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Vanity: Martin Family Attorney 'Dog Whistles' Violence Against Bailed Out Zimmerman?
Friday, April 20, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 04/20/2012 9:11:39 AM PDT by kristinn

Following George Zimmerman's successful bail hearing in Sanford, Fl., today, Trayvon Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump made statements at a courthouse press conference that sounded to me like veiled calls for violence against Zimmerman.

Crump repeatedly spoke about how the Martin family 'could not understand why the state was protecting' Zimmerman and used inflammatory language to describe Zimmerman getting bail. He also compared Zimmerman in a suit at the hearing to Trayvon wearing a suit in his coffin.

Crump is an officer of the court. He knows that defendants are presumed innocent and are afforded every measure to protect them during prosecution.

If I were involved in the case, I'd be moving to sanction Crump.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: benjamincrump; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmermanhearing
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1 posted on 04/20/2012 9:11:43 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Read my tagline.
2 posted on 04/20/2012 9:14:25 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Navy Patriot

3 posted on 04/20/2012 9:27:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: maggief

Thoughts?


4 posted on 04/20/2012 9:33:31 AM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: kristinn

I thought the same thing when he advised against the bond as a way to protect Zimmerman. Also when he was pressing Mrs Zimmerman if there were threats against her.

His concern was touching....not


5 posted on 04/20/2012 9:37:08 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK

I’m not talking about the state prosecutor, but the private attorney for the Martin family. He only spoke outside the courtroom.


6 posted on 04/20/2012 9:40:31 AM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: kristinn; maggief

Do you have the address to file the complaint with state AG for Florida residense?

Also heard that ABC just released a photo of Zimmerman’s bloody head, taken minutes after the police arrived. Any one see it or have a link to it?


7 posted on 04/20/2012 9:42:58 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: kristinn

If you took Zimmerman out by hanging him from the nearest light post, these people would still not be satisfied. They also called his apology “self-serving.”


8 posted on 04/20/2012 9:44:10 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: hoosiermama

What took them so long? Did this photo just recently come into their possession?


9 posted on 04/20/2012 9:46:48 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
Pass it around:


11 posted on 04/20/2012 9:52:20 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: kristinn

No I didn’t see him. I was talking about the state’s attorney.


12 posted on 04/20/2012 9:52:20 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: hoosiermama

I followed this thread during the hearing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874365/posts


13 posted on 04/20/2012 9:54:51 AM PDT by maggief
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To: kristinn

> why the state was protecting’ Zimmerman

Because this isn’t Zimbabwe (yet), and Zimmerman is innocent until PROVEN guilty.

The Martin lawyer’s tiny little mind with its turd world perspective can’t grok that.


14 posted on 04/20/2012 9:59:37 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: kristinn

I didn’t hear Crump’s comments. I’ve been looking for video.

Also waiting for comments from Obama’s “partner,” Sharpton.


15 posted on 04/20/2012 10:02:47 AM PDT by maggief
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To: hoosiermama

Looks like George’s head was about to split across the middle. What took these photos so long to get out? How convenient they were hidden until after the arrest.


16 posted on 04/20/2012 10:04:50 AM PDT by madison10
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To: kristinn

Obama looks up from his snooze...”Dog, did someone say Dog?”


17 posted on 04/20/2012 10:05:34 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: kristinn
"Crump is an officer of the court."

Crump is an officer of the court official RACIST FROM HELL.

There; fixed it.

18 posted on 04/20/2012 10:06:09 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: kristinn

Start here:

http://www.floridabar.org/divexe/rrtfb.nsf/FV/7D3C9D8F6365ADC685256BBC005190AA

RULE 4-3.6 TRIAL PUBLICITY

(a) Prejudicial Extrajudicial Statements Prohibited. A lawyer shall not make an extrajudicial statement that a reasonable person would expect to be disseminated by means of public communication if the lawyer knows or reasonably should know that it will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing an adjudicative proceeding due to its creation of an imminent and substantial detrimental effect on that proceeding.

