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The Rebirth of Birthers?
American Thinker ^ | April 6, 2012 | William Sullivan

Posted on 04/06/2012 1:43:13 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome

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Stay safe, Sheriff Joe. And get 'em!
1 posted on 04/06/2012 1:43:18 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
"The discourse has already been cleverly manipulated, you see, to shift the burden of proof from Obama to his detractors. Reasonably, it should never have been incumbent upon Americans to prove that Obama is not a natural born citizen, but rather it should have always been incumbent upon Obama to prove to the American people, verifiably and indisputably, that he was born in the United States."

Exactly right. It is and always should have been incumbent upon "Obama" to prove his qualifications, not upon Americans to prove that he lacks such.

2 posted on 04/06/2012 1:50:38 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

This of course is without even getting into the foreign nationality of his putative father, presuming he’s *cough* telling the truth about even that.


3 posted on 04/06/2012 1:52:06 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Just watched the entire Corsi presentation to Tea Parties in New Jersey over at WND. Appeared to be a packed house. It was fantastic!


4 posted on 04/06/2012 2:12:50 AM PDT by sueQ (SueQ)
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To: sueQ

If you have a link to that, I’d be much interested in seeing it.

I watched the entire 2-hour Surprise Arizonal Tea Party conference that Sheriff Joe appeared at on 31 March. Would that every American who cares about the integrity of our government would do so also. My understanding is that there were about 1,000 people there. I loved the reaction of the crowd at 1:20:00 into the video when Mike Zullo says “I don’t even know what you’d call this” and a woman from the crowd responds “A felony!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uICO4l5PRcs&feature=youtu.be


5 posted on 04/06/2012 2:56:57 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

this is starting to unravel......GOOD


6 posted on 04/06/2012 2:57:21 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: sueQ

Wait. I’m really not that lazy. ;)

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/new-sheriff-calls-for-roundup-of-obama-records/?cat_orig=us


7 posted on 04/06/2012 2:59:50 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Other interesting tid bits from this Investigation is the Immigration Policy In Hawaii at the time The Marxist was brought into the US illegally. Check it out, Hawaii was letting Illegals into their state to work on farms, and Get this they were issuing Certificates of Live Births! There is a Reason Hawaii will not let this info out and its not just about the Illegal Marxist Obama


8 posted on 04/06/2012 3:22:22 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: The Wizard

“this is starting to unravel......GOOD”
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I wish to God that were true, but I see nothing more then
a collective yawn from the media, and even the public.
I do not think they even care if he is a citizen of Kenya, and the media probably knows that he is an illegal POTUS.

The public has been well conditioned to believe that us birthers are nothing more then far out kooks, or space cadets.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 3:36:40 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I agree with you, the public will pay a steep price for not loving and protecting the country that has provided much for them. They will wish for the days when they could of, but did nothing and laughed at thoes who tried.


10 posted on 04/06/2012 3:53:57 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

BUMP


11 posted on 04/06/2012 4:04:42 AM PDT by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: reefdiver

... the public will pay a steep price for not loving and protecting the country that has provided much for them...
______________________________________________________

Yes, they will, but they have no clue about life in a socialist country.
The havenots assume that they will get their “FAIR share”
even if they sit on their butts all day, and crank out more welfare babies.
The true Americans will be able to only watch as the sun sets on the once great country.


12 posted on 04/06/2012 4:07:12 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

there are FOUR components required to prove eligibility to assume the office of the President.

1. 35 years of age or older
2. 14 years in the country
3. born on US soil
4. born of TWO US citizens

the birth certificate yields TWO of these.
date of birth... and location.

assuming we can show 0bama was in the country for 14 years...

that only leaves #4 ... citizenship of BOTH parents.

as everyone knows, 0bama’s father was NEVER a US citizen ... therefore, 0bama cannot be a NATURAL BORN citizen. at best, he is a US citizen and british by descent.

there is no other way to see this. anyone that says otherwise is just ignorant


13 posted on 04/06/2012 4:30:02 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: AlexW; The Wizard; LucyT; sueQ
"“this is starting to unravel......GOOD”

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I wish to God that were true, but I see nothing more then a collective yawn from the media, and even the public. I do not think they even care if he is a citizen of Kenya, and the media probably knows that he is an illegal POTUS.

