whether foreigner or native-born (vanity)

Bible ^ | 04/08/2012 | FreeAtlanta

[FreeAtlanta]

While sitting in service, I was jarred by a verse that we read about unleavened bread. It covered both foreign and "Native-born".

Exodus 12:19 For seven days no yeast is to be found in your houses. And anyone, whether foreigner or native-born, who eats anything with yeast in it must be cut off from the community of Israel.

hmm, so this whole natural born stuff isn't some uniquely American "racists" thing that our founders invented? Recognition of native or natural born is something people of other nations and people have always been concerned with. Why?

Anyway, I thought it was fascinating and thought many of you would, too.

[FreeAtlanta]

Here are more chapters that use the term native-born;

BibleGateway.com - Native-Born

Exodus 12:19
For seven days no yeast is to be found in your houses. And anyone, whether foreigner or native-born, who eats anything with yeast in it must be cut off from the community of Israel.

Exodus 12:49
The same law applies both to the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you.”

Leviticus 16:29
“This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: On the tenth day of the seventh month you must deny yourselves and not do any work—whether native-born or a foreigner residing among you—

Leviticus 17:15
“‘Anyone, whether native-born or foreigner, who eats anything found dead or torn by wild animals must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be ceremonially unclean till evening; then they will be clean.

Leviticus 18:26
But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not do any of these detestable things,

Leviticus 19:34
The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 23:42
Live in temporary shelters for seven days: All native-born Israelites are to live in such shelters

Leviticus 24:16
anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.

Leviticus 24:22
You are to have the same law for the foreigner and the native-born. I am the LORD your God.’”

Numbers 9:14
“‘A foreigner residing among you is also to celebrate the LORD’s Passover in accordance with its rules and regulations. You must have the same regulations for both the foreigner and the native-born.’”

[humblegunner]

I was jarred by a verse

Pity you weren't jarred by a verse about capitalization.

Like as in titles. As in yours.

[freedumb2003]

Dude! You are REALLY grumpy!

Complaints about capitalization in titles? really? Really? rEALLY?

I hope all is well in HG-land and you had a good Easter.

[Red Steel]

He’s happy when he’s most grumpy.

[humblegunner]

Complaints about capitalization in titles?

Not a complaint, merely an observation.

If one cares so little about what is posted here, why is the illiterate even posting?

This isn't Twitter.

[stuartcr]

What was the reasoning behind no yeast?

[freedumb2003]

I should have posted “your real grumpy” just to hack him off and, in doing so, make him happier...

;) :)

Let’s face it HG, we love it when you be happie!

[freedumb2003]

>>What was the reasoning behind no yeast?<<

Fear of a yeast infection?

[jjotto]

The Hebrew word is ‘ger’ and it is not really analogous to ‘natural born’ in American political usage.

The Hebrew word ‘ger’ has two usages, 1) ‘ger toshav’ stranger-sojourner - one who lives in the Land of Israel but isn’t Jewish, instead carefully observing the seven Noahide Laws, and 2) ‘ger tzedek’ - righteous convert to Judaism and full-fledged Jew.

In the verses cited, it is the second use of the word (’convert’) that is used.

There is another word, ‘necher’, that is used for ‘stranger’ but in English is frequently not differentiated from ‘ger’. This would be closer to the term ‘foreigner’.

[Former Fetus]

In the Old Testament, leaven (yeast) represents error or evil and sin. Paul warned the Church at Corinth that "a little leaven (yeast) leavens (ferments) the whole lump" (1 Corinthians 5:6). Just as a little leaven ferments the whole dough, unchecked sin will permeate and infect everything and everybody

The Bible speaks of leaven as something that "puffs up" things, and there are things in our lives and hearts that can "puff us up" too, including vanity, greed, wicked thoughts, and more. The preparations for this special time calls the Jews to meditate on what may be puffing up their lives, while they physically remove "puffing agents" and puffy baked goods from their cupboards.

Fermentation (leavening) also talks about false doctrine. The Lord said to His disciples "Beware of the leaven (false doctrine) of the Pharisees" (Matthew 16:6; Mark 8:15).

Finally, yeast/leaven represents decay, i.e. the grave.

[FreeAtlanta]

One reason is to teach people about how easy it is to sin. Yeast is used to represent sin and you have to remove the yeast out of your house and life for a week to physically represent removing sin from your whole life. A little yeast affects the whole loaf as in a little sin can corrupt the whole individual.

I imagine it is harder to follow unleavened bread today than it was in old Israel. We are surrounded by rolls, muffins, pancakes, hamburgers... It might be like life in general. We have a lot more temptations to avoid today (bad movies, filth on the internet, etc).

Another big reason has to to with remembering the quick departure from Egypt and what God did to bring his people out of slavery.

I guess there are other things, too. I wouldn’t be surprised if it also had a hygiene reason. God set down a lot of rules that improved the lives of his people. Not all were understood. Modern science has shone several to have great merit (not eating pork or shrimp, handling of unclean clothing and people with disease)

[FreeAtlanta]

I am sorry I offended you Mr. Humble Gunner

I just copied the line right out of the Bible verse. I intentionally did not capitalize it.

[FreeAtlanta]

Thanks jjotto,

Your reply was an interesting read.

[FreeAtlanta]

That was a great reply. I would like to add that many Christian sects and individuals also practice the week of unleavened bread.

It is humbling to think you have your pantry and house cleaned, then a few days later, find a cheese cracker or gold fish. Or, sometime during the week, carelessly be eating a danish that was brought into the office break room.

It really can help you focus on how easy it is to sin anytime throughout the year. It is like teaching a child to count by using counting blocks.

[humblegunner]

I am sorry I offended you

Oh, you didn't offend me. Does it offend you when someone writes poorly?

Or does it just cause you to feel pity for their ignorance and apathy?

I intentionally did not capitalize it.

Ah. Willful apathy then.

It's nice to know you think so little of this forum.

[humblegunner]

Let’s face it HG, we love it when you be happie!

[WildHighlander57]

Humblegunner,

Oh boy, I remember those two! I suffered through episodes when my son just HAD to see it :0

Back on topic, interesting reading, about how ancient Israel handled things in regards to citizenship.
They had the equivalent of natural born citizens and permanent residents .... hmmmm where did Philistines fit in...I think they were booted out when the Israelites first got to their new land (?)

[WildHighlander57]

FreeAtlanta,

Meant to include you on the previous post.

Great catch, back in ancient Israel there were natural born citizens, as well as resident aliens (”foreigners “) Would Philistines = illegals?

[scrabblehack]

The bread of haste.

[stuartcr]

Makes sense