(b) Statements of Third Parties. A lawyer shall not counsel or assist another person to make such a statement. Counsel shall exercise reasonable care to prevent investigators, employees, or other persons assisting in or associated with a case from making extrajudicial statements that are prohibited under this rule.

http://www.floridabar.org/divexe/rrtfb.nsf/FV/1535A73735C78F6C85256BBC0051BDCF

RULE 4-3.8 SPECIAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF A PROSECUTOR

The prosecutor in a criminal case shall:

(a) refrain from prosecuting a charge that the prosecutor knows is not supported by probable cause;

(b) not seek to obtain from an unrepresented accused a waiver of important pre-trial rights such as a right to a preliminary hearing;

(c) make timely disclosure to the defense of all evidence or information known to the prosecutor that tends to negate the guilt of the accused or mitigates the offense, and, in connection with sentencing, disclose to the defense and to the tribunal all unprivileged mitigating information known to the prosecutor, except when the prosecutor is relieved of this responsibility by a protective order of the tribunal.


19 posted on 04/20/2012 10:07:50 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: hoosiermama

This will route your questions or complaint to the Attorney General’s Office. Please fill out the form below and click on the “Submit” button. You will receive an electronic confirmation that your complaint or question has been received by this office.

http://myfloridalegal.com/Contact.nsf/Contact


20 posted on 04/20/2012 10:11:52 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: hoosiermama

Scalp wounds are incredibly bloody. One of my sons got hit in the head with a rock and turned up looking like something from a slasher film. Once the paramedic cleaned him up, he had a laceration no more than an inch long that they fixed with a band-aid.


21 posted on 04/20/2012 10:19:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Day 8 of the 17-Day Diet ... -7.6 lbs. from Day 0. (Please to excuse incoherent posts.)
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To: kcvl
This will route your questions or complaint to the Attorney General’s Office. Please fill out the form below and click on the “Submit” button. You will receive an electronic confirmation that your complaint or question has been received by this office. http://myfloridalegal.com/Contact.nsf/Contact

I used that link to send a complaint quite awhile ago, about the NBP threats and bounty, since they were uttered in Florida, and asked why it wasn't being addressed, and in fact, not a peep from any law enforcement agency, state or federal.

All I got in response, was signed up to Bondi's email newsletter. So, don't expect much.
22 posted on 04/20/2012 10:21:13 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: kristinn

[[Trayvon Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump made statements at a courthouse press conference that sounded to me like veiled calls for violence against Zimmerman.]]

He most definately WAS calling for violence agaisnt george- he was stadnign htere racebaiting, flaming the fire of racial hatred- he was also trying to continue having htis case tried i nthe media- He saiud ‘why is everyoen protecting george zimmerman’? Why? Because in this country, you’re suppsoed to be innocent until proven guilty- however, this racist lawyer apparently htinks that only applies to black people, not ‘white hispanics’ and he pparently feels that if you’re not black, you shoudl not be ‘protected’ by the court-

YES he callign for vuioplence agaisnt george- it was very evident, and hopefully gweorge’s lawtyer will point haqt out durign hte trial- or during pretrial to have htis caswe thrown out of court


23 posted on 04/20/2012 10:23:09 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: hoosiermama

Do you have the actual link to this by any chance?


24 posted on 04/20/2012 10:28:47 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: CottShop

I agree with the content of your post, but wow, that is some of the most cat-like typing I’ve seen in a long time.


25 posted on 04/20/2012 10:29:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Day 8 of the 17-Day Diet ... -7.6 lbs. from Day 0. (Please to excuse incoherent posts.)
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To: Tax-chick

My cat just informed me that it resents that remark


26 posted on 04/20/2012 10:36:30 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Have you fed your cat recently? Mine tapdance on the keyboard when they can see the bottom of their food bowl.


