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Voter Fraud? Remove deceased and relocated from voter rolls.
4/23/12 | Bushwon

Posted on 04/23/2012 9:43:27 PM PDT by bushwon

When I voted in my primary election in March, the poll worker indicated that one or more of my children who now live out of state and have voted out of state, are still on our local voter rolls. I have found the procedure to have their names removed. Our county election commission has a website where folks can look up registrants, the registrants can send a signed letter indicating they have moved in order to have their name removed.

It occurred to me that many of us know of neighbors who have moved, relatives who are deceased, etc.

I am wondering if we can make a difference in reducing voter fraud if we make an effort to correct inaccuracies in our local voter rolls.

I don't know how to have deceased removed, but I would like to reduce the deceased potential voter pool.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: election; fraud; voter; voting
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1 posted on 04/23/2012 9:43:28 PM PDT by bushwon
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To: bushwon

bots


2 posted on 04/23/2012 9:46:14 PM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries

and tater tots


3 posted on 04/23/2012 9:46:49 PM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries

No idea what you are talking about, but thanks so much for the making the first two posts such thoughtful replies....

Anyone else?


4 posted on 04/23/2012 9:57:45 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

http://truethevote.org/


5 posted on 04/23/2012 10:08:33 PM PDT by freeagle
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To: freeagle

Thanks for the link.

One of the ways voter fraud occurs is thru the stealing of names of residents who are not registered, have moved or are deceased. I believe if reduce that pool, we reduce the fraud. Hope voter ID laws will be enforced, but this may be another avenue if they are not.


6 posted on 04/23/2012 10:19:31 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

If someone is dead there is something called a Certificate of Death. Something tells me that the registrar of voters has no desire to be informed.


7 posted on 04/23/2012 10:28:05 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yes, I am well aware of death certificates; I have the death certificates for both of my parents. However, if there is not an official mechanism to remove their names from voter rolls, they may still be on the rolls.

If they are still on the voting rolls, someone could come in and vote on their behalf....with no voter ID, this is one of the methods of voter fraud.


8 posted on 04/23/2012 10:35:10 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

I think it is a practical and worthwhile idea.


9 posted on 04/23/2012 11:09:04 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: bushwon

Years ago...my father-in-law passed away at around 5AM on a Friday morning. This was Germany, and I was amazed at the process.

They asked my wife and the mother-in-law to come down and claim personal effects. We didn’t get to the hospital until 1130 that morning. He had been moved to the morgue. They needed a family member to sign the submission paperwork for him to be declared dead. But then they admitted this was Friday....thus the local city hall was shut down by 1:30 PM, and this paperwork would not get there in time to be stamped...so the body wouldn’t be released until Monday at the earliest.

Then I came to be told the whole process at the city hall. The guy would be moved to a special tax status. His voting record was terminated. There were various things done by the action of this death certificate.

Obviously, the Germans had thought about this and developed a pretty standardized list of things that must be done. I’m willing to bet...unless you have a heart attack within minutes after leaving the voting station....that’s about the only way that a guy in Germany could be declared dead and vote on the same day. Otherwise...a dead guy will absolutely never vote in Germany.


10 posted on 04/24/2012 12:56:30 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: bushwon

I checked online to see if my name was still on the voter roll of a state I had recently moved from; it was. I meant to do something about it, then forgot. Sometime later, I thought to check again, and it was still there. So I called them, and they had to send me a form to fill out saying I no longer lived there!


11 posted on 04/24/2012 3:57:20 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: bushwon
There should be a way to do automatic purging of the rolls. If nothing else, then tie it to drivers license renewals. This way, when your license expires, so does your voter's registration. Since they can do both at the same time, it's a no brainer. Of course, the powers that be don't want for there to be less fraud, so any reasonable proposal falls on deaf ears.
12 posted on 04/24/2012 6:56:40 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Persevero

Thanks.

Every vote that is fraudulently cast disenfranchises a legitimate vote. We may not get voter ID, but we can keep track of our family and friends.


13 posted on 04/24/2012 8:04:28 AM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: zeugma

In my state, if you die in your county or residence, then voter rolls are purged. If you pass in another county, there is no mechanism, hence the potential for fraud.

In my state, if you vote in another county of my state, your name is removed. If you vote in another state, there is no mechanism, hence the potential for fraud.

I am sure the county election commission would take a certified death certificate as proof of passing, and living voting in other states can request form.....

My point is there is no mechanism, so honest citizens need to take it upon themselves to check.


14 posted on 04/24/2012 10:21:37 AM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: smalltownslick

I checked online to see if my name was still on the voter roll of a state I had recently moved from; it was. I meant to do something about it, then forgot. Sometime later, I thought to check again, and it was still there. So I called them, and they had to send me a form to fill out saying I no longer lived there!


Exactly. This is something that should be on “moving checklists”, but I bet it is not....


15 posted on 04/24/2012 10:25:56 AM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon
With the advent of computer technology it should not be a problem for each state to put in place a system that would notify each voter registration entity on the occurrence of certain events. The events could include but not limited to; death, property sales, felony convictions, marriage/divorce proceedings, drivers license changes, address changes, etc. Then an action could be taken if warranted to purge the name from the voter roles.
16 posted on 04/24/2012 10:31:04 AM PDT by deport (.............God Bless Texas............)
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To: deport

Yes, that process should be happening...at least in states that want to reduce voter fraud. However, there are some states that likely have no interest in doing this, so it is up to citizens to do what then can to ensure that the rolls are accurate....especially prior to the all important 2012 election.


17 posted on 04/24/2012 4:09:03 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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