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U.S. Building a Domestic Population-Control Grid Based on Military Ops
321Gold ^ | Apr 19, 2012 | Lee Bellinger

Posted on 04/21/2012 8:08:42 PM PDT by hadit2here

The U.S. military has become expert at controlling urban populations in Iraq – but why is the Department of Homeland Security building similar capabilities here?

Unfortunately, the federal government’s war on freedom is a subject still dominated mostly by conspiracy theorists, end-of-the-worlders, and yes, crackpots who hold highly marginal and dismissible views. Fortunately, some of that is changing with the rise of “smart preppers.”

I think most people concerned about liberty would appreciate an honest, probative look at actual plans and initiatives that federal authorities are now developing in earnest. Not wild conclusions based on dark conspiracy theories that make most rational people roll their eyes. But a careful assessment of what Uncle Sam and his legions of high-tech crony capitalists are actually building and developing.

In this case, what’s on the table for scrutiny is nothing less than the creation of a national population surveillance and control grid.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: populationcontrol
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Got this link in an email. Interesting compilation of what's been going on... nothing that most FReepers don't know, I guess. But good to have in one place.

Not as strident as some conspiracy blogs.

1 posted on 04/21/2012 8:08:45 PM PDT by hadit2here
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To: hadit2here

Bookmark for later.


2 posted on 04/21/2012 8:17:57 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: hadit2here

Ask Bellinger why he destroyed the very successful internal security newsletter “The American Sentinel” starting in 1988 by mismanagement, stupidity and a lack of knowledge of the subject as opposed to it having been a financial and media success from 1971-1988.


3 posted on 04/21/2012 8:28:16 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: hadit2here

That’s why dear leader is pushing hard for rail expansion. He thinks we are all stupid.


4 posted on 04/21/2012 8:31:23 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: familyop

item that might be of interest...ping


5 posted on 04/21/2012 8:43:49 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: hadit2here

I hadn’t put 2 and 2 together until this thread came along. The assertions are supported by actual field work from this Administration over the past 3 years.

The studies and reports didn’t make any sense at the time,...just something chalked up as uneducated inner city political appointees making foolish operational plans with little to no logistics or transportation background, but being funded and placed by powerful players from other agencies throughout the DoD.

Worthwhile to ping and mark this topic.


6 posted on 04/21/2012 8:44:50 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: hadit2here
nothing that most FReepers don't know

And a lot approve of

7 posted on 04/21/2012 8:45:11 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: TEXOKIE; Kartographer; Nachum; cripplecreek; LucyT; onyx; STARWISE; Quix; SunkenCiv; Sparky21555; ..

ping


8 posted on 04/21/2012 8:47:41 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: hadit2here

9 posted on 04/21/2012 8:53:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: hadit2here

the big problem with this is that Northern Virginia is just a bridge away from DC. There are only so many armed federal officers in DC and the DC police will not be very much help due to rioting in the DC slums.


10 posted on 04/21/2012 9:04:23 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: hadit2here; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

END TIMES PING LIST PING TO THE OP AND OP LINK


11 posted on 04/21/2012 9:26:58 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: hadit2here
DHS Viper. Nasty, vicious stuff.
12 posted on 04/21/2012 9:30:23 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: upchuck

Gestapo tactics. Himmler would be jealous.


13 posted on 04/21/2012 9:39:18 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: null and void

Don’t be inviting your conspiracy kooks over here, whatever you do! ;)


14 posted on 04/21/2012 9:42:59 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: null and void

Nutjob list?


15 posted on 04/21/2012 9:43:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 04/21/2012 9:46:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: hadit2here

Good grief! Won’t sleep for a couple of days after pondering all of this while watching blade runner.


17 posted on 04/21/2012 9:46:41 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: hadit2here

Agenda 21.


18 posted on 04/21/2012 9:58:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Domestic Church

> Good grief! Won’t sleep for a couple of days after pondering all of this while watching blade runner.

Watch “Minority Report” too, while contemplating the vast myriad of laws that can be brought to bear on you, or worse-yet violations of non-law that people assume is valid.


19 posted on 04/21/2012 10:03:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: hadit2here

I went to the home page,no thanks!


20 posted on 04/21/2012 10:17:44 PM PDT by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: combat_boots; null and void; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; ...
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U.S. Building a Domestic Population-Control Grid Based on Military Ops

The U.S. military has become expert at controlling urban populations in Iraq – but why is the Department of Homeland Security building similar capabilities here?

Thanks, combat_boots.

21 posted on 04/21/2012 10:35:35 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

I think it is time to abolish the Dept. of Homeland Security (as well as the Departments of HUD, Education, Energy, and maybe others). There is nothing in its purpose that does not fall under the raison d’etre of the Dept of Defense.