The public has been well conditioned to believe that us birthers are nothing more then far out kooks, or space cadets."

Actually, I think that this issue is approaching MSM escape velocity.

LucyT: Other Sheriffs Taking Notice of this Issue at the link in #7 ping.

14 posted on 04/06/2012 4:47:27 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
What don’t they want us to see?
15 posted on 04/06/2012 4:51:10 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

It’s too bad that many personalities on the right staked out that to question Obama’s lack of openness about his past is “nutter” territory. Others have been silent. It’s amazing that they have been basically lock step about it. I wonder what spooked them? Never cared for Glenn Beck from the start, but after I heard him interviewed by Peter Boyles in 2010 about this issue, I couldn’t stomach or trust anything he says. Ben Shapiro is minor league, but same goes for him now. The people that stay silent maybe are cowards, but I can’t tolerate the people that come right out and denigrate the ones that want to see this occupiers’ documents. To denigrate people that are actually doing something to prove he is the fraud that we know he is. We’ve known it from the start, but he’s been allowed to get away with it and they have been his enablers.


16 posted on 04/06/2012 5:31:44 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

A well placed cough that is, I would say there is ample room for doubt on the question of paternity to say nothing of (cough) maternity. Origins are suspect, to say the least.


17 posted on 04/06/2012 5:33:57 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Diogenesis
This is a photoshop, I think.

But it's just as real as anything Barry has produced to prove he's an American citizen, or not.


18 posted on 04/06/2012 5:43:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: reefdiver

The country is going Bankrupt. Change his name to Bankrupt H. Obama!


19 posted on 04/06/2012 5:57:15 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

bump for later VIEWING!


20 posted on 04/06/2012 5:57:32 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...but I love the United States of America.)
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To: Travis McGee
I wonder if this online image would be sufficient to obtain a passport?

Gangsta Govment, yo.

21 posted on 04/06/2012 6:50:06 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

This author is so tepid. Still vaguely worried about being called a birther but finally acquiesces to being called one at the end of the article.

We are WAY past that point. Crimes have been committed and it is ALMOST impossible that Obama is not involved

Some people are still dancing around some stupid label that they are afraid of.

I’m also a bit tired of the “wet blanket” or “Eeyore” posters. Eeyore is generally characterized as a pessimistic, gloomy, and depressed.

This is supposed to be an activist site and Eeyorss don’t win wars.

Sheriff Joe is the law and has taken the lead. Support him.

(Flotsam_Jetsome this post is not directed at you)


22 posted on 04/06/2012 7:00:10 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
From my Senator:

January 15, 2009

Dear _____:

Thank you for contacting me about President-Elect Barack Obama's citizenship. I appreciate knowing of your concerns.

The Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." Hawaii became a territory of the United States in 1898 and was officially admitted as a State in 1959.

It is my understanding that President-Elect Obama has released an official copy of his birth certificate. Since he was born in 1961 in Hawaii, he is eligible under the Constitution to run for and hold the office of President of the United States. In addition, President-Elect Obama's birth records have been certified and validated by the Hawaii Department of Health as well as by experts from the University of Pennsylvania. The U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear the case and agreed with the lower courts' rulings that the plaintiffs lacked standing to bring the legal challenges questioning President-Elect Obama's citizenship

Again, thank you for contacting me. Should you have any additional questions or comments, please do not hesitate to let me know.

Sincerely,

United States Senator

23 posted on 04/06/2012 7:19:19 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

What ever else is eventually found... posting the obvious forgery was a fraud, and a crime. Obama should be removed from office and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.


24 posted on 04/06/2012 5:14:40 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: sueQ
"Just watched the entire Corsi presentation to Tea Parties in New Jersey over at WND. Appeared to be a packed house. It was fantastic!"

I just finally finished watching the Corsi presentation also. Great stuff. You don't get a feel for how many people were in attendance until about the 1:43:00 minute mark, when the camera shot pulls back to show more of the room.

