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UNCOVERED: Obama to give oil-rich Alaskan islands, billions of barrels of oil, to Russia...
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Posted on 04/24/2012 7:08:45 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

Edited on 04/24/2012 7:20:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

UNCOVERED: Obama to give oil-rich Alaskan (United States) islands, billions of barrels of oil, to Russia...

The agreement was negotiated in total secrecy. The state of Alaska was not allowed to participate in the negotiations, nor was the public given any opportunity for comment. This is despite the fact the Alaska Legislature has passed resolutions of opposition – but the State Department doesn’t seem to care.
The seven endangered islands in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea include one the size of Rhode Island and Delaware combined. The Russians are also to get the tens of thousands of square miles of oil-rich seabeds surrounding the islands. The Department of Interior estimates billions of barrels of oil are at stake.
We won the Cold War and should start acting like it.

Click here to read story at World Net Daily...​



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: alaska; cuespookymusic; obama; oil; russia; wnd; wrangelisland

1 posted on 04/24/2012 7:08:53 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Treason?


2 posted on 04/24/2012 7:12:42 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

Obama and the Motherland


3 posted on 04/24/2012 7:15:38 PM PDT by molson209
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Obama to give oil-rich Alaskan (United States) islands, billions of barrels of oil, to Russia... The agreement was negotiated in total secrecy.

As I recall “agreements” between nations are called “Treaties” and treaties entered into by the United States must be ratified by the Senate in order to be valid and enforceable.

4 posted on 04/24/2012 7:16:39 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: vetvetdoug
Treason? No. He'd have to be an American for it to be treason.

I'd say espionage!

Get the Pace picante sauce!

5 posted on 04/24/2012 7:17:21 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Presidents can give away American soil ... who knew?


6 posted on 04/24/2012 7:18:13 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Well one thing is certain. If the Russians own this oil, then it is more likely to end up in your gas tank than if Obama controls it.


7 posted on 04/24/2012 7:21:04 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Has there been an independent news source verifying this? Is this U.S. Territory?


8 posted on 04/24/2012 7:21:54 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Alaskan Island Giveaway?

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/03/alaskan-island-giveaway/


9 posted on 04/24/2012 7:23:04 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

It isn’t his to give.

Has this been confirmed outside the blog/wnd world?


10 posted on 04/24/2012 7:24:39 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ColdSteelTalon

No. Its not US soil.


11 posted on 04/24/2012 7:25:39 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: ColdSteelTalon

This has been posted and debunked countless times. These islands are off the coast of Siberia and nowhere near Alaska. They have been occupied by the Russians since at least the 1920s and the US has NEVER made any formal claim over them.


12 posted on 04/24/2012 7:25:46 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: All; thackney
This has been posted (and debunked) on FR many times.

"We’ve been reading about it Free Republic since the mid-years of George Bush."

Friday, March 16, 2012 3:35:13 PM by thackney

1) The islands are not and never were part of Alaska, they were not included in the purchase of Alaska.

2) The U.S. has never actually claimed the islands. Russia claimed the islands back under the Tzars.

3) The treaty on the maritime border was negotiated in 1990 and ratified by the Senate and signed by President Bush in 1991.

A map of the islands:

Friday, March 16, 2012 3:53:06 PM by Cheburashka

13 posted on 04/24/2012 7:27:06 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: Salohcin

Thanks, should have figured if WND was the source it should be taken with a grain of salt.


14 posted on 04/24/2012 7:27:11 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ColdSteelTalon

We look stupid when this stuff is posted on FR.


15 posted on 04/24/2012 7:28:10 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Not the first time! Wern’t the WRANGEL ISLANDS once US territory? Did not the Soviets invade, killing several Americans and FDR eventually give up the islands to them?


16 posted on 04/24/2012 7:28:25 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Bttt


17 posted on 04/24/2012 7:33:29 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Salohcin

The sad thing is IF the islands were ours and IF obama wanted to give them to the Russians, for some reason, he’d be allowed to do it even though they’re not his to give. And not one republican would object.


18 posted on 04/24/2012 7:35:48 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Brilliant

Definitely ~ oil bearing land in the hands of the Russians will be drilled and tapped.


19 posted on 04/24/2012 7:43:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
No, Wrangel Island, which is off the coast of Siberia was never US territory and was never occupied by the US. Unfortunately, it is often confused with Wrangell Island, which is in the Alaskan panhandle.
20 posted on 04/24/2012 7:43:47 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: Salohcin

Thanks for the info. I stand corrected.


21 posted on 04/24/2012 7:49:21 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: listenhillary

Yep. WND really is being irresponsible on this one. Everything I have been able to find is that we have no claim on the land and never asserted it. And there has been an agreement for at least 20 years on the boundaries. Unless I see something different...


22 posted on 04/24/2012 8:01:10 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Are you a Democrat trying to make us look silly? :)


23 posted on 04/24/2012 8:04:32 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: icwhatudo

I might be wrong but I think Atomic_punk is not in our camp.


