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Attorney Larry Klayman's Statement on Florida Ballot Challenge Filed Against Barack Obama
obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ^ | 4/17/2012 | ObamaRelease YourRecords

Posted on 04/17/2012 10:52:35 PM PDT by rxsid

"Attorney Larry Klayman's Statement on Florida Ballot Challenge Filed Against Barack Obama
Via Email
Statement by Larry Klayman, Esq. on Florida Ballot Challenge

Mr. Klayman, Founder of Judicial Watch, Freedom Watch and the only one to ever successfully sue a sitting President, is representing Mike Voeltz, of Plantation, FL in his “Obama” ballot challenge.

I took this case on in my private capacity because it is at the epicenter of not only a major Constitutional crisis, but one of which most people are completely unaware, or they have allowed themselves to be convinced is merely a ‘sideshow’ promoted by ‘carnival barkers.’ Thank you for that colorful, but inaccurate imagery, Mr. Obama.

My work on the case representing Jerome Corsi vs Esquire, on defendant’s alleged attempted suppression of the “Where’s the Birth Certificate” book, made me aware of how outrageous the fraud of forged documents and stolen identity is. This is major; unprecedented for a (putative) sitting “President” of the USA. Even if that wasn’t the case, he would still be ineligible for the office, supported by his own admission that his father was never a citizen. Centuries of settled law established that.

So I looked at all this, looked at over 100 lost cases to date, looked at the solid opposition of Republicrat officials, media, courts, Congress, agencies, and still thought—I simply must do something. There must be at least one honest judge left in our troubled nation, one who will review the overwhelming evidence in a properly pleaded case and rule that this usurper doesn’t belong on the Florida ballot. We already have more than enough evidence to get Obama out—we simply need someone to do the right thing. I’ll do my part, if judges – and enough citizens – do theirs.

Why Florida?

•We can file in any one of numerous counties
•Quite a few of those counties are very conservative
•I like Florida, the third biggest state, which is electorally vote-rich, and where I have lived for many years, worked very successfully on the Gore vs. Bush and other cases, and know my way around the landscape—and the law – here. Indeed, I ran for the U.S. Senate myself in Florida in 2004.
•If we can knock Obama off the ballot in Florida he cannot win the 2012 presidential elections. It’s that simple.

Currently, the case has been filed, amended once, and is now in discovery. We anticipate interrogatories, fending off a motion to dismiss, and a hearing, with witnesses, evidence. We intend to rectify the injustice inflicted upon registered Democrat plaintiff Michael Voeltz in having an ineligible candidate fraudulently talk his way onto the ballot of the great state of Florida. In doing so, we will also benefit millions and millions of other citizens of Florida and our beloved nation. In the event we should not succeed in that mission, we will still succeed in exposing the crimes of AKA Barack Hussein Obama and his enablers, rendering re-election an impossibility, something the Republicans have so far been unable—or unwilling—to do.

I would also like to personally thank Sam Sewell, Project Manager of the Florida Ballot Challenge for his work in securing sizable contributions for our effort.

... "

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/04/attorney-larry-klaymans-statement-on.html


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HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?
1 posted on 04/17/2012 10:52:44 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...
Ping!

"Attorney Larry Klayman's Statement on Florida Ballot Challenge Filed Against Barack Obama"

2 posted on 04/17/2012 10:54:26 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

In America race trumps everything else, particularly if you’re non-white. So this has about a 0.0001% chance of succeeding.


3 posted on 04/17/2012 10:57:33 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: rxsid

Thanks for the ping!


4 posted on 04/17/2012 11:01:14 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Crucial

So this has about a 0.0001% chance of succeeding.


You’re right.

I wish I had the money I gave to Larry K. and Judicial Watch during the Clinton years.


5 posted on 04/17/2012 11:02:29 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Crucial

I don’t know...seems like more and more people are getting real sick of this half white fraud.


6 posted on 04/17/2012 11:04:02 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: rxsid; butterdezillion; onyx

I have come to the conclusion that there is a national security issue involved in this situation. It is the only thing that would trump law in this nation.

