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Tricia Wittmann-Todd would deny youth an authentic understanding of joy
La Salette Journey ^ | April 16, 2012 | Paul Melanson

Posted on 04/16/2012 8:44:27 AM PDT by cleghornboy

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1 posted on 04/16/2012 8:44:43 AM PDT by cleghornboy
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To: cleghornboy; A.A. Cunningham

Interesting that someone has been to heaven and back to see Mary weep. If you believe that, I have a bridge...

But, more of the very harmonious, homogenous teaching provided by the Rcc. No wonder the vicar from the CoE swam the Tiber. He went out from us because he was never a part of us.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 8:50:55 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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I personally like the harmonious teaching that "faithfulness, modesty, self-control, chastity" are related to the joy we have in the Spirit.

Those are words to live by, Dutchboy88.

3 posted on 04/16/2012 9:15:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The Holy Catholic Church: the more Holy it is, the more Catholic it is.)
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To: cleghornboy

Her hyphenated last name is the first clue as to the mindset of this woman. It’s all about her.

When heaven is a sure thing then sin becomes nothing.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 9:48:22 AM PDT by Jvette
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Marcie Dahlgren-Frost. Dahlgren is my maiden name, Frost is my married name. I’m single again, but I never bothered to remove the Frost. And I get compliments on the hyphen.


5 posted on 04/16/2012 9:57:40 AM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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I've always like Pope Benedict's quote:

where joylessness reigns, where humor dies, the spirit of Jesus Christ is surely absent. But the reverse is also true: joy is a sign of Grace. One who is cheerful from the bottom of his heart, one who has suffered but not lost joy, cannot be far from the God of the evangelieum, whose first word on the threshold of the New Testament is "Rejoice!"

6 posted on 04/16/2012 10:01:14 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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Dutchboy, your ignorance of Catholic private revelation is showing. You wrote, “Interesting that someone has been to heaven and back to see Mary weep. If you believe that, I have a bridge..”

My reference was to the Church-approved apparition of La Salette, where Our Lady appeared to two children, Maximin Giraud and Melanie Calvat, and was seen weeping.

True, as with Fatima and other Church-approved private revelations, the faithful are not bound to accept their messages as they must accept Public Revelation (Sacred Scripture). But it would be foolhardy indeed to reject what the Church has approved and deemed “worthy of belief.”

But here’s the thing, and please don’t let this upset you, because that is not my intent, I just don’t care whether you accept the La Salette apparition or not. I do. So do countless other Catholics.

And you’ll just have to live with it.


7 posted on 04/16/2012 10:03:50 AM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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To: ALPAPilot

That is....beautiful. So I will not ruin it with my own thoughts.

Thank you for sharing!

God love you ALPAPilot


8 posted on 04/16/2012 10:06:13 AM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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LOL, so much for preconceived notions.

Sorry, but I always associate the hyphenated name with a liberal, usually a feminazi type woman.

I stand corrected.


9 posted on 04/16/2012 10:06:18 AM PDT by Jvette
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I thought I was agreeing with you Jvette...:)


10 posted on 04/16/2012 10:07:49 AM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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Perhaps I should explain. That quotation is from the film Uncle Buck. And yes, she came across as what Rush Limbaugh would label a “feminazi.”

:)


11 posted on 04/16/2012 10:10:32 AM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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Now I am thoroughly confused.

Thought you were telling me that not all hyphenated women are liberal.


12 posted on 04/16/2012 10:25:28 AM PDT by Jvette
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To: cleghornboy
"But here’s the thing, and please don’t let this upset you, because that is not my intent, I just don’t care whether you accept the La Salette apparition or not. I do. So do countless other Catholics."

And you’ll just have to live with it."

I'll try to cope. And, you will have to live with the fact that this hogwash...like Medjugorje. Go to heaven, go to Bosnia, go anywhere you like. Mary is not here anymore. You are seeing demonic imitations.

13 posted on 04/16/2012 10:29:47 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Once again Dutchboy, what you refer to as “demonic” is a Church-approved private revelation/apparition. Since the authorities of the Church have found La Salette (and other apparition sites) worthy of belief, we Catholics really have no need of your approval nor do we seek it.

