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So, tell me, who do we vote for? Romney=Obama=a vote for crimes against humanity
Holy Souls Hermitage ^ | 4/13/12 | Fr George David Byers

Posted on 04/14/2012 5:16:30 AM PDT by markomalley

So, here’s the website: http://www.cc2w.org/ (you’ve seen their great video). However, I’ve got a question: Who do we vote for?

Mitt Romney created the contraceptive/abortifacient mandate and Obamacare, both of these men reject the Constitution on freedom of religion.

Is it a matter of voting for vice presidents instead of presidents? Don’t vice-presidents just go to state funerals?

Two quotes from Evangelium Vitae of Blessed Pope John Paul II:

(1) When a parliamentary or social majority decrees that it is legal, at least under certain conditions, to kill unborn human life, is it not really making a “tyrannical” decision with regard to the weakest and most defenceless of human beings? Everyone’s conscience rightly rejects those crimes against humanity of which our century has had such sad experience. [EV 70]

(2) In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to “take part in a propaganda campaign in favour of such a law, or vote for it”. [EV 73]

So, basically, it’s a crime against humanity to vote for Romney or Obama as that is a direct vote for total war on children in the womb by these totally cowardly, anti-American, abusers of power out to harm children. Is one really better than the other? Really? Tell me why…


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1 posted on 04/14/2012 5:16:34 AM PDT by markomalley
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2 posted on 04/14/2012 5:18:03 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

it boils down to I would rather have Romney(gag choke)pick the next SCOTUS justice than the messiah.

lets wait for the convention and lets stir up that convention before we make that decision.


3 posted on 04/14/2012 5:22:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley

see sig line.


4 posted on 04/14/2012 5:24:51 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (I won't vote for Romney, period. Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still voting for evil.)
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To: markomalley

just say no to socialism in all forms, regardless of the letter (d or r) that follows the name of the candidate. a vote for socialism is a vote for socialism. period.


5 posted on 04/14/2012 5:25:21 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: Vaquero

All I know is Clinton, Panetta, Napolitano, Holder, Axelrod and Co. have to go.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 5:26:09 AM PDT by corlorde (Drone strikes: the preferred method of killing by Nobel peace prize winners since 2009)
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To: markomalley

The very people who need to be rioting are too civilized to do it.


7 posted on 04/14/2012 5:29:36 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: markomalley

Newt’s still in the game. Newt is pro-life always has been.

God’s bigger than Romney and Bama.

Pray! pray! pray!

Divine Mercy is not just a title!

Tho your sins be as scarlet.............


8 posted on 04/14/2012 5:29:51 AM PDT by billys kid (saying that there are too many children, is like saying that there are too many flowers Mother Tresa)
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To: markomalley

I’ll tell you what we do.

We still have seven months. We find a solidly conservative national candidate. We organise and build up a fund-raising apparatus and nationwide organisation. We organise drives to get this solidly conservative national candidate on the ballot in all 50 states. We go for broke appealing to conservatives (in all parties and independents) to vote for us instead of for Romney, while also articulating conservatism in a reasonable way to the masses. We also demonstrate the kind of rock-steady leadership that Reagan did that will sway many moderates to us, even if they’re not that naturally ideologically inclined toward us. then we win pluralities, if not outright majorities, in all of the states that Bush won, so WE win.


9 posted on 04/14/2012 5:30:15 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: markomalley

Totally agree. One is just as bad as the other. The destination is the same.


10 posted on 04/14/2012 5:32:41 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: corlorde

absolutely....

we do what we can until the convention, then in November vote out the messiah and crew.


11 posted on 04/14/2012 5:33:25 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Romney is the ‘Give us Barabbas’ vote.


12 posted on 04/14/2012 5:38:51 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: joe fonebone

I love the tag line.


13 posted on 04/14/2012 5:39:24 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: markomalley

It’s not over yet. Support Newt.