After going over my research, I picked at some clues and teased out the determination that Stanley Armour Dunham worked for the CIA. Obama may know something, gleaned from his grandfather, that would be so terribly damaging to national security that everyone in Washington, D.C., is walking on eggshells.

The fact that Republicans are so desperate to oust Obama through an election that they tolerate Romney, a pathological liar and self-professed progressive socialist to buy his way into the Republican nomination, is a measure of how desperate politicians are to get Obama out of the White House without causing a major international blowup.


7 posted on 04/17/2012 11:09:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: Aria
Ever so slowly, more people are finding the courage to challenge the fraud and total media fabrication known as Obama a/k/a Barry.

Question remains, will someone in a position of power to do anything about this fraud...actually stand up for the Constitution and rule of law?

“In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.” - Mark Twain (1904).

8 posted on 04/17/2012 11:11:38 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Question remains, will someone in a position of power to do anything about this fraud...actually stand up for the Constitution and rule of law?

They will, when they consider it politically profitable and safe to do so.

9 posted on 04/17/2012 11:13:54 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont
"Question remains, will someone in a position of power to do anything about this fraud...actually stand up for the Constitution and rule of law?

They will, when they consider it politically profitable and safe to do so.

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Indeed.

10 posted on 04/17/2012 11:15:34 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; LucyT; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
We already have more than enough evidence to get Obama out—we simply need someone to do the right thing. I’ll do my part,

if IUf IF

judges – and enough citizens – do theirs.

This "IF we can find someone ...." is where the damn thing has always broken down. Whether one thinks Obama is legitimate or not, the very least a rational being can say is "It is an issue worthy of our attention."

It is the constitutional duty of every state attorney general to address the issue.

11 posted on 04/17/2012 11:18:10 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: SatinDoll; hoosiermama

SatinDoll,

Re: 0’s maternal grandfather being cia and info damaging to national security-
I think you are onto something.
Could it be something to do with nuke secrets?
That was the big thing back then....


12 posted on 04/17/2012 11:24:47 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Kenny Bunk; Graewoulf

.

Thanks, Kenny Bunk.

Pinging Graewoulf.


13 posted on 04/17/2012 11:24:59 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: rxsid

Thank goodness for Jerome Corsi, the guys down in AZ, and others keeping this alive. The man is a fraud and absolutely should have never been president. It truly has been a disaster for our country.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 11:29:20 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SatinDoll

I think it shows just the opposite. Nominating Romney shows me they WANT obama to stay in office. At least it shows they don’t have the courage to challenge him.

I also think that’s why Sarah Palin didn’t run. She knew there was too much power there to defeat. This “machine” shut the Clintons down.


15 posted on 04/17/2012 11:29:28 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Terry Mross
This “machine” shut the Clintons down.

And that is saying something!

16 posted on 04/17/2012 11:37:43 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come.)
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To: Terry Mross
>"This “machine” shut the Clintons down."

Or is he merely the "Dirty Mop" boy slopping the way to make even her look acceptible?

17 posted on 04/17/2012 11:44:47 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rxsid

Eligibility is NO sideshow. When the Office of Chief Executive can be occupied by someone with no regard for the Law then none of us need to. Not a pretty place to visit, much less live there.


18 posted on 04/18/2012 2:21:29 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: beaversmom

I couldn’t agree more.

www.saltusa.com


19 posted on 04/18/2012 2:59:36 AM PDT by AnnieAsheFieldsUSA (www.saltusa.com)
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To: SatinDoll; rxsid
"I have come to the conclusion that there is a national security issue involved in this situation. It is the only thing that would trump law in this nation."

Without getting into just what the particular national security issue (or issues) could be, I have inevitably found myself in the same place. There are any number of reasons, from greed to apathy to fear for the safety of oneself or that of one's kin that can explain much of the complicity, both active and passive on the part of personages who could force the issue.

