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Barack Obama already knows Supreme Court decision on ObamaCare
Coach is Right ^ | 4/3/2012 | Doug Book

Posted on 04/03/2012 10:13:44 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

If the Supreme Court has followed long standing tradition, the preliminary decision as to the Constitutionality of the ObamaCare individual mandate and perhaps the fate of the law itself was known to the Justices on Friday of last week.

After oral arguments it is common practice for the Justices to meet Friday morning in a conference room where each Justice votes on the case, beginning with the Chief Justice and proceeding according to seniority. Shortly thereafter Justices will be assigned the writing of majority and minority opinions and comment on various case issues. Decisions can change over the months until presentation of the final ruling, which in the case of ObamaCare will probably be sometime in late June. (1)

Whatever happened Friday morning, it’s a safe bet Barack Hussein Obama was the 10th person to know, having undoubtedly received a call from Elena Kagan minutes after the meeting ended.

What will be Obama’s “stagecraft” between now and the day the Court makes its decision known to the rest of us?

Many political pundits believe Obama’s chances for re-election will be seriously impaired if the Court should find his signature power grab unconstitutional. But don’t believe it.

As was made obvious by his cynical race baiting in the Trayvon Martin affair, Obama is...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: elenakagan; obama; obamacare; scotus; supremecourt

1 posted on 04/03/2012 10:13:55 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

I imagine that Kagan called him as soon as the meeting was over. She already refused to recuse herself, so what’s one more ethical lapse?


2 posted on 04/03/2012 10:21:44 AM PDT by garybob (More sweat in training, less blood in combat.)
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To: garybob
I imagine that Kagan called him as soon as the meeting was over.

bosh. She was texting in real-time.

3 posted on 04/03/2012 10:25:32 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: garybob

Iam thinking it was a 7/2 vote.

Obummer and his crew know that they are screwed. His best
chance is to try to strong arm another one or two. That way they can claim in the fall that it was a Conservative/radical right wing court that over reached and screwed all the parasites of free stuff.


4 posted on 04/03/2012 10:28:41 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Oldpuppymax
He'll probably expedite pushing out more of the goodies, so that when it's all jerked away it will be more dramatic. He'll also be doing an in depth side-by-side comparison with Romneycare to shut the Republicans up on the debate in general.
5 posted on 04/03/2012 10:31:19 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

This issue is the dividing line of the era. Between personal responsibility and the responsibility of the group.

The group already cares for children and the elderly. We also care for the disabled, and make sure that immediate needs for the poor are met.

Now we tread on life decisions for the abled bodied. To what degree are we expected to obtain care for ourselves, provided by the group? We need to left alone in this area and decide / arrange on our own; as a measure of freedom. Unencumbered by having to support others in the group. If medical care is not important to an individual, OK. If it is important, then obtain it. Acute care is available for all. Diagnostic care, not so much.


6 posted on 04/03/2012 10:33:52 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Oldpuppymax

The Won is on Fox right now saying individual mandate was a conservative idea. Tells me he’s about to get slammed.


7 posted on 04/03/2012 10:34:31 AM PDT by lula ( We cannot afford 4 more years of the Won!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Funny how this communists King can get any information he wants. Let us try and the communists block is damn near air tight. Try getting his college information or his long form birth certificate. It is amazing how strong the communists are in America. Takes years of efforts to get anything.


8 posted on 04/03/2012 10:39:03 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: VRWCarea51
Either way, I think it's going 6-3.

I think Breyer would be the one to cross if Obamacare is struck down.

However, if it's upheld, then I think that Kennedy and Scalia would be the ones to join the 4 libs. Here's one of Scalia's quotes from 1/2011:

Persuade your fellow citizens it's a good idea and pass a law. That's what democracy is all about. It's not about nine superannuated judges who have been there too long, imposing these demands on society.

That one's got me more than a bit nervous.

9 posted on 04/03/2012 10:40:47 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

He and his little commie friends - like Van Jones - have been hitting it hard since Saturday.

He knows he lost.

If he won - he wouldn’t risk alienating a swing vote - because his attacks - and his pals - have all been personal, and “in your face” - an easy way to get a justice to switch.

It plays to his victimhood culture - but realistically - evreyone is just sick of the spoiled tyrant.