14 posted on 04/14/2012 5:41:17 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: markomalley

A year ago I was a ‘if Romney is the candidate I’m staying home Nov. 6 guy’.
But so much has happened vis-à-vis Zer0 and the E.O., foreign policy, economic policy that I don’t think our Country can last another 4 yrs. of Zer0 rule. Certainly not as we know it.
If I am alive come Nov. it might be the last election I do vote in and I want to make it count.

Therefore I plan to vote for Romney or whoever is the nominee of the Repub party.


15 posted on 04/14/2012 5:47:03 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: markomalley

Sometimes it seems to look like Churchill’s choice.
http://www.thenational.ae/arts-culture/books/lets-not-make-a-deal


16 posted on 04/14/2012 5:47:04 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Son House
Romney is the ‘Give us Barabbas’ vote.

in as much as zer0bama is ‘the messiah(sarc messiah)’I suppose you could look at it that way.....he certainly is no Palin, Newt, Santorum nor is he Colonel West or Cain....the GOP has wrangled this election to screw the conservatives...they just love to lose.

17 posted on 04/14/2012 5:47:57 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley

I have been here at FR since shortly after it started and normally in total lock-step with Jim R. However, I am confused on this one issue of the upcoming presidential election. I will put the republican party ahead of the democrat/Obama party anytime. I will vote for the alternative no matter the lack of difference. I see a glass half full rather than to throwaway an election as many did to the Country when Peroet ran against Bush to split the Party successfully.


18 posted on 04/14/2012 5:50:35 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: markomalley
Any one who thinks a Romney presidency will be equally bad as Obama has been is either blind, stupid, uninformed, or all of the above.
19 posted on 04/14/2012 5:51:49 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: mnehring

I wouldn’t quote or link to the Commie, rat ba$tard ‘The Nation’ and expect it to clear up issues here, or for that matter have anybody here read it.

that being said of the big 3, Churchill was the only conservative.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 5:52:43 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
ROMNEY SUCKS!!!!

but you are absolutely correct.

21 posted on 04/14/2012 5:53:58 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley

I’m voting for Romney and am not energized or excited about it nor do I expect to be -— ever. My vote is an anybody but Obama vote.

My stronger focus is on the house and senate. I pray we retain the house and take over the senate with a strong consevative majority. That is my prayer.


22 posted on 04/14/2012 5:57:21 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: markomalley

Unless a miracle happens to stop Romney, we’re all screwed. I’ve agonized both sides of Romney and cannot vote for him. Might write in my toaster just to make a statement.


23 posted on 04/14/2012 5:58:13 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: markomalley

Vote for the one who won’t veto as many bills from a conservative Congress, or at least be more supportive of Boehner, and who had 2 American parents and who wasn’t raised by communists, and who doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder against capitalism or individual pursuits, or who can’t say his son would look like a hoodlum, or who is not a Statist, or didn’t pal around with terrorists or who carries a torch for liberation theology.


24 posted on 04/14/2012 5:58:31 AM PDT by H.Akston (If I had a son, I'd want him to be like Brian Terry, whose death is being ignored by Eric Holder)
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To: Vaquero
"ROMNEY SUCKS!!!!"

You, too, are absolutely correct. However, after a year of trying, he's all we've got.

25 posted on 04/14/2012 6:03:42 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: navymom1
My vote is an anybody but Obama vote.

agreed....I haven't decided if I should use the old style clothes pin on my nose....or if I should upgrade to the springy kind??

26 posted on 04/14/2012 6:05:13 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

see 26


27 posted on 04/14/2012 6:05:50 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley

I’ll vote for neither.


28 posted on 04/14/2012 6:12:42 AM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: markomalley
Age has one benefit - experience.

Many of us have been through this exact same situation, although it was perhaps a bit better than this one.

After the euphoria of the glorious victories in 1994, a dismal 1996 faced us. Bob Dole in many ways wasn't a bad as mittens. But like anyone that has been in Washington a long time, his positions had shifted all over the place. Not as bad as McLames, but certainlly there were many troubling things in his words and actions.

