Skip to comments.McGrath: “The Control Grid is Being Put Into Place to Handle What They Know Is Coming.”
Posted on 04/06/2012 5:39:37 PM PDT by Kartographer
Excerpted from Charlie McGrath (video follows excerpt):
Youre going to see whats happening in the rest of the world come to this country. It Is Inevitable. It Is Going To Happen.
Do you think for one second Department of Homeland Security is ordering 450 [million] man shredder rounds so that they can sit back and plink at gofers on the weekend? Absolutely not.
Do you think this one internet bill after another, this trying to clamp down on the sharing and free ideas on the internet because its not good for people? No. The control grid is being put into place to handle what they know is coming. They already know this is coming. A kinder gentler government is on its way out the door. Par tyranny is whats on the menu.
(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...
And if you have to die, take a few of the bustards with you.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I dont add you to the list...
Maybe they're poor shots. /s
This just means I don’t have to get more ammo.
Ten minutes in and I’ll just use theirs.
I hope they put it all in one place.
But mine wouldn’t have the “Maybe” or the “/s”.
Depending on where it happens, it could take ten minutes to walk to where it's at after the shooting stops.
I myself have burned through over 2000 rounds of .45 ACP and 2500 rounds of 5.56 in an afternoon's shooting. These are not fragmentation rounds... which would shred tissue badly... but these are jacked hollow points and they are designed to exert all of their energy into the body... by utilizing their quick expansion properties... but it can be affected at range by heavy clothing and light armor.
One last point... the actual order for these bullets has a statement in it that says that they can purchase up to 450 million rounds at contract price... not that they will. This is a multi-year, ongoing supply contract.
Agricultuure Dept buying another 200M rounds
To suppress those seditious raw milk and home garden cults
Yeah. I suppose there could be some long lines there in (our) concentration camp. Could take a few minutes between sessions to make sure the next (our) group will fit in the trench.
Shelters Direct Builds Bullet Resistant Booths for Homeland Security
Press release date: April 4, 2012
Owner: Department of Homeland Security
Shelters Direct provided the Department of Homeland Security with this 4x13 Steel UL 752 Level 3 Bullet Resistant Booth.
This guard building features a standing seam hip roof, a thru-wall HVAC unit, (2) UL 752 BR Level 3 sliding doors, UL 752 Bullet Resistant Level 3 glass and a Low]E coating.
Other noticeable highlights of this prefabricated steel building include metal halide security lighting, decorative window grille frames, and a “Stop & Go” light with controls.
(I realize the source is - well, you know - perhaps validation can be found elsewhere?):
Bill Allows IRS to Deny Americans Right to Travel
Senator Barbara Boxers MAP-21 (Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act) is headed to the House after clearing the Senate last month. Boxers bill allows the federal government to revoke the passports of citizens the IRS claims owe taxes.
There is no requirement that the tax payer be guilty of or even charged with tax evasion, fraud, or any criminal offense only that the citizen is alleged to owe the IRS back taxes of $50,000 or more, reports The Daily Economist.
In other words, the Fourth Amendment will become irrelevant in many taxes cases if this legislation makes it through the House. MAP-21 does, however, face opposition by some Republicans.
When they come to the swamp for me a few of them won’t come back out.
why doesn’t some one pose the question to obama, about what all the rounds are for? you’d think we were talking about the fraudulent birth certificate, or the preponderance of black on black crime as compared to white on black crime, or sumthin’ wt*?
They've got half a billion rounds of .40. I think we can come up with a half million rounds of .30 that says they'll never get close enough to use it.
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
*some* Republicans? Disgusting.
I’d like to know more about this.
I thought I’d seen it on FR:
Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers
CBS 2 LA CA ^ | 4/4/12 | unattributed
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:13:59 AM by Cringing Negativism Network
After clearing the Senate on a 74 22 vote on March 14, SB 1813 is now headed for a vote in the House of Representatives, where its expected to encounter stiffer opposition among the GOP majority.
Oops - and you even pinged it out. I’m really not paying enough attention...
Yep. People generally don’t know how much of the stuff you burn in any serious shooting.
Btw, is there still a sellers market for ammo like .45acp in the US? What about longrange hyper performance hunting ammo?