You are not the competent authority to judge the worthiness of an apparition site or a private revelation. Thus, I don’t care what you think. You’ll just have to live with it.


14 posted on 04/16/2012 1:50:01 PM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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To: Jvette

Jvette, watch the film Uncle Buck and look for the character named Marcie Dahlgren-Frost. The scene is a hoot. So is the whole film for that matter.


15 posted on 04/16/2012 1:53:31 PM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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All the same claims have been trotted out with Medjugorje and several others. Even your gang eventually called that a fraud. Continue to cling to such dreams and illusions if you must. The believers in Christ, alone, will continue to look only unto Him. We don’t need superstitions or vain imaginings to recognize our rescue. And, I’ll be happy to live with that.


16 posted on 04/16/2012 1:55:40 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Dutchboy, you will never convince me (or numerous other Catholics) to reject Our Lady’s messages. You’ve told us all how you reject the messages of La Salette and other marian apparitions. It’s time for you to move on.

You will not change my beliefs. You are not the competent authority. You’ll just have to live with it.


17 posted on 04/16/2012 3:23:20 PM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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I love that movie, though it’s been years since I’ve seen it and I don’t recall that scene. I will check it out though.


18 posted on 04/16/2012 4:09:45 PM PDT by Jvette
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"Dutchboy, you will never convince me (or numerous other Catholics) to reject Our Lady’s messages. You’ve told us all how you reject the messages of La Salette and other marian apparitions. It’s time for you to move on.

You will not change my beliefs. You are not the competent authority. You’ll just have to live with it."

Methinks you protesteth too much. I have already said I can happily live with Christ alone, and calling baloney on all your witchcraft. What part of that don't you understand? The Scriptures are my competent authority for calling this and your organization claims to be the competent authority for saying that the holograms are real. I'm perfectly okay with that. Just recall this warning when the curtain falls.

19 posted on 04/16/2012 4:19:27 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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St. Louis de Montfort assures us that, “The learned and pious Jesuit, Suarez, the erudite and devout Justus Lipsius, doctor of Louvain, and many others have proved invincibly, from the sentiments of the Fathers [among others, St. Augustine, St. Ephrem, deacon of Edessa, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Germanus of Constantinople, St. John Damascene, St. Anselm, St. Bernard, St. Bernardine, St. Thomas and St. Bonaventure], that devotion to our Blessed Lady is necessary to salvation, and . . . that it is an infallible mark of reprobation to have no esteem and love for the holy Virgin; while on the other hand, it is an infallible mark of predestination to be entirely and truly devoted to her.

[In his classic work entitled THE GLORIES OF MARY, the great Doctor of the Church, St. Alphonsus Liguori (1696-1787) states that ‘the intercession of Mary is even necessary to salvation; we say necessary-——not absolutely, but morally. This necessity proceeds from the will of God, that all graces He dispenses should pass by the hands of Mary, according to the opinion of St. Bernard, and which we may now with safety call the general opinion of theologians and learned men.’ (p. 129, TAN edition) St. Alphonsus quotes St. Bernardine of Siena’s words to the Blessed Virgin Mary: ‘O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of graces, and since the grace of salvation can only come through thy hands, our salvation depends on thee.’ (p. 144)]

The figures and words of the Old and New Testaments prove this. The sentiments and the examples of the Saints confirm it. Reason and experience teach and demonstrate it. Even the devil and his crew, constrained by the force of truth, have often been obliged to avow it in spite of themselves. Among all the passages of the holy Fathers and Doctors, of which I have made an ample collection in order to prove this truth, I shall for brevity’s sake quote but one: ‘To be devout to thee, O holy Virgin,’ says St. John Damascene, ‘is an arm of salvation which God gives to those whom He wishes to save.’

Your hostility toward Our Lady speaks for itself. You stand against Sacred Scripture and the Tradition of the Church. By insulting Our Lady you insult her Son, Our Lord Jesus.

I would strongly urge you to repent of this sin.


20 posted on 04/16/2012 6:23:43 PM PDT by cleghornboy (La Salette Missionaries in crisis)
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