On the other hand, the 20th Cent. shows us that a government intent on becoming a dictatorship does not need all these high=tech toys to stomp on human freedom.


22 posted on 04/22/2012 5:24:20 AM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Quix; combat_boots; hadit2here

Thanks for the ping
Drone Use Takes Off on the Home Front

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304331204577354331959335276.html

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With little public attention, dozens of universities and law-enforcement agencies have been given approval by federal aviation regulators to use unmanned aircraft known as drones, according to documents obtained via Freedom of Information Act requests by an advocacy group.

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“The very same drone that was staking out a nest of insurgents and possibly shooting them could be deployed in New York for surveillance” after removal of weaponry, Mr. Calo said. He said the use of drones could spark a wider debate about privacy because people aren’t accustomed to such technology. “If you bring back a tank from Afghanistan, you don’t expect it to show up in a park,” he said.”


23 posted on 04/22/2012 6:59:10 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
after removal of weaponry, (cough)
24 posted on 04/22/2012 7:37:18 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: hadit2here
We are already seeing much of this in the Houston area. Unmanned drones in Montgomery co. Texas, just North of Houston. Tomball, Texas received a DHS grant and is sporting spy chopper, advanced surveillance in cruisers and about town.

The great embarrassment, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee just announced a new coordinated effort through TSA to monitor buses within Houston. Checkpoints, random searches, parading dogs through terminals and onto Metro buses.

WE THE PEOPLE are now the suspects. This has been formulated with the approval of Democrats and Republicans.

Folks, the Republican party is NOT your friend.

25 posted on 04/22/2012 7:55:06 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: hadit2here
...some of that is changing with the rise of “smart preppers.”

The folks I know who consider themselves 'preppers' tend toward liberal...

26 posted on 04/22/2012 8:35:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: hadit2here; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

27 posted on 04/22/2012 8:48:30 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1188 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Cvengr

Car makers are being “encouraged” to install black-box tracking systems in all new cars.

Some $31 billion has been spent since 2003 to create “mini-CIA” domestic “Fusion Centers” – where local police monitor the political activities of private citizens, then send that data to Washington. Considering that “constitutionalist” and “patriots” are identified in federal documents as possible terror threats who should be watched, these fusion centers are a genuine cause for concern.

Major grants are going to local police departments for license plate readers to track autos (and by extension, their operators) automatically.

Thuggish tactics… FDA unleashes undercover operations to bring off-the-grid rural farming communities such as the Amish to heel – under the pretense of curbing raw milk sales across state lines.

New portable facial-analysis lie detectors – some units are based on thermal imaging technology – are being developed for wider use as in a national checkpoint system.

Tools for the totalitarian state being assembled...

28 posted on 04/22/2012 8:53:49 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: VietVet
I think it is time to abolish the Dept. of Homeland Security (as well as the Departments of HUD, Education, Energy, and maybe others). There is nothing in its purpose that does not fall under the raison d’etre of the Dept of Defense.

On the other hand, the 20th Cent. shows us that a government intent on becoming a dictatorship does not need all these high=tech toys to stomp on human freedom.


When I read stuff like this, there are times I think getting hit by the USSR/Russia/Red China or even Iran in a nuclear war would be a good idea. At least it would take out most of the people proposing these ideas and the States would have more freedom, restoring the Constitution to the way it was meant to be prior to the Civil War. It's either that or maybe it is the time Jesus should return. I think "The Man" who wants to do all of this is getting too big for his breeches so to speak and needs to have the smackdown applied to knock him down a peg or three. Think of Emperor Nimrod and the Tower of Babel.

It's like my cousin said, "they want to 'ghetto us' dude."
29 posted on 04/22/2012 9:17:35 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: All

The other side of the coin, the more high-tech you go, the easier it could be to foil them. The Afghans and Taliban do it all the time. One tactic to defeat infrared vision is to find a rock sitting in the sun all day and crawl up on it and cover yourself with a blanket. To night vision, the blanket makes you look like part of the rock. All the high tech over there we have and it can be defeated by a $5.00 blanket.


30 posted on 04/22/2012 9:21:04 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: hadit2here; Liz; sickoflibs; SJackson

ping


31 posted on 04/22/2012 9:53:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: combat_boots

Thank you for the ping CB.

One step at a time our beloved nation has been turned into the USSR. CWII is around the corner. Maybe even this summer. Sparked by the Travon Martin incedent.


32 posted on 04/22/2012 10:08:28 AM PDT by Sparky21555
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To: Travis McGee

BUMP


33 posted on 04/22/2012 10:31:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: upchuck

Wow, first I’ve heard of that specific VIPR program. Holy crap. I’m reading all I can find about it. I think we’re already circling the drain...