There will be a point in the debates - when his adversary just leans over and says “why don’t you stop whining about everyone else, and pass a budget, before your term is over”.


10 posted on 04/03/2012 10:42:12 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: lula
"The Won is on Fox right now saying individual mandate was a conservative idea. Tells me he’s about to get slammed.

And when Romney "wins" the nomination the Obongo will say that the individual mandate was ROMNEY's idea. And Obongo will be right. What terrible choices Americans will have in November.

11 posted on 04/03/2012 10:42:12 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: lula
I have to keep explaining that one to my favorite Leftist. Yes, the concept was introduced by the Right - as bait. The idea was to give the Left something which matched exactly what they were asking for, forcing them to admit that what they were asking for wasn't what they were trying to get. An effective, if risky, idea.
12 posted on 04/03/2012 10:45:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: lula
I have to keep explaining that one to my favorite Leftist. Yes, the concept was introduced by the Right - as bait. The idea was to give the Left something which matched exactly what they were asking for, forcing them to admit that what they were asking for wasn't what they were trying to get. An effective, if risky, rhetorical technique.
13 posted on 04/03/2012 10:45:55 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: VRWCarea51

Rush is saying this same thing right now, that O knew the internal vote.

In reading various analyses of the 3 days’ hearings, I also got the impression it would not be 5-4 but more like 6-3 or 7-2, or .. wouldn’t it be ironice? ... 9=0.


14 posted on 04/03/2012 10:48:20 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Oldpuppymax

Can somebody, anybody answer the question I have been asking for two and half years now, with ZERO results: “Why was this massive monstrosity needed when we already had HIPAA (Portability) and CHIPRA (child insurance)?” Both are funded through 2013.

To put it in the kindest terms possible, 0bambi is a f’n liar.


15 posted on 04/03/2012 10:53:48 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Oldpuppymax
What I really want is a very narrow decision written by a slim majority that absolutely curtails the idea of the commerce clause regulating everyday life. I want a rollback of all these stupid decisions that have been made by the court trying desperately to accommodation an exception. The law is supposed to cover the rule, NOT the exception. It is up to the sane and level headed minds to recognize when an exception exists, and pass the law by.

Worst case is that the court comes back with ‘this is a tax’ and dances around a bit. Because simply put, the easiest way to sidestep this whole arena is raise taxes by 5k a person and give a ‘tax credit’ of five thousand to everyone who complies with the buying of health insurance.

Yes, it's a backdoor mandate, but a lot harder to challenge that Congress’ power of making tax breaks.

I want the unequivocal, even if by the slimmest of majorities, ruling that specifically slams Congress for overstepping their bounds and limiting the commerce clause.

16 posted on 04/03/2012 10:55:18 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

ya , a little troll told him


17 posted on 04/03/2012 11:09:41 AM PDT by molson209
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To: the invisib1e hand

no she was getting the others their coffee!


18 posted on 04/03/2012 11:12:46 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If POTUS knows the vote and it was favorable, it would have been the height of lunacy to “politicize” the decision by saying what he did. The most sensible course of action would have been to keep his mouth shut.

Thus, either he knows the vote was against him or he was preemptively trying to steer votes without knowing how people were inclined to vote. But the problem with the latter interpretation is that POTUS was silent all last week. If he wanted to preemptively steer votes, the best time to have done so would have been in advance of Friday’s vote. Even he has to know that any justice who changes their mind on this momentous issue is going to look foolish or craven. Thus, if the goal was to “steer” their thinking, it was best to do so before they committed to a vote since once that vote is cast, it will be much harder to justify changing it.

In light of the foregoing, I’d put the odds that he knows the vote at better than 4:1.


19 posted on 04/03/2012 11:23:25 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Oldpuppymax

Even before Barack Hussein Obama was “sworn in” (yeah, THAT flub-a-dub production) he immediately began his relentless “march of destruction” across the Constitution, with apparent deceit and malice aforethought. “Keep ‘em confused” seems to be his method. - He’s a bizzy, bizzy, little wannabe ruler. - If he loses the election, look for a doozy of a temper tantrum and a level of fit throwing the likes of which you cannot imagine in your wildest dreams. Inciting riots? Hope not; but who knows what he will do in the wake of what he has already done to divide this country?