So in 1996, just like in 2008, I and many others held our noses and voted for the least objectionable.

The only saving grace is that at least for the next four years you can truthfully say, “well, I voted against this SOB.”

29 posted on 04/14/2012 6:12:50 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name (e)
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To: Vaquero

I believe we may need to organize massive anti Romney Tea Party rallies at the GOP Convention. This could be the last stand for the Republic.

NO ROMNEY!

NO WAY!


30 posted on 04/14/2012 6:12:58 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Vaquero

I plan on using the same clothes pin I used for McCain, but there is no way I will not vote against obama.

I just don’t understand how anyone can think that Romney would appoint supreme court justices anywhere close to what obama will.

Sorry, but I have grandchildren and have to be pragmatic about it. I’ll play the hand dealt.


31 posted on 04/14/2012 6:13:11 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: markomalley

I don’t understand why some people feel the need to have others tell them who to vote for.


32 posted on 04/14/2012 6:22:32 AM PDT by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: norwaypinesavage
Any one who thinks a Romney presidency will be equally bad as Obama has been is either blind, stupid, uninformed, or all of the above.

Let's deconstruct this common, yet ill-informed, platitude.

We've seen what an Obama administration looks like. We've also seen what a Romney administration looks like.

Is there really that much actual, substantive difference between the two?

I'm failing to see where the differences are that folks like you assert must nevertheless somehow exist.

33 posted on 04/14/2012 6:23:15 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: H.Akston

I’m hoping when the idiot Romney appoints a Harriet Meyers conservatives can turn it into a Samuel Alito.

ABO


34 posted on 04/14/2012 6:23:41 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: H.Akston

I’m hoping when the idiot Romney appoints a Harriet Meyers conservatives can turn it into a Samuel Alito.

ABO


35 posted on 04/14/2012 6:23:50 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: navymom1

I will do the same.
...A Navy Wife

PS I am also thinking that, perhaps to an extent, we are looking for a POLITICAL solution, rather than a spiritual one.
In the time of Jesus, the people of Israel were looking for a Messiah....who would be primarily political. We do not need to make that same mistake. Only GOD can authentically restore our nation!


36 posted on 04/14/2012 6:23:56 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: markomalley
While Romney is not the best choice, the reelection of Obama would be disastrous. I fear the reelection of Obama in November might be the last free election in this country as Obama will like Hugo Chavez establish himself as a virtual dictator.
37 posted on 04/14/2012 6:24:51 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: markomalley

or you can jump out before reaching the cliff.

sure, it’ll be a rough landing... but you’ll be alive

i won’t be voting for either. the gop leadership MUST be replaced


38 posted on 04/14/2012 6:25:04 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: markomalley

FR supported RINO Bush over Gore and Kerry, didn’t they?


39 posted on 04/14/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Respectfully, us ABO people have looked at all evidence and find your list of “boths” to be colored by half-truths and distortions. Yet we shy from going into much detail on this given the hostile climate.


40 posted on 04/14/2012 6:30:20 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Vaquero

But the question I have for ANY who say they can vote for Romney —is Can the Ethiopian change the color of his skin or the leopard its spots? Then may you also do good that are accustomed to do evil.-Jeremiah 13:23. If both men are accustomed to do evil then how could a righteous man -or woman vote for either?It seems to me we got here by following the advice of the establishment —and voting for the lesser of two evils. And Unless I am mistaken Romney has a record of appointing liberal/”progressives” that matches the wise Latina and Harvard Kagin any day.


41 posted on 04/14/2012 6:33:09 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Second Amendment First
"I just don’t understand how anyone can think that Romney would appoint supreme court justices anywhere close to what obama will."
That's an easy one...just look at his record. There are no degrees of socialism that make it acceptable. My socialist is better than your socialist just does not work with me anymore. Socialism is the enemy of the constitution, and it does not matter what letter follows your name..... a vote for romney is the exact same as a vote for fubo ( based upon the records of each one ) and i will not put my name down for the advancement of tyranny in this country. My vote is like a bullet, and it is aimed at the heart of socialism, regardless of the candidate.
42 posted on 04/14/2012 6:33:45 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: running_dog_lackey
FR supported RINO Bush over Gore and Kerry, didn’t they?