I've come to a point intellectually where the media, governmental, judicial blackout is so all-encompassing that the odds of it being such a near totality is statistically impossible. It's like the vote percentages that Saddam Hussein (heh) used to get in "elections" in Iraq. The only thing to my mind therefore, that could explain the lack of vocal, persistent pushback on the usurpation by patriots of prominence who would risk the safety of not only themselves, but those close to them to make the truth heard, is that they've been convinced utterly that whatever is in play, it is so dire that it would mean the end of the country, and in a bang, not a whimper.

$.02 no charge.

Thanks for the Ping, rxsid.

20 posted on 04/18/2012 3:35:35 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: beaversmom
The man is a fraud and absolutely should have never been president. It truly has been a disaster for our country.

I agree with what Ann Barnhardt said at Liberty First over the weekend: this is the biggest crime ever perpetrated in the history of humanity. And entire nation has been stolen and then used to further the cause of evil.

21 posted on 04/18/2012 3:54:49 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Ditto.

And the laxness of the secret service and breaches that have already been made possible - even the breaching of the White House itself - says to me that if the risk was just Obama and/or what Obama knows, somebody could have eliminated him by now if not before now. The Clintons are known for being able to do stuff like that. Obama has hidden all his medical records so an aneuyerism (sp?) or heart attack dart would have been very do-able for the Clintons, as well as fabricating medical records to fit the portrait.

I think the security risk is more than just Obama personally, because that would be too easy for somebody to simply eliminate, if they really believed the nation was at risk. Indeed, Obama has gotten for himself the authority to assassinate ANYBODY he believes is a threat to the nation...

What I’ve thought was a good possibility for what might be the national security risk is suggested by somebody credible now. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2871569/posts . It is very interesting that in spite of their talking about the evils of Wall Street, the dems have made sure that nobody is protecting the US against the real threats that the Wall Street fat cats pose.

I’ve asked my US representative what has been done to protect us from being blackmailed by the threat of economic terrorism such as what happened in September of 2008 (which the source above points out could well have been the work of Islamists and/or George Soros - citing comments to that effect by knowledgeable people). I wish I could get that speech transcribed so everybody could see it.

It’s been a couple months and I’ve not heard back from my rep...


22 posted on 04/18/2012 4:11:50 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: rxsid

We anticipate interrogatories...

I hope those interrogations include Pelosi and Harry Reid.


23 posted on 04/18/2012 4:13:48 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: rxsid
If we could only find a judge with the courage to say something like this in court:

"I would like to examine Obama's long form birth certificate for myself, so I will do the following:

"1. Subpoena Hawaii officials to send me a copy of Obama's long form birth certificate, both a certified paper copy and a copy of the one on microfilm.

Hopefully, President Obama and his lawyers will not try something foolish like trying to stop Hawaii officials from sending me a certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate, because the long form birth certificate on the White House website does not count.

"2. I will appoint document experts to examine the long form birth certificate to find out it has been tampered with.

"3. At the same time, I will check Obama's Social Security number by using e-verify.

"4. Then maybe we can finally resolve this Obama identity controversy."

24 posted on 04/18/2012 4:44:27 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: SatinDoll
I have come to the conclusion that there is a national security issue involved in this situation. It is the only thing that would trump law in this nation.

After going over my research, I picked at some clues and teased out the determination that Stanley Armour Dunham worked for the CIA. Obama may know something, gleaned from his grandfather, that would be so terribly damaging to national security that everyone in Washington, D.C., is walking on eggshells.

The fact that Republicans are so desperate to oust Obama through an election that they tolerate Romney, a pathological liar and self-professed progressive socialist to buy his way into the Republican nomination, is a measure of how desperate politicians are to get Obama out of the White House without causing a major international blowup.

Your post just woke me up this morning.

The wall of silence is not explainable, and it is everywhere in DC.

We know that Obama is tied into the Communist Party and that his actions are not anything they seem to be, but rather, are done to weaken this nation.

Your statement about the Republicans and Romney is spot on.

The truth will come out, and when it does, there are MANY people on both sides of the aisle that will be wearing orange jumpsuits in Federal prisons.

The fate of America is hanging in the balance.