For those who haven't seen it yet, it can be found here.

25 posted on 04/06/2012 6:27:16 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Weird I did a search for the exact title and it did not come up.


26 posted on 04/06/2012 9:20:14 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: sten

Petitioner – a citizen of the United States and a Registered Write-In Candidate for President of the United States – filed on January 3, 2012, both as ex relator the United States and individually, a quo warranto suit against Barack Hussein Obama, II, challenging his Article II, §1 eligibility to hold the office of President in so much as his Father was not
a United States Citizen. The District Court to date has refused to rule upon that Petition.

http://www.montgomeryblairsibley.com/library/SCOTUSPetition.pdf


27 posted on 04/06/2012 9:24:45 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/hollywood-producer-heard-bill-clinton-say-obama-ineligible/


28 posted on 04/06/2012 9:49:50 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Well ... I couldn't have said it better myself.

Obama's record is hard to find.
Think about this.
Here's something to ponder. Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.

8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to me that the DNC knew that Obama was born in Kenya.
Read it for yourself.
Then look at these links.
Just before the 2008 election Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.

Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were 8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED! Read INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!




In summary as stated by WhiskeyX

Ponder that!
29 posted on 04/06/2012 10:08:22 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Lucky9teen
"Weird I did a search for the exact title and it did not come up."

Computers do weird stuff all the time. I'm gratified that someone else thought the piece worth posting also.

30 posted on 04/07/2012 1:26:53 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Yosemitest
". . . And if that makes me a birther, then so be it."

I think that this is why especially since Sheriff Joe's CCP released their initial findings and people (like me) have been telling their friends, neighbors and people they meet about it, that it's gaining momentum. It's not crazy or unreasonable to want to know with clarity just what this guy's story really is.

"Ponder that!"

Thanks for putting that information up again. As far as "food for thought" goes, that's a veritable feast! The fact that Congress waded into the NBC issue so many times in such a short period of time is highly suspect to say the least.

31 posted on 04/07/2012 1:32:38 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Thank you for the recognition.
All of that information has been linked, and is the work of others.
But I put the links together, keep them on a notepad, and post them when I want people to have a quick reference to them.

I just hope they use these facts, and pass them along to others.
32 posted on 04/07/2012 2:17:53 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest
You deserve a huge amount of respect for collating such a treasure trove all in one piece. BTW, I went back and read this post of yours. You're right, it was a very lengthy read along with the article that was the subject of that thread in the first place. I read it all.

We're in very deep doo doo.

33 posted on 04/07/2012 3:18:43 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Yosemitest
One last observation before I stop over-pinging to my own thread: The sample Certificate of Citizenship would appear to be half typed, half handwritten, would it not?

Just sayin'.

34 posted on 04/07/2012 3:56:31 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Thank you again. I don't know if you're religious or not, but this has all been foretold.
Just click on these pamphlets.
And, if you want to read a book, check out
35 posted on 04/07/2012 4:08:22 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
I think so. I tried to enlarge it in my post, to better read it, but it still came out fuzzy.
Looking at my post #20, the form looks like it's printed long-hand to look nice, and filled in hand writing on the blank lines.
By the way, ask school kids today, if they'[re learning how to read and write in long hand.
Very few are, and that's another way liberals are stealing their ability to read our history, as most of it is NOT typed or printed.
36 posted on 04/07/2012 4:15:20 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: GBA

that letter means jack and shows the senator to lack a basic understanding of Article 2 section 1.

being born on US soil grants US citizenship. this is not in question. to be eligible to hold the office of President, one must also be a NATURAL BORN citizen. this would be someone who was a US citizen naturally, as there is no alternative... meaning, BOTH parents were US citizens at the time of birth.

if this was not the case, then any anchor baby could be President with two foreign national parents. obviously, this goes against the plainly worded Article 2 section 1.

ask your senator (please tell us which one) whether or not he understands such a simplistic definition. if he does not, then he is unfit to uphold the oath he took upon taking office.


37 posted on 04/07/2012 9:13:17 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
That was from Senator Richard Burr, way back when the party was just getting started.