27 posted on 04/20/2012 10:39:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Day 8 of the 17-Day Diet ... -7.6 lbs. from Day 0. (Please to excuse incoherent posts.)
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To: CottShop

Please take your time when you type and please use the spell check option.


28 posted on 04/20/2012 10:43:07 AM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: maggief
I haven't looked at the CBS News video report yet, but they do mention it in the accompanying article:

After the hearing, Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump said Martin's parents were "very outraged" at the results of the hearing.

"It was devastating that [Zimmerman] got to give a self-serving apology to help get him a bond," Crump said. "Why is everybody protecting George Zimmerman?"

29 posted on 04/20/2012 10:43:17 AM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: All

Here is the Florida Bar listing...

Benjamin L Crump
Member in Good Standing Eligible to practice in Florida

ID Number: - 72583
Address: Parks & Crump L L C
240 N Magnolia Dr
Tallahassee, Florida 323012638
United States
Phone: 850.2246400
Fax: 850.2246679

County: Leon
Circuit: 2
Admitted: 01/18/1996

Here is his website listing (they have scrubbed his direct email from the site.)

http://parkscrump.com/attorneys/benjamin-crump/


30 posted on 04/20/2012 10:48:16 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: eastforker

listen,. I’m a mystery writer, so what fun would it be if UI took all the mystery out of my oposts by using spellcheck?


31 posted on 04/20/2012 10:53:35 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: kristinn

I can’t find anything about Crump’s post-hearing speech anywhere. It was like ten minutes after the hearing ended; the apology video is everywhere but the only quote from Crump is that Zimmerman’s apology was self-serving.


32 posted on 04/20/2012 10:54:43 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: DrewsMum

Right click and click on properties at the bottom and you will get this:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/ht_george_zimmerman_head_dm_120419_wmain.jpg


33 posted on 04/20/2012 11:03:28 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: kristinn

Lil’ Bennie is just following Shystering 101 Fer Dummies.

1. “When facts are on your side, pound on the facts.”
2. “When the law is on your side, pound on the law.”
3. “As a last resort, play the race card”.

Poor, ickle lawyer is running out of cards.


34 posted on 04/20/2012 11:03:32 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: kristinn

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2012/apr/20/george-zimmerman-bond-hearing-live?newsfeed=true

11.48am: Martin family lawyers are going after Zimmerman for his public apology. He waited until the media was watching, they say. Why didn’t he apologize earlier?

The lawyers say the witness stand, where Zimmerman gave his apology, is not a place for grandstanding apologies – it’s a place for evidence.

“This family, they were so so torn, so hurt, that they couldn’t even bring themselves to come here and stand, after they learned what they learned here in court,” a family lawyer says. “It has been a tough day.”

Reporter asked: any concerns about the evidence?

Crump says the prosecutor “appropriately held back” on evidence. They’re saving it for trial, he says.

Crump said the real George Zimmerman had “every opportunity to put whatever he thought was important in his heart on that web site.” He didn’t.

11.41am: Benjamin Crump, the lawyer for the Martin family, is appearing outside court. He says the family is “devastated.” He calls Zimmerman’s apology “self-serving.”

“They are devastated, completely devastated, that after nine days from the killer of their son being arrested, they learned today that he will be released. They have to accept the court’s decision. They pray that his freedom is only temporary, because the pain that he has caused this family is going to be permanent.

“Zimmerman makes this self-serving apology in court, 50 days later. The realGeorgeZimmerman web site never once said “I’m sorry.’ Why today?”

“All throughout the hearing, Tracy Martin had tears in his eyes as he watched the killer of his son. It was devastating that he got to give a self-serving apology to help him get a bond. They were outraged.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/media-releases-photo-showing-bloodied-head-of-trayvon-martin-shooter

“How bad could it have been if they didn’t take him to the hospital, didn’t stitch him up,” attorney Benjamin Crump said.

“The special prosecutor has seen all the evidence and still believes George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin,” he added.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/trayvon-martins-family-said-to-be-outraged-about

Attorney Benjamin Crump said that father Tracy Martin was particularly upset that the defendant, George Zimmerman, was allowed to take the stand and make the statement.