25 posted on 04/18/2012 4:54:05 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: rxsid

sfl


26 posted on 04/18/2012 5:18:15 AM PDT by know-the-law
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
The only thing to my mind therefore, that could explain the lack of vocal, persistent pushback on the usurpation by patriots of prominence who would risk the safety of not only themselves, but those close to them to make the truth heard, is that they've been convinced utterly that whatever is in play, it is so dire that it would mean the end of the country, and in a bang, not a whimper.
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I agree completely. What is going on to too big and pervasive to be rationally explained away as just political corruption. I believe there is major national blackmail going on. Could be a WMD or something on that order, but it clearly is a national security matter. Obama is not to be stopped except by physical force in reaching his objective to destroy capitalism. The U.S. is being held hostage by active nameless forces and passive compliant traitors who are set on destroying it. I assign major blame to our armed forces for allowing this travesty to continue. The country is rotting away, from the inside out.
27 posted on 04/18/2012 5:24:58 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: WildHighlander57; SatinDoll
Death trumps them all:

Death of Clinton's friend
Death of Jack Wheeler
Death of missionaries/Christians in Kenya
Death of choir director in your home church
Death of ????
Who's next? Journalists? Oh that was “natural” causes.

If people around you are being killed, you keep your mouth shut, UNTIL it's safe to talk. Corsi and Sheriff Joe are making it safe to talk. People know things. They'll tell either of these two trusted men. They can then connect the dots and expose him.

Snitches of the world unite! Give your information to Corsi and the Cold Case Investigators!

28 posted on 04/18/2012 5:42:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: butterdezillion

They know who caused the financial meltdown. A few days/weeks after the 2008 incident. Was up in the middle of the night, couldn’t sleep. Ran across an article in a newspaper from India. It spell out many details. Was tired, bookmarked it, thinking I’d read for details in the morning. In the morning it had disappeared. Just like BO BC, college records, passport information etc etc etc. Just in time to give the lead from Mc Cane (sic) to Obuumer.

All I can remember was it was triggered in Asia.


29 posted on 04/18/2012 5:48:46 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: iontheball; Flotsam_Jetsome
"The only thing to my mind, therefore, that could explain the lack of vocal, persistent pushback on the usurpation by patriots of prominence who would risk the safety of not only themselves, but those close to them to make the truth heard, is that they've been convinced utterly that whatever is in play, it is so dire that it would mean the end of the century, and in a bang, not a whimper."

("It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents - except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness.").

Leni

30 posted on 04/18/2012 5:51:02 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: butterdezillion
It’s been a couple months and I’ve not heard back from my rep...

Perhaps he's still waiting for a donation to his reelection campaign ;-)

31 posted on 04/18/2012 6:33:39 AM PDT by varon (The patriots stand watch!)
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To: SatinDoll

Maybe the scandal is something like Fort Knox is empty and all our gold was used by the FEDs in collusion with the Dunhams and Obama, to buy something, say ransom for a private citizen or corporation from a foreign nation, that should not have been done?

Barry’s Mom was a “banker.” And now a CIA banker? All this is pure conjecture , I know, but as you say,there has to be an over riding reason why no one wants to take on Obama, on the merits of Article II.


32 posted on 04/18/2012 6:47:48 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: SatinDoll; rxsid; butterdezillion; onyx
I have come to the conclusion that there is a national security issue involved in this situation.

This is, indeed, a national security issue. The "natural born Citizen" eligibility provision of the Constitution was specifically included as a national security measure to ensure that the office of POTUS did not fall under the control of foreign influences.

Elements obstructing enforcement of this national security provision of the Constitution are subverting the very core of our Republic.

33 posted on 04/18/2012 7:39:18 AM PDT by TexasVoter (No Constitution? No Union!)
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To: rxsid

Read much, most won’t, so here is a nice slice for busy people...

“All from other lands, who by the terms of [congressional] laws and a compliance with their provisions become naturalized, are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.” (Cong. Globe, 37th, 2nd Sess., 1639 (1862)).

The above is a congressional declaration. I would assume that it carries a little more weight than Newsweek.


34 posted on 04/18/2012 7:44:06 AM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: SatinDoll; LucyT
“After going over my research, I picked at some clues and teased out the determination that Stanley Armour Dunham worked for the CIA.”

