, Goetz was a Wall Street broker, but remember the case at the time. Still, the furore and the debates raged at the time. Goetz served about nine months, but was in protective custody all that time.

The crap of young black men and any young men causing a reign of disquiet at best and at worst sheer terror, must stop.

Or we are not free.

32 posted on 04/01/2012 10:35:43 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blacks are busy exterminatng themselves.

If they had to have one black parent to be considered black, there would barely be 10 million blacks left in the US, and nearly half of those are born in Africa.

In another generation or two, they’ll be irrelevant.


33 posted on 04/01/2012 10:48:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: trebb
Now, if he would get into how 13% of the population commits 52% of all murders and also kills many more of its own than all other races together, he might be on to something.

Yep. But since a sizeable majority of murderers in that 13 % of the population are younger adult males and older teens, he would really be on to something if he included only these.
34 posted on 04/01/2012 10:51:59 AM PDT by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Yes, the medical records should show the injuries he incurred.

I wonder why those haven't been released, must be some privacy issues.

If I were Zimmerman I would want them shown to the public as soon as possible.

Of course all of this is just being pushed by the MSM to attack the 2nd Amendment and to disarm us so we cannot resist these attacks by thugs, like in the recent London riots.

The Left is concerned that they will lose their major intimidation weapon against the American people, fear of riots.

35 posted on 04/01/2012 5:12:17 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: verga
He also ignores the fact that the African American community is killing it self. Almost 94% of the murder of African American males is caused by African American males

He doesn't ignore it so much as dismiss it as falsified agit-prop.

IIRC, Dick Gregory was really big in the whole "CIA ran Crack into the cities to kill Blacks" thing in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The situation that became so explosive that the DCI actually debased himself and his organization by holding a town-hall meeting in South Central to address the allegations.
36 posted on 04/01/2012 5:29:17 PM PDT by tanknetter
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