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Penalizing for not buying insurance is not a burden, but insisting on free ID to vote IS a burden
Flopping Aces ^ | 04-06-12 | DrJohn

Posted on 04/06/2012 10:28:03 AM PDT by Starman417

The Obamacare individual mandate demands that everyone have insurance coverage and penalizes those who do not carry insurance.

The fine for not purchasing health insurance under PPACA is $95 per person in 2014 (or 1% of taxable income, whichever is greater), $325 in 2015 (or 2%), and $695 in 2016 (or 2.5%). Thereafter, the mandate is indexed to inflation.

But hold on, there are exemptions:

In addition, many people are exempted from the mandate, such as those for whom premiums exceed 8 percent of household income. Hence, as premiums increase, more and more people will be exempted from the mandate.

So those exempted not only won't pay the penalty, they will absolutely no incentive to spend a penny on health care coverage until they get sick and now they cannot be refused. Obamacare- it's like going to a bank and making a $1000 withdrawal without ever opening an account. Not long ago this was called robbery.

Never mind that the architect of this disaster now says not only will it not save money, it's going to cost a lot more:

In Wisconsin, Gruber reported that people purchasing insurance for themselves on the individual market would see, on average, premium increases of 30 percent by 2016, relative to what would have happened in the absence of Obamacare. In Minnesota, the law would increase premiums by 29 percent over the same period. Colorado was the least worst off, with premiums under the law rising by only 19 percent.

Never mind that none of the promises Obama made- keeping your plan, keeping your doctor, lowering premium costs- are worthless.

No, penalizing people for not having insurance is not a burden. Sheila-Jackson Lee, (D-Idiot), say it's a positive thing. In Rep. Jackson-Lee’s view, however, this language does not actually impose a penalty. Not only that, but it's like the civil rights struggle.

“I would make the argument, one, that instead it is an incentive to do right--that it is not penalizing because penalty is punishment,” Jackson-Lee told the Judiciary Committee.

“You’re not punished if you have health insurance, in fact. And so you are, in fact, incentivized to have health insurance, rather than take the negative which is to suggest that because we have a penalty you are being punished,” Rep. Jackson-Lee said.

“I am helping you. I am helping you not to have 26 percent un-insurance in the state of Texas. I’m helping children be insured. I’m helping diverse minorities be insured,” said Rep. Jackon-Lee. “And I know during the civil rights argument--even though we were arguing under the Constitution--there were many policy statements being made: Do we want to live in a nation that discriminates against a person because of the color of their skin? In addition to the constitutional argument, do we want to live in a nation where there are people being uninsured causing catastrophic costs unto the nation and others have to pay. I think that is the question that needs to be considered by the courts.”

And parking tickets? They're a positive thing too.

“But I also need to say whether or not it is more an incentive than it is a punishment,” said Rep. Jackson-Lee. “I am more inspired by incentive. And I welcome it being a parking ticket. We get parking tickets all the time, and no one complains about being required to do the right thing.”

Eric Holder has blocked the South Carolina voter ID law on the basis that it unfairly burdens some potential voters:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare; voterid

1 posted on 04/06/2012 10:28:16 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

What kind of health care will illegals get under Obamacare?
Will you need a gov’t ID to get health care?

2 posted on 04/06/2012 10:35:55 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Starman417

Penalizing for not buying insurance is not a burden, but insisting on free ID to vote IS a burden
If they can afford a voting hoodie then they can afford a photo ID to vote.

3 posted on 04/06/2012 10:41:17 AM PDT by CHEE (if I ever vote for another unconstitutional law I wish I may be shot. - Congressman Davy Crockett)
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To: Starman417
What kind of a country makes all citizens buy health care yet does not require all citizens who vote to show I.D. proving they are citizens ?

If I don't buy health care can I just claim I’m from another country and in this country illegally ?

4 posted on 04/06/2012 10:51:12 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk (The sheepdogs guard the sheep.)
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To: Newbomb Turk

I realize your point was facetious -

At the same time -

Maybe we can all claim that we belong to the “REAL United States of America” - you know - the old one - that had a Constitution.

Because this “new Coke” USA - would not have a Constitution.

Under Obeymecare - this government is illigitimate.

5 posted on 04/06/2012 11:19:21 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Dr. Ursus

Democrats Blackmail Coke and Walmart Over Voter ID Laws

April 4, 2012 byGary DeMar

If someone walks into a bank and says, “I’m John Doe and I want to withdraw $10,000 from my account,” I’m sure John Doe would be upset if it wasn’t John Doe who withdrew the money and the teller didn’t ask for identification.

Rep. James Clyburn, a Democrat from South Carolina is leading an effort to stop voter ID requirements. It seems that Coke and Wal-Mart support an organization that is pushing for ID laws and he wants. Clyburn is calling for a boycott of the companies, and the latest news is that Coke has caved by pulling support from the targeted group just five hours after it was called. Here’s what I think we should do. Let’s find out where Rep. Clyburn does his banking, claim to be James Clyburn, and when the teller asks for identification explain to him that if we don’t need an ID to vote we shouldn’t need an ID to bank.

Clyburn compared voter ID laws to segregation era “Jim Crow” laws. No, voter ID laws are designed to keep dishonest people from voting. They don’t have anything to do with Jim Crow laws since the ID requirement applies to everybody. There’s no test to get an ID, and blacks aren’t the only people who might not be able to afford to get one. If a person can’t afford to pay for an ID, the ID is free.

Democrats like Clyburn are political paternalists. They believe blacks are children that need to be coddled and made excuses for. In time, blacks begin to believe that they can’t do anything until the “Daddy State” steps in to help them. Booker T. Washington (1856–1915) had their kind in mind more than a century ago:

“I am afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.”

6 posted on 04/07/2012 6:39:34 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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