I guess that was more or less the official response to people questioning obama's eligibility. I heard people in other states received a similar form letter.

I was hoping for a better, maybe more Constitutional response from the republicans, but instead it was a 'the fix is in' moment for me.

Just wonder what 'the fix' is...shouldn't have to wait much longer to find out.

From one frog to another, does the water seem hot to you?

38 posted on 04/07/2012 10:41:46 PM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: GBA
A little more thought on "Progressive" RINO Senator Richard Burr's Jan 15, 2009 statement from here.
So you wonder what the "fix" was. Remember that at that time the Senate was in a Democrat majority, hence the Democrats chose who sat on the Committee Seats.
Then look at all the 2009 federal stimulus funding earmarked for NC the bought RINO Senator Richard Burr's support to cover up Obama's Kenyian Birth.

Here's some more old information.
Consider these witnesses:

Case CLOSED!!!

Now ... think about it.

39 posted on 04/08/2012 12:19:21 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest
"Ed Hale, aprivate investigator in Hawaii, has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obama’s father and mother, which indicates they had “one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.”"

Ed Hale is not a private investigator. At the time he was a cattle rancher in Texas. Ed Hale HIRED a private investigator in Hawaii who was paid by the plains radio listeners. IIRC, The investigator was to make three copies. One copy was to be sent to Ed Hale, the other two to the two people who donated the most for the investigator. Either the investigator was to make three copies, or Ed was to make copies and send them to the top donators so they could view the documents before they became public.

40 posted on 04/08/2012 1:55:40 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Thanks for the update.
What other information can you add?
41 posted on 04/08/2012 4:12:05 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Among other things, I am a birther.


42 posted on 04/08/2012 4:16:24 PM PDT by FryingPan101
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To: sten
there are FOUR components required to prove eligibility to assume the office of the President.

What about failing to register for the selective service?

43 posted on 04/08/2012 4:21:21 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Yosemitest

I was at both Sheriff Joe pressers.....I’m actually in the 2nd Surprise Video ax’n a question.

let me say sheepishly, Obama is caught.Fact.


44 posted on 04/08/2012 5:06:38 PM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; ...

in case you missed it ping


45 posted on 04/08/2012 8:09:38 PM PDT by bitt (“There are only two races of men: the decent and the indecent.” —Viktor Frankl, survivor, Nazi co)
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To: bitt

Since there are no known networks of childhood friends from Obama’s past, Obama was probably a member of a Marxist sleeper cell funded by wealthy men with a Marxist view of the World.

The lack of credible evidence that has NOT been forged requires a long-term, highly skilled and well-funded support group.

Who the key members of Obama’s probable support group and probable sleeper cell were and are is well known to the CIA and the FBI.

Will the “Citizen Journalists such as Breitbart Editor Joel Pollack be able to out-spy these two tax-funded spy entities?

BTW, forget about the LAM, (Liberal Agenda Media), as they are saving their notes to write their tell-all Obama books after Obama has SAFELY retired back home in Kenya.

BTW, BTW, to all the doubters of the above speculation: what does your gut tell you?


46 posted on 04/08/2012 8:20:21 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: FryingPan101
"Among other things, I am a birther."

You're far, far from alone in that. Thanks for your vigilance.

47 posted on 04/08/2012 8:36:18 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: LucyT; WildHighlander57; advertising guy; Brown Deer

Look at post 29 (particularly top part) and relate it to the material I gave you. First time I’ve seen it and my hands are shaking. OMG

Always wanted to buy/read book, but couldn’t find it at any of our local bookstores or library.

Please keep any further discussion on frmail between us.


48 posted on 04/08/2012 8:42:46 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: advertising guy
I hope so.
My speculation is that when he rushed home just before his grandmother died and after his grandmother's death in Hawaii, he went to remove proof she had in her home of his Kenyan Birth.
Here's another site that might be worth your time.
49 posted on 04/08/2012 8:42:59 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: hoosiermama
Try E-bay. Where's the Birth Certificate?.
50 posted on 04/08/2012 8:54:20 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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