24 posted on 04/24/2012 8:06:55 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

False and debunked several times here on FR.


25 posted on 04/24/2012 8:08:15 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Dude. Stupid and refuted.


26 posted on 04/24/2012 8:11:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

I assure you I am no demoncrat nor have i ever been i thought this was interesting coming from the TPB {tea party brief} thats all ..... i got caught up in the get rid of Obama frenzy !


27 posted on 04/24/2012 8:34:45 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: Lazamataz

Geee thanks laz lol


28 posted on 04/24/2012 8:36:03 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Sorry bro. But it’s TWOO.


29 posted on 04/24/2012 8:39:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Love ya anyways.


30 posted on 04/24/2012 8:40:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: Lazamataz

lol No Problem


31 posted on 04/24/2012 8:40:57 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
OK thats cool we all get snookered from time to time.

Obama clearly is a Communist. And we have to be careful when quoting arguments and news articles because that leaves us open to assault by the left If we are wrong.

I am really not happy with WND right now, they should never have allowed that editorial. Very irresponsible on their part.

32 posted on 04/24/2012 8:51:41 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Java4Jay

Thank you ...


33 posted on 04/24/2012 10:12:39 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: vetvetdoug
Treason?

No, not on this. This is fake. It was an old recirculated myth from the GWB days.

34 posted on 04/25/2012 4:41:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: mnehring
It isn’t his to give.

Correct. They already belong to Russia and have for over 100 years.

35 posted on 04/25/2012 4:42:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: listenhillary
We look stupid when this stuff is posted on FR.

We look insane when it is posted and debunked nearly every month.

36 posted on 04/25/2012 4:43:54 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: vetvetdoug

Neah. I dislike Obama as much as anybody, but if you look at the islands, they are all so close to the Sov, er, Siberia that it makes sense, oil or no. We couldn’t develop them without diplomatic and security issues. The Russians can.


37 posted on 04/25/2012 4:50:56 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

Especially when you consider these Islands have been part of Russia for 100 years or more, the diplomatic problems security for the US to show up and drill for oil becomes even tougher.


38 posted on 04/25/2012 6:19:55 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Absolutely!
Besides, if they WERE American islands, enviro-fascists would block any drilling.
Drill, Russia, drill!


39 posted on 04/25/2012 6:32:17 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

>>>>>>>>>>>>Not the first time! Wern’t the WRANGEL ISLANDS once US territory? Did not the Soviets invade, killing several Americans and FDR eventually give up the islands to them?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I’m not sure about all the background, but these islands had a Soviet AFB and early warning radars for decades.


40 posted on 04/25/2012 6:37:28 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Buck Ofama.


41 posted on 04/25/2012 6:38:44 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Lazamataz
I'm sorry.

I thought stupid and refuted was a ping.

42 posted on 04/25/2012 8:02:58 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Why not? He already gave oil off the coast of Florida to China.


43 posted on 04/25/2012 8:12:48 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; SunkenCiv; Nachum; TigersEye

It would be huge if accurate. Does Obama have the power to prevent this give-away? I have no idea.

I received a copy of this via email and did a quick google ...

—COUNTER-POINT —

[similar to pro-obama factcheck.org’s take]

— wikipedia —

[regarding one specific island]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrangel_Island

Post-Soviet eraAccording to some US individuals, including the group State Department

Watch,[35] eight Arctic islands currently controlled by Russia, including Wrangel

Island, are claimed by the United States. However, according to the United States

Department of State[36] no such claim exists. The USSR/USA Maritime Boundary Treaty,[37] which has yet to be approved by the Russian Duma, does not specifically address the status of these islands nor the maritime boundaries associated with them.

On June 1, 1990, Secretary of State James Baker signed an executive agreement with Eduard Shevardnadze, the former U.S.S.R. foreign minister. It specified that even though
the treaty had not been ratified, the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. agreed to abide by the terms of the treaty beginning June 15, 1990. According to State Department Watch, neither the
public nor Congress were informed of this executive agreement during the period leading up to the ratification vote.[38] The Senate ratified the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Maritime Boundary Treaty in 1991, which was then signed by President George Bush.[38]

[snip — un-quote]

— Warning: wikipedia —


44 posted on 04/29/2012 9:16:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ..

Thanks AWM, but this is one of those NTSA topics. The same allegation was made (even here on FR, imagine that) against GWB. Our Wrangel Island isn’t going anywhere, theirs has always been theirs. This timewaster should be banned from FR, or at the very least, all but the oldest of the topics should be locked.

There are two Arctic islands known (to us anyway) as Wrangel; one is near Alaska, one is offshore Siberia.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/927764/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1002664/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/wrangellisland/index
http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/articles4/state_department_lies_about_give.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=wrangel+island+site:freerepublic.com


45 posted on 04/29/2012 5:44:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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