Kind of explains why the fantasy of 60 or 65 Republicans in the Senate wouldn't do us any good anyway. Dems could lose 10 seats and we'd still get this fascist garbage shoved down our throats. A lot of Senate "Republicans" are just Dems that haven't come out of the closet.
You have to be working pretty hard to go through that kind of ammo in an *afternoon*.
The government probably provides the ammo for the qualifying, but I suspect agents buy their own ammo for practice. And your example of ammo use in one afternoon hardly translates into a model of every gun toting agent.
I'd like to see how many personnel are actually carriers and have to qualify. There is a whole lot of information we are having to extrapolate in this debate. A lot of assumptions being made.
The biggest mistake everyone makes is that they take individual or a few examples and make that into everyone in the relevant domestic agencies. It is a fallacy of logic to go from the micro to the macro.
Big ol’ roll of tin foil there. The 450 million rounds of .40 short and weak are a ten year expenditure. Considering the number of Federal agents carrying a .40.... This works out to an average well below your average shooter...
It is a multi-year supply contract, locking in a price mark and it can be exercised for up to 450 million rounds. I am not defending the DHS and janet incompetano... but in this case... I do not see anything out of the ordinary. Now if the State Department, Department of Education or the IRS order 450 million rounds... worry.
Don’t forget the TSA... if they make a big order... really worry.
Damn Farmers, think they have the right to grow what ever they want!!!!
Where do they think they live? The USA?
A lot of Senate “Republicans” are just Dems that haven’t come out of the closet.
Again, I think there is just too much extrapolation from insufficient hard numbers (people / guns / usage) in this argument.
I know you’re not defending DHS or Heinrich Napolitano. But one must anticipate future actions by studying the people and their previous behavior. DHS, Janet and the rest of Obama’s secret police wannabes are not to be trusted with BB guns, IMO. DHS officials have not been circumspect in their belief that freedom of movement in this country is not a right. One (I can’t remember who, think he was TSA) actually stated that we had no right to free movement around the country.
So, my position is one of extreme skepticism anytime I see these people doing something like this. There is entirely too much preoccupation in the federal domestic law enforcement agencies with monitoring and regulating the day to day behavior of US citizens with no criminal background. All under the guise of catching terrorists that they refuse to go after.
I’m profiled as some sort of seditious malcontent who presents a threat to the safety of the US because I know the real law of the land to be the Constitution. Muslim training camps operating on US soil are essentially ignored. Which pretty much puts the lie to the claim all of this rampant confiscation of our rights is needed to combat *real* terrorism.
Most of these people should be disarmed, many should be fired, and some belong in leg irons.
I can’t disagree with your post. Dead on assessment. It is healthy to be skeptical... there are real and valid reasons to be on guard. I have read about this and talked with people that I trust that know what is going on and this IMHO is not as nefarious as it seems. That is just my opinion at this time but I... like you... do not trust any of the government. We have to be cautious... just look at the propaganda they sent out on the jobs market today. It was horrible... worst since last October... but they sold it as improving conditions and blue skies ahead.
Good news comrades. The chocolate ration is being increased from 30 grams to 25 grams.
I’m more in line with your thinking on this issue. The ammo they are talking about is +p+ full house rounds, frangibles. These are not training rounds. If you had people training with this stuff they would probably all develop a world class flinch for one thing not to mention its hard on the weapons and the backstops of your range. As far as I’m concerned let them train with this stuff. Most of them can’t hit the broad side of a barn anyway. Everytime they squeeze one off and do a squint and twitch OK by me.
If they do decide to turn their tender mercies on the general public I don’t think handguns are going to do that much good. Just remember distance is your friend.
Next step... Put up a wall just like the one they once had in Berlin.
I saw that. I want to know how many bullet resistant booths and where exactly they’re going to be placed. It’s one thing if they’ve ordered a couple dozen to replace old ones along the border (not that there’s any real security there) or if they’re going to be placed at my city limits sign to check my travel papers. Of course, I’d have to make sure my taxes had been paid in order to keep my passport. Inch by inch...
Ditto for all that other nifty gear that WE paid for.
ChildOfThe60s, all good Comrades remember that the Ministry of Plenty made a clear warning that it would probably be necessary to reduce the ration some time in April. To assert otherwise is doubleplusungood.
Not likely they’ll put up a wall. How would all those illegal alien DEMOCRAT voters get in here and...
They’re already here?