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Newt Gingrich The Grinch Who Stole Conservatism
The South Carolin Conservative Dot Com ^ | April 24, 2012 | By: Javan Browder

Posted on 04/27/2012 10:34:48 AM PDT by jacknhoo

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Pretty much, my sentiments, too.
1 posted on 04/27/2012 10:34:54 AM PDT by jacknhoo
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To: jacknhoo

Santorum? The guy who couldn’t win his own state? That Santorum?


2 posted on 04/27/2012 10:37:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: jacknhoo
I suspect your going to get a bit of heat on this post...


3 posted on 04/27/2012 10:38:17 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Yeah, but, it’s time to face the facts.


4 posted on 04/27/2012 10:40:21 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You mean the Santorum who beat Newt in PA and almost tied him in RI and wasn’t even in the race anymore? That Santorum?


5 posted on 04/27/2012 10:40:24 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: jacknhoo
Sore losers die hard. Bitter clingers you might say.
6 posted on 04/27/2012 10:40:51 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If anybody is the Grinch it is Santorum, the political whore who helped Spectre pass the Obamacare bill.

Santorum wasn’t much of anything , much less a Conservative.

Newt could have beaten Obama. If Romney does luck out and beat Obama we still don’t have anything representing a Conservative.

What we have is another Mccain -Dole Fiasco.

Santorum was a boy running for a man’s job.


7 posted on 04/27/2012 10:44:06 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: hinckley buzzard

You mean conservatives, I assume.


8 posted on 04/27/2012 10:44:21 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’m betting Rick could beat Newt in a footrace and Newt could beat Rick at arm wrestling. And those matter about as much as the primaries you mentioned. Neither one came close to the nomination, did they? Neither one had a chance against the hundreds of millions of dollars available to Mitt Romney. It’s almost like we’re discussing fantasy football or a Star Trek episode.


9 posted on 04/27/2012 10:44:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Venturer
"Newt could have beaten Obama"

Yeah, that was all too apparent...how could Newt not have seen that?
10 posted on 04/27/2012 10:46:05 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s probably true at this juncture.


11 posted on 04/27/2012 10:49:27 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: jacknhoo
"Saint" Santo is to endorse the extremely "Extreme conservative" [Haahaa] candidate:


-snip-

"Former Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum says he expects to endorse Mitt Romney.

Santorum says that he believes Romney is "the right guy" to challenge President Barack Obama. ..."

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/24/2766197/santorum-hints-at-romney-endorsement.html



Sainty 'Expects to endorse' the 'Right guy' Romney - LoL.

12 posted on 04/27/2012 10:51:40 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jacknhoo

Well Jack we all have opinions.

IMO Newt was the only candidate worth voting for. Now we see that santorum quit, and Romney is certainly not worth voting for, so you can hate Newt if you like we ended up with a RepubloDem running as our candidate.

Even if we win we lose.


13 posted on 04/27/2012 10:53:03 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Red Steel

And what will be your position when your boy Newt backs Milt next week? Will you attack him with as much childish vigor?


14 posted on 04/27/2012 10:55:07 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Red Steel

You mean like Newt has already done?! Of course, Santorum could be up for VP...You know Newt won’t be.


15 posted on 04/27/2012 10:56:55 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Lazlo in PA; jacknhoo

“I suspect you’re going to get a bit of heat on this post...”

I agree. I think the smell of sour grapes is in the air.


16 posted on 04/27/2012 11:00:04 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: Red Steel

Gingrich out, will endorse Romney

The former Speaker is likely to appear with Romney next week at a campaign event to make a formal endorsement.
By Philip Elliot / April 25, 2012

Excerpt:

Gingrich had a friendly telephone conversation Wednesday with Romney and had started planning an event where he would throw his support behind the likely nominee, Gingrich spokesman R.C Hammond said. The pair agreed to work together to unite conservatives against President Barack Obama.

“It’s clear Romney is the nominee and the focus should be on defeating Obama. We should not focus on defeating ourselves,” Gingrich told disappointed supporters in Kings Mountain, N.C., the morning after Romney tightened his grip on the nomination by sweeping primary contests in five states.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0425/Gingrich-out-will-endorse-Romney

As if this hasn’t been Gingrich’s plan all along...


17 posted on 04/27/2012 11:01:41 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Oh please. I never said Newt was perfect, but you SantoBots displayed “childish vigor” of zealots endorsing the guy whose record was liberal on spending and who sought working with liberals by tooting it in his political ads.


18 posted on 04/27/2012 11:07:30 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jacknhoo

Yep. Romney, via Adelson, played FRingrichers masterfully. The only question is whether Gingrich was in on the scam or had his ego played by Adelson without realizing he was being used and then discarded.

It’s over now. We’ve now got Romney. Anybody for lemonade?

[crickets chirping]

I didn’t think so.


19 posted on 04/27/2012 11:09:24 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: jacknhoo
As if this hasn’t been Gingrich’s plan all along...