“All throughout the hearing, Tracy Martin had tears in his eyes as he watched the killer of his son,” Crump said. “And it was devastating that he got to give a self-serving apology to help him get a bond. They were outraged about that.”

Crump said that the family had declined to meet with Zimmerman before the hearing.

“It was very painful,” he said.


35 posted on 04/20/2012 11:03:57 AM PDT by maggief
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To: jiggyboy; kristinn

Partial video of Crump presser here:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/20/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html

Scroll down ... left.


36 posted on 04/20/2012 11:09:01 AM PDT by maggief
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To: madison10

Not cut on something. Not scraped. Busted open. Would like to know just how much pressure must be exerted to cause that type of injury......Expert witnesses waiting in the wing....How much more would be needed to cause permanent damage or death?


37 posted on 04/20/2012 11:13:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

It was at ABC news


38 posted on 04/20/2012 11:19:06 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Newt 2012)
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To: kristinn

I did not see his press conference, but if he said this, he is disrespecting the legal process to incite racial hate and violence against Zimmerman and should be punished for it.

They already have blood on their hands with their race incitment and calls to attack whites. They have endangered Zimmerman’s life with a bounty on his head and the Feds do nothing. Dozens of whites have been attacked by Black racists in the name of this race hate game. And the media and police departments tries to hide these cases from the public’s eyes so we don’t really know just how bad it is. Police departments most times refuse to name a black on white hate crime what it is.

He should be sactioned for this klan with a tan race mob “justice” mentality.


39 posted on 04/20/2012 11:23:16 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: kristinn
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

__________________________

Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.

40 posted on 04/20/2012 11:52:39 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: SaraJohnson
He should be sactioned for this klan with a tan race mob “justice” mentality.

Stirring up that race-mob mentality is Crump's stock in trade. We'll be seeing him again in other cases where some agitation is needed.

41 posted on 04/20/2012 12:03:58 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: maggief

Thanks.


42 posted on 04/20/2012 12:12:59 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: hoosiermama

Well I never knew...thank you


43 posted on 04/20/2012 12:16:44 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum

Have learned so much from fellow freepers. In the good ol days we were all learning and more often than we do today passed on tips to survive the new fangled computers.


44 posted on 04/20/2012 12:55:39 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: kristinn
While weeding it hit me: O’Mara was inside filling out the paper work getting Zimmerman out. The Judge was busy doing his job. Neither of them know of the shyster's bad behavior. The media is going to tell them. They'll edit out the worse behavior. The judge and Zimmerman' lawyer should be notified by an outside source (you????) of his error. Hold his feet to the fire Kristinn!
45 posted on 04/20/2012 1:02:52 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: maggief

“Crump said that the family had declined to meet with Zimmerman before the hearing.”

Which is it Crump?! Either he was grandstanding or he offered to meet with the family, you lying piece of race bating crap.


46 posted on 04/20/2012 1:17:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: maggief

Crump is more race-bating scum. This “feigned outrage” from parents who copyrighted their son’s name.


47 posted on 04/20/2012 5:34:24 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: maggief
Reporter asked: any concerns about the evidence?

Crump says the prosecutor “appropriately held back” on evidence. They’re saving it for trial, he says.

WHOA! That's a big no-no, isn't it?

48 posted on 04/20/2012 7:27:51 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: smokingfrog

First they called it an apology, and it wasn’t that, either. It was an expression of sympathy.

Then, having falsely characterized it as an apology, they tried to equate apology with acknowledgement of guilt.

The enlightening thing about both those MSM paths is that they’re just parroting the talking points Crump handed them the day before. He’s writing the lines, they’re just playing the parts.


49 posted on 04/20/2012 7:38:19 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: CottShop
Heh, heh...your posts are certainly a challenge but I “got” it!
50 posted on 04/21/2012 2:06:43 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah...OBAMA SUCKS!)
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