Skip to comments.Union says average teacher with a master's degree makes less than $12k a year after deductions
Posted on 04/09/2012 4:56:17 PM PDT by MichCapCon
The Michigan Education Associations newest strategy is to portray their teachers as underpaid while hoping no one is paying attention to the figures they are using to make their case, says one education policy expert.
Clearly, their facts are not straight, said Michael Van Beek, education policy director at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
It started when Steve Cook, the MEAs president, said in a Detroit News op-ed that one teacher who contacted him was in his second year of teaching with a masters degree and made $31,000 a year.
Michigan Capitol Confidential looked at the contracts of the lowest-paying school districts in the state and couldnt find a contract that paid a second-year teacher with a masters degree $31,000 a year.
However, in an interview with another newspaper, Doug Pratt, the MEA's spokesman, took what Cook described as the salary of one teacher and turned that $31,000 into the average salary of a second-year teacher with a masters degree.
Its hard to imagine any second-year teacher with a masters degree earning $31,000 a year in Michigan, much less it being the statewide average. Consider that Eau Claire has the lowest average teachers salary in the state. The Eau Claire teachers contract states a second-year teacher with a masters degree made $34,385 a year in 2010-11. And districts like the Troy School District pay a second-year teacher with a masters degree $49,132 in 2011-12.
Neither Pratt nor Cook responded to an email seeking comment.
Pratt told the Livingston Daily News that the average second-year Michigan teacher with a master's degree currently takes home $500 every two weeks after taxes and employee health care and pension deductions, and if he or she opts for a deduction toward child care.
In the article, Pratt is attributed with saying that current school employees pay 3.9 percent of their salary toward retirement benefits. James Hohman, a fiscal policy analyst at the Mackinac Center, said teachers contribute on a sliding scale; up to 6.4 percent of their salary to the state pension plan and are paying another 3 percent of their salary for retiree health care. They also can pay up to 20 percent for health care costs under the new state law, but many districts negotiated contracts with lower cost-sharing. For example, that Eau Claire teacher would pay 10 percent of health care costs, or about $1,769 a year for the MESSA family plan.
Van Beek questioned Pratts logic of including child care costs and pension contributions when talking about how much after tax money a teacher has in discretionary income.
It (child care costs) is like adding your grocery bill, Van Beek said. Its a cost that you incur if you have children and decide to work outside the home. Its a cost everyone incurs one way or another. If you have kids you have to take on costs to take care of them. Just like you have to eat to live, you have to buy food.
Van Beek said that pension contribution will generate a yearly pension of about $30,000 to $40,000 during retirement and shouldnt be considered a cost, but a savings.
They can retire when they are 55 and have subsidized post-retirement health care benefits and have a defined-benefit pension that grows by 3 percent every year, Van Beek said.
Those are probably “Net” earnings, after Union Dues are deducted.....
Typical school year is 180 days.
Add back union dues before we talk.
In MI it’s 175 days for a school year.
BS....Our teachers are making $40,000 and up.
The average full-time public school teacher will see his or her annual MEA membership dues increased by $111.90, from $457.40 to $569.30 annually, a 25 percent increase.
These dues amounts are in addition to National Education Association (NEA) and local association dues.
12 grand and all the underage sex you can grab.
So, the main point I gathered was: Taxes are too dang high.
What a load of horse dung those numbers are. He should move here to AR, a masters in Conway will bring you $52k +, and it is a right to work state.
Even with the union numbers, they’re still overpaid.
You keep your nose clean, you work hard and do a decent job, and you’ll make more money as you gain experience and (hopefully) wisdom......are teachers immune to this rule as they are to paying for their own health care and pensions? A 2nd year teacher is still a puppy, Masters or no.
When was the last time that you met a union leader who was not a liar?
Maybe they shouldnt be paying union dues.
I started as a bachelors at 28K a year and bought a house and supported a stay at home wife and a daughter in a new house that I paid for.
It’s called a budget.
I don't know about the accuracy of that statement either since I know a gal who retired at the age of 48 and a guy who retired at 50........the gal was from the Waterford school district and the guy from the Detroit school system.
Conway, Arkansas, hometown of Joey Lauren Adams. I lived there 1079-1981. Loved it.
And many teachers can’t speak English.
I bet this is some "teachers aide" getting a sweet paid intern gig.
Look, personally, I think good teachers should be paid A LOT! But, the current system simply won't reward those teachers and places the shitbirds on equal terms with the stellar ones. Its the Union way.
I would love to see merit pay / bonus pay for good teachers; but they need to be judged individually based on performance against other peers and the "product" they are turning out; namely our next generation.
I truly loathe unions; they are parasitic.
Can’t blame someone working as a teacher in detroit for taking early retirement...
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