Oh gee you got me - not. LoL. Hey Ricky must have been planing it all along too. Back to future we go!

Santorum Gives a Passionate Endorsement of Romney in 2008, Then Flip Flops For Political Gain

20 posted on 04/27/2012 11:13:50 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

You do realize that Newt has said the same thing?


21 posted on 04/27/2012 11:15:01 AM PDT by Ingtar (When I donate to FR, it does not take the money and run as every politician I donate to does)
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To: Ingtar

You should also realize that Santo gave an ‘impassioned endorsement” for his “man” Romney.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2877225/posts?page=20#20


22 posted on 04/27/2012 11:17:48 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jacknhoo

Nothing short of the unthinkable will stop the march to globalism.


23 posted on 04/27/2012 11:19:56 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Red Steel
...endorsing the guy whose record was liberal on spending and who sought working with liberals by tooting it in his political ads.

You mean as opposed to supporting the guy who was actively working with Algore on promoting the Global Warming hoax, touring the country with Rev Sharpton for education reforms, said Romneycare was a great idea, said the era of Reagan is dead, called Paul Ryan's modest plan extreme and gave speeches with Hillary Clinton to promote having our health care records controlled by the federal government. BTW, Rick had the highest rating from the NRA of any candidate running and also had a solid rating from the ACU and Taxpayers Union. Judging by the final results in this Primary, most Conservative voters saw it the way I did.

24 posted on 04/27/2012 11:22:10 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: jacknhoo
Gingrich out, will endorse Romney

Santorum: Romney is the "right guy" to challenge Obama.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2877248/posts

Not you Santo?

25 posted on 04/27/2012 11:34:05 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

A:

“...he will ultimately support the GOP presidential nominee. And he says it’s clear that Romney will be that nominee.” “... we have to focus on beating Obama.”

B:
“It’s clear Romney is the nominee and the focus should be on defeating Obama. We should not focus on defeating ourselves,”

A or B? It sounds as if Santorum and Gingrich are on the same page.


26 posted on 04/27/2012 11:54:28 AM PDT by Ingtar (When I donate to FR, it does not take the money and run as every politician I donate to does)
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To: jacknhoo
You're a pinhead. You look to Newt endorsing Romney after the race is over as some kind of proof that he was in it to sandbag the other candidates.

You can say that about just EVERY candidate who was in the race. So were ALL of them on Romney's dole?

Or maybe, just maybe, there wasn't a single strong enough candidate in the entire pack and the only reason Romney won was his overwhelming money edge and his lack of scruples in attacking the other candidates?

27 posted on 04/27/2012 11:56:48 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Lazlo in PA; Red Steel

I am not sure how productive it is to keep fighting the previous battle.


28 posted on 04/27/2012 11:57:53 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

It isn’t productive in the least, but I am not going to let my guy get smeared with childish names and insults just so some can feel better about themselves.

I just as soon move on to the matter at hand. An out of control, corrupt WH and a House and Senate populated with enough Statists and Progressives to destroy the country.

What we have been covering here isn’t out of bounds for discussion. I am on the cat ping list for crying out loud. That is fairly unimportant, but this issue on this thread isn’t very important at this moment in time.


29 posted on 04/27/2012 12:11:23 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA; dirtboy
It isn’t productive in the least, but I am not going to let my guy get smeared with childish names and insults just so some can feel better about themselves.

Sour grapes and childish behavior started with the posting of this article and I feel the same as before.

30 posted on 04/27/2012 12:15:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Lazlo in PA
BTW, Rick had the highest rating from the NRA of any candidate running and also had a solid rating from the ACU and Taxpayers Union.

Is that right? Lets take a look at Santorum's "solid ratings".

"According to National Journal’s annual ratings, former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum’s votes on key issues often placed him in the conservative faction of the Senate. But he was not consistently found among the chamber’s most conservative members. For instance, in the years leading to his 2006 reelection contest, Santorum’s voting record became relatively much more liberal..."

http://nationaljournal.com/politics/rick-santorum-s-track-record-in-the-senate-20120104

Santo ranked 34th, 35th, 34th in his last years. Definite liberal pandering went on.

31 posted on 04/27/2012 12:22:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Ah. National Journal. The stalwart of Conservative thinking. Charlie Cook, Richard Cohen et al? I know they are my go to source, even over FR, for solid info on matters important to me.


32 posted on 04/27/2012 12:33:03 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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he led the GOP to the single greatest loss in Congress that ANY party in history had ever suffered in the 1998 midterm elections

VERY unlikely. During the 19th century it wasn't uncommon for a party to lose 50% of its reps in a single election.

Not to mention that the Whig Party entirely disappeared. Which would seem to be a pretty significant defeat.

33 posted on 04/27/2012 12:57:04 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Newt was the spoiler. He could have been a kingmaker.
No way could he have beaten Obama. I supported him in the beginning but now have lost all respect for him.