Does not compute. KGB yes, CIA, no way!

Frank Marshall Davis (FMD), a literal card-carrying Communist and thus a KGB asset and domestic enemy of the USA was a long term associate of Stanley Dunham and was a mentor of Barry. In the 1950’s before going to HI, FMD had been called befor the House Unamerican Activities Committee.

Counter-espionage in those days (spying on KGB spies in HI, for example) was the jealously-guarded province of Hoover's FBI, not the CIA whose charter was 99% obtaining access only in foreign countries (not within the USA) to foreigners and attempting to get them to betray their country by disclosing information helpful to the US president.

Neither Stanley, nor Barry, nor Barry's mom would have been let in the door of the CIA (Barry's mom married a sworn Marxist) but would have been welcomed with open arms by the KGB...and were, IMO. Ayers and his wife were KBG assets directly or indirectly with Dohrn going to Havana to receive KFB training from Castro's minions.

Barry's early 1980’s left-wing newspaper article spouted the Anti-American KGB line advocating unilateral nuclear disarmament just when Reagan was reversing Carter's surrenders around the world to the USSR, and Barry is STILL pushing unilateral nuclear disarmament versus Russia and China.

35 posted on 04/18/2012 8:19:41 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: HMS Surprise
Not only did Representative Bingham (father of the 14th Amendment) state that in the peoples house (to which no one objected to the definition), he stated it again, for a total of three times. The definition of "natural born Citizen" was stated in the House of Reps multiple times during the debates on the draft of the 14th Amendment regarding "citizenship."

“every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))"

No other Representative ever took issue with these words on the floor of the House. If you read the Congressional Globe to study these debates, you will see that many of the underlying issues were hotly contested. However, Bingham’s definition of “natural born citizen” (born of citizen parents in the sovereign territory of the U.S.) was never challenged on the floor of the House. Without a challenge on the definition, it appears the ALL where in agreement.

Then, during a debate (see pg. 2791) on April 25, 1872 regarding a certain Dr. Houard, who had been incarcerated in Spain, the issue was raised on the floor of the House of Representatives as to whether the man was a US citizen (generally. they were not trying to decide if he was a NBC). Representative Bingham (of Ohio), stated on the floor:

“As to the question of citizenship I am willing to resolve all doubts in favor of a citizen of the United States. That Dr. Houard is a natural-born citizen of the United States there is not room for the shadow of a doubt. He was born of naturalized parents within the jurisdiction of the United States, and by the express words of the Constitution, as amended to-day, he is declared to all the world to be a citizen of the United States by birth.”

36 posted on 04/18/2012 9:11:18 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: TexasVoter

Precisely!


37 posted on 04/18/2012 10:23:14 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Candor7
Barry’s Mom was a “banker.” And now a CIA banker? All this is pure conjecture , I know, but as you say,there has to be an over riding reason why no one wants to take on Obama, on the merits of Article II.

*******

The recent Secret Service prostitute scandal---April 2012--- in Colombia, South America:

This is what is so sad about that terrible scandal:

On the one hand, I bet those elite Secret Service personnel involved in the Colombia, South America prostitute scandal were subject to some of the most exhaustive background checks ever conducted by the federal government of potential employees, that is, Secret Service officials know what they eat for breakfast and the name of their 5th grade teachers.

On the other hand, compare those exhaustive background checks to the background check of their boss, the President of the United States, one Barack Obama, whose background is so controversial and so unclear that we can't be sure that he is who he claims he is.

For instance, was he born in Hawaii? Did he fill out his own Connecticut Social Security application when he was a teenager back in Hawaii? Did he really register for Selective Service? Did he or did he not register as a foreign student at Occidental College in California? And the questions go on and on.

And yet, come election day Nov. 2012, there will be millions of voters who will still vote for this presidential candidate whose history we know so little about.

Can there be a sadder situation than this seemingly never ending who-is-the-real Obama mess? Sad. Very sad.

38 posted on 04/18/2012 12:48:55 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: hoosiermama

Exactly, those in power want to keep it, sometimes by “ all means necessary”.