I will admit, that dude can read that teleprompter, and Speech 101 taught him well not to make a hissing sound with his “s’s” at the end of his words. - His regime tenure has been the most EXHAUSTING, DEPRESSING, OPPRESSIVE, TIRESOME, DISCOURAGING, YOU NAME IT, ever, in the history of this country.


20 posted on 04/03/2012 11:27:22 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Be careful what you wish for,if Obamacare gets dumped the economy will probably soar and get the Marxist reelected


21 posted on 04/03/2012 11:37:19 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: EDINVA

I’m worried that somehow Obama will find a way to get to one of the justices in favor of overturning his law to change their vote by some sort of intimidation behind the scenes.


22 posted on 04/03/2012 11:54:53 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: molson209

I don’t think that he necessarily has the inside scoop. Hardly anyone on TV last week thought that it would be upheld, even liberal pundits. I’m not counting any chickens until they’re hatched though.


23 posted on 04/03/2012 11:56:41 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: lula
The Won is on Fox right now saying individual mandate was a conservative idea. Tells me he’s about to get slammed.

Hey, it's just words used for political purposes and loyalty checks. You're not really a liberal if you still need them to actually make sense.

Did I ever mention that gravity is purple, and sounds like Middle C? It's true. Just waffle it with some cherries and ask around. Everyone agrees - except those who aren't IN the group.

24 posted on 04/03/2012 11:58:51 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

All the Republican politicians the Party had to choose from as an opponent for Hussein in November and they pick friggin’ Willard Romney, the ORIGINATOR of the most hated damned thing Obama has done during his Regime!!!!

Now THAT is a perfect example of the mind of the Republican Party—nominate the guy whose TURN it is, or the guy who has done the most FAVORS for Party leaders. In short, the MOST POPULAR DC insider with the Party elites.


25 posted on 04/03/2012 12:01:33 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: cicero2k

26 posted on 04/03/2012 12:21:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (QWERTY, ergo typo.)
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To: NTHockey
Can somebody, anybody answer the question I have been asking for two and half years now, with ZERO results: “Why was this massive monstrosity needed when we already had HIPAA (Portability) and CHIPRA (child insurance)?” Both are funded through 2013...because the real aim is not to provide medical care by having insurance companies pay for it, but to provide medical care by having the government pay for it - this will be accomplished by saddling the insurance companies with such expensive requirements as no limits on coverage and forced enrollment of those with pre-existing conditions, to the point that, there really being no Santa Claus, they will have to charge such high premiums that eventually very few will be able to pay and will finally go out of business - then of course your benevolent government will step in to save the day - probably by 2020 at the latest......
27 posted on 04/03/2012 1:39:16 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

I realize that is the real reason for DeathCare; however, the question I REALLY wanted to get answered was the coverage was there with HIPAA & CHIPRA, so why add another program. Perhaps your response is why no politician will answer the question.

On another note, why are we spending money on both DeathCare AND HIPAA + CHIPRA? Money we don’t have.


28 posted on 04/03/2012 1:53:48 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: cicero2k

America better wake up and realize their country is being driven into bankruptcy by scumbag politicians. We don’t even have the money to cover half of the current bunch of entitlements the government promised to people. Where do the supporters of this bill expect the trillions of dollars to come from to pay for it? Too many Americans have faith in this corrupt government and too many believe in a free lunch.


29 posted on 04/03/2012 3:14:19 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The preliminary vote was done. No one but the justices know this outcome. Then comes the writings and, yes, a justice can change their mind in the end after reading the opinions.

But isn’t there some hard fast rule on letting this information “leak”? Can’t the Chief Justice punish any of the others for a “leak”?


30 posted on 04/03/2012 3:29:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless.)
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To: EDINVA
Rush is saying this same thing right now, that O knew the internal vote.

In reading various analyses of the 3 days’ hearings, I also got the impression it would not be 5-4 but more like 6-3 or 7-2, or .. wouldn’t it be ironice? ... 9=0.

In the case of the latter, I suspect that AJ Kagan would have finally done the right thing, if only to cover her ample posterior, and abstained from voting, a last second recusal, if you will, thus 8-0...

the infowarrior

31 posted on 04/03/2012 5:06:48 PM PDT by infowarrior
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