34 posted on 04/22/2012 11:38:30 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: hadit2here; lightman; Quix; SF_Redux; Kartographer

I saw this coming pre-Eschelon/Tempest (NSA) in early-1996, way before 9-11. An IT friend who hard-wired The Puzzle Palace’s TS/EO underground floors and other TS/EO installations, confirmed that it was well-underway years before. So many top secret installations/data collection center/info repositories worldwide, it’s beyond simply scary.

It’s already way too late for this Constitutional Republic. We’re past circling the drain and headed down the proverbial “rabbit hole”.


35 posted on 04/22/2012 12:40:03 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: hadit2here
Got this link in an email.

Are you on Michael Rivero's email list?

36 posted on 04/22/2012 1:51:13 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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To: carriage_hill; All
VIPR is evil. VIPR is 1984 come to life.
37 posted on 04/22/2012 2:03:52 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: combat_boots

If you want to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail. It is a relatively low volume list in which we have been exploring the UN Agenda21 and related topics. We have collected our studies with threads, links, and discussions on the Agenda 21 thread which can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738418/posts

NEW ACTION THREAD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2861644/posts


38 posted on 04/22/2012 3:34:14 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: hadit2here
I noticed many tv shows/commercials portray men as stupid, man child like. Autism is increasing rapidly especially in boys. Chemicals are interfering with hormones, There is a big government media push push to make homosexuality a norm.

Strong men are harder to control.

39 posted on 04/22/2012 4:52:53 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: hadit2here

Lets not forget that the DHS just bought 450 MILLION rounds of terminal performance .40 caliber ammo. Not BALL, this is JHP.

Now, who is all that ammunition going to be issued to?

Between all the FED LE agencies, probably less than 50k armed agents.

So, again who is that ammunition going to be issued to?


40 posted on 04/22/2012 6:24:46 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: combat_boots; Quix

Thanks combat_boots and Quix.
41 posted on 04/22/2012 8:08:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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END TIMES PING LIST PING

TO SUNKEN CIV’S

REFERENT POST AND LINK JUST ABOVE.


42 posted on 04/22/2012 8:38:34 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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43 posted on 04/22/2012 9:16:02 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: ClearBlueSky

PING.

This is something you want to read.


44 posted on 04/22/2012 10:28:16 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Nailbiter

bflr


45 posted on 04/22/2012 10:30:17 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Quix; SunkenCiv; All

Some old wise men, a long time ago, wrote a guidebook for free people called The Constitution of the United States.
Conservatives strongly believe what they wrote because it has worked quite well for over 200 years.
The Moderates would like to change it a bit, and the Democrats, believers in communism, would like to destroy it.

It’s time to choose sides. Ask yourself what are you?

DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PATRIOT IS?

PATRIOTS are not “Revolutionaries” trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are “Counter-Revolutionaries” trying to prevent the government of the United States, from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States.
- Unknown Author

What the authors of Why Is It Necessary For The Federal Government To Turn The United States Into A Prison Camp? and U.S. Building a Domestic Population-Control Grid Based on Military Ops apparently have forgotten is that each and every state have their own Constitutions, that’s right they have their own state sovereignty. If the federal government ever thinks that it can simultaneously take over the individual sovereignty of the 50 great states that make up these United States then we will have to have simultaneously surrendered our state sovereignty to it.

I don’t think that is about to happen. Why not? Because there is men and women, Patriots, in every state who will demand their Governors rise up and protect their state sovereignty the same way that a mother grizzly bear protects her cubs.

I’m sorry that some of you would be willing to lay down and surrender your arms if a law demands that you do so. I’m not one who could ever do that, consequently I will do everything I can to make certain that such a law never gets passed. Not so much that I don’t want to become a criminal but because I have seen the horrors of combat and I don’t wish to ever repeat those days.

Freedom, individual liberty is something worth dying for. Not something that a man or woman should ever be willing to surrender. I can’t help but wonder what would have happened if the Nazi’s had had to face a gun barrel every time they started ordering the German Jews around. Would we have had a second World War. Would there have been a Holocaust?


46 posted on 04/22/2012 11:41:28 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: upchuck

OMG, I’m finding that out with every article I read about it. I had no idea what it was or that it even existed. Thanks for the info, u.


47 posted on 04/23/2012 1:10:17 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: B4Ranch

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.


48 posted on 04/23/2012 4:17:54 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: servantboy777
Folks, the Republican party is NOT your friend.

Ah, delightful! Another person awakens.

49 posted on 04/23/2012 5:06:04 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

I’ve not awakened, this has been my battle cry for quite a long time.

Slowly, but surely, folks are seeing the truth. Unfortunately, it is painfully slow.


50 posted on 04/23/2012 6:22:06 AM PDT by servantboy777
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