What did those folks listed all have in common, what did they know and was it about the same person?


39 posted on 04/18/2012 1:01:57 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: butterdezillion

Hmmmm, maybe somebody programmed a back door into the wall street servers, a virus going off would be worse than a nuke....
Or maybe its set to skim $ to 0 and his pals.

But then again, espionage gets people dead also.

Combination of both?


40 posted on 04/18/2012 1:16:31 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: hoosiermama

I need help cause of no pc skills....I have a link you need to read and create a new thread......I’ll send the link freep mail !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


41 posted on 04/18/2012 1:19:17 PM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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To: Seizethecarp; TheOldLady; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; ...
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Back to the thread; check out # 35 , # 33.

Thanks, Seizethecarp.

42 posted on 04/18/2012 3:33:12 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; SatinDoll
Carp, the Alice in Wonderland CIA/KGB "Looking Glass War" drove no less a man than James Jesus Angleton stark raving mad. The KGB broke the back of the CIA with fake defectors and caused an internal rift in the intelligence community that is not completely healed yet.

Yes Obama's Mama had some sort of intelligence lash-up, but those at our pay grade are never going to figure out what team she was actually playing for.

Go to a nice warm room, sit in a comfy chair with a good reading lamp, have an adult beverage, and re-read Anatoly Golitsyn's "New Lies for Old."

43 posted on 04/18/2012 4:24:49 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: hoosiermama

I know it was a long time ago, but is there any chance you’d be able to find out what the address was on that article? I remember reading shortly before the election that somebody had accessed layers of the internet that are hidden from most people and had found past articles by The New Party in Chicago, mentioning Obama as a signed member of the party. I wonder if a person who knows how to do that kind of thing could find what you saw back then.

I’m sure they do know who did it. That was one of the big points of doing it. Just like the point of 9-11 wasn’t to kill as many people as possible, but to hit our economy and alert the whole world to the fact that they are out there and dangerous.

I want to listen again to that speech and Q/A. Actually would be good to get the book. This guy has informed the government critters about economic terrorism and nobody will do anything about it. I’m thinking he started telling people about it after September of 2008 so if nobody would address it, it could be because they already knew who did it and that the communist-Islamist alliance had its stooge in the White House (and was thus in charge of the execution of all laws, agencies, law enforcement, etc). IOW, the manufactured crisis worked.

Gosh, there’s so much I’d like to do, to help people realize what a critical situation America is in.


44 posted on 04/18/2012 4:35:09 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: unkus
"I wish I had the money I gave to Larry K"

Glad I did a negative judgement thing on him from the git go. Met him in DC and Philly a few times. No thanks.
BYW, its true, he did sue his mother.

45 posted on 04/18/2012 4:51:31 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: butterdezillion

It was scrubbed before the sun rose that day. I’d give anything if I’d copy/pasted it but thought bookmarking would make it available. Dawn was just a few hours away.

As I said all I remember was that the crash was started by an action that originated in Asia.


46 posted on 04/18/2012 4:54:06 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: AGreatPer

BYW, its true, he did sue his mother.


I hadn’t heard. I don’t doubt that a bit.


47 posted on 04/18/2012 5:18:22 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“The KGB broke the back of the CIA...”

I would say that was a bit of an overstatement...until KGB got their deep sleeper agent into the White House!


48 posted on 04/18/2012 5:26:33 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
...bit of an overstatement...

Yo, thanks! Known for it, actually.

49 posted on 04/18/2012 5:33:21 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Seizethecarp
The Post-Angleton CIA took a nosedive, IMNSVHO. It almost when down for the count under the idiotic Stansfield Turner. Even Castro's DGI, a substation of the STASI, had moles placed at extraordinarily high levels.

Now the whole show has a strong Left-Wing aroma to it. Me no like.

BTW, one major thrust with the phony defectors that split the CIA was that the KGB was trying to convince us they knew nothing about Lee Harvey Oswald!

Paging Anatoliy Golitsyn!

50 posted on 04/18/2012 5:39:25 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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