But RINO Bush wasn't a chameleon.

43 posted on 04/14/2012 6:33:52 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

“I’m failing to see where the differences are that folks like you assert must nevertheless somehow exist”

I am hoping it is just bluster and holding out hope for the convention. No real patriot would do anything to help keep the kenyan in the WH.


44 posted on 04/14/2012 6:35:14 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: markomalley

I am a cashier and I deal with hundreds of people a day, and I am repeatedly asked by people who see others being rude to me “how can you take that and stay calm”? I say “I don’t let them steal my soul”. To be rude in return is letting evil win. I smile and tell them to have a nice day. It makes them more angry.

For me to vote for Romney would be letting a political choice steal my soul. I am anti-abortion, anti-Romney/Obamacare, anti-mormonism and anti-gay marriage. I do not want to compromise my soul for Romney who believes in all I am against. He is not a conservative, he is a liberal republican elitist cutthroat.

There is a division of church and state. Either you follow Gods law or you follow civil law. If you follow Gods law there would be no need for civil law because there would be no crimes committed. I choose to follow Gods law. I will not vote for Romney...period.

GO NEWT!


45 posted on 04/14/2012 6:35:38 AM PDT by mardi59 ( Go Newt!!)
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To: sand lake bar

Let’s see.

Romney nominated pro-gay judges who advanced the gay agenda in Massachusetts.

Romney raised “fees,” as well as more traditional taxes, in MA to the tune of ~$5 billion.

Romney supported and signed a permanent “assault weapons” ban in MA.

Romney pulled for and got a $50 abortion co-pay in the MassCare bill he also pulled for and shepherded to passage.

Romney specifically dismissed objections from the Catholic church and other groups about the universal applicability of the abortion coverage requirement in MassCare.

These are all documented facts. If you’d like to argue them, fine, you may futilely do so.


46 posted on 04/14/2012 6:42:24 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy
You listed quite a few of Romney's leftist failings, but you neglect to list even one of his conservative accomplishments, so I will do it for you:

hmm, let me think.....

Still thinking.....

Aw forget it.

47 posted on 04/14/2012 6:42:50 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Vaquero

“it boils down to I would rather have Romney(gag choke)pick the next SCOTUS justice than the messiah.”

Odds are it doesn’t matter:

13. Nominated 27 Democrats (out of 36 nominations) for judgeships in MA, many of them extreme left-wingers

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2870891/posts


48 posted on 04/14/2012 6:48:02 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: markomalley
Romney doesn't have the nomination yet, BUT if he does get it you had better vote for him and for every republican senator and congressman running for office. Right now Republican is all we have and we can force Romney, as we did bush on some issues, to go to the right. We will never be able to force Bozo to do anything but try and ruin the country.

Get a frickin' brain. I don't want Romney either but better him than another term for Bozo.

49 posted on 04/14/2012 6:50:32 AM PDT by calex59
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To: norwaypinesavage; Jumper

the level headed will understand that it’s not just about the person who will sit behind the Resolute desk. We must not forget the President’s cabinet, his advisors, and others that influenced his political ideology? For Obama we all have become familiar with names like;

Bill Ayers,
George Soros
Cass Sunstein
Van Jones
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Frances Fox Piven
Reverend Write.

Now we are still in the Primary process, and if someone is still pinning their hopes on Newt, or Paul, then by all means go for it. But comes Aug 27th when the GOP convention is in full swing, they need to start thinking about who will influence the Romney administration, and will they rather have different names on his list, or go another 4 years with the ones above?


50 posted on 04/14/2012 6:54:05 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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