He “fundamentally, transformationally” ruined this campaign for the one Conservative in the race: Rick Santorum.

Big ideas? Big deal.


34 posted on 04/27/2012 12:59:47 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (We not not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Native American P.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Love the way the Newties have to keep bringing up Santorum in an effort to change the subject. Kinda like the Dems do with Bush.

Santorum can hold his head high for running one heck of a campaign.

Newt, on the other hand, has proven to be an embarrassment...


35 posted on 04/27/2012 1:05:12 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (We not not inherit the earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Native American P.)
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To: Mountain Mary

I disagree heartily

Santorum sucked from the beginning but a few went with him and ruined Newts chances.

Sanntorum never had a prayer.


36 posted on 04/27/2012 3:08:22 PM PDT by Venturer
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Santorum sucked from the beginning...

You mean like having his campaign staff quit in disgust with the lackadaisical nature of their candidate?

BTW, the "few" that went with Rick was 1 Million more than Newt could muster. Hard to believe since that Southern Strategy worked like a charm.

37 posted on 04/27/2012 4:29:14 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

A million idiots who went with the boy wonder.

Right now they have the same thing Newt people have.

Nothing, while Romney rises to the top,

Aint that great,but you go on with your lame candidate while I stick with my lame candidate.


38 posted on 04/27/2012 4:47:10 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Ya know what this really amounted to was Momentum.

Newt had Momentum and was rolling, then Romney spent millions to place him in a bad light, Then the Momentum switched over to Santorum, everybody jumped on that bandwagon except a few of us who saw Santorum didn’t have the juice to bring it home, but our boy Romney started spending millions to kill his candidacy. Now they are both gone and so we are left with a handfull of crap.

I really believe that either of them could have beaten Mit Romney, but both could not.

Romney played them and us for fools, and he had the money to do it. Now it is Romney who faces Obama’s millions we will see how he makes out.


39 posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:15 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: jacknhoo

A couple of people who really don’t have a clue.

Just an honest look at the records is all anyone needs to do.

JB


40 posted on 04/27/2012 5:40:27 PM PDT by thatjoeguy (MAYDAY! MAYDAY! We are so going in ! !)
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To: Venturer

How was Santorum supposed to know there would even be an Obama”care”?

Guess the criteria of being a Newt supporter is to be devoid of common sense.

“The Truth Regarding Santorum’s Endorsement of Arlen Specter
October 12, 2011
“The reason I endorsed Arlen Specter is because we were going to have two Supreme Court nominees coming up,” said Santorum. “I got a commitment from Arlen Specter that no matter who George W. Bush would nominate, he would support that nominee.”
excerpt http://blog.lisagraas.com/2011/10/12/the-truth-regarding-santorums-endorsement-of-arlen-specter/

Santorum said Alito would not be a Justice if it weren’t for Specter. Specter was very effective at being the head of the Judicial Committee. Toomey would not have been the Judicial Committee leader, plus Toomey might have lost the election at that time. Specter won the election by a good margin.

OK, now it’s YOUR TURN. Care to tell me why Newt endorsed Dede Scozzavave?


41 posted on 04/29/2012 2:10:58 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Red Steel

lol, Newt ALREADY endorsed Mitt. Newt couldn’t wait.


42 posted on 04/29/2012 2:13:22 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Red Steel

National Journal? At least you have a sense of humor.

Now let’s see what CONSERVATIVE groups thought of Rick Santorum:

American Conservative Union — 88%
National Right to Life Committee — 100%
Americans for Tax Reform — 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee — 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce — 88%
League of Private Property Voters — 94%

http://www.redstate.com/wosg/2012/01/06/rick-santorum-yes-he-is-a-true-conservative/


43 posted on 04/29/2012 2:17:54 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Mountain Mary

“in an effort to change the subject. ..”

They act an awful lot like libDems, don’t they?


44 posted on 04/29/2012 2:19:56 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: jacknhoo

“When even Ron Paul has beaten you 8 more times than you have beaten him, it’s a very sad thing. Continuing to lose to Paul should have been a wake up call for Newt to drop the heck out, but Newt will only follow where his ego leads him.”

Yup.


45 posted on 04/29/2012 2:21:45 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: jacknhoo

So much vile bile for a man who has done so much for conservatism. Such overkill. Why not think up a term like “Gingrichism” to get your jollies.

Speaker Newt Gingrich may be out of the primary but he isn’t going to stop shaping the conversation.

Just as Governor Rick Perry, Newt will be in the Left’s face shaping arguments in clear terms. Perry and Gingrich will never stop their fight against socialism nor back away from championing American exceptionalism and strength.

Why the perverse need to tear down a good man? What’s your angle?


46 posted on 04/29/2012 2:30:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why the perverse need to tear down a good man? What’s your angle?

Possibly he/she is a sleeper troll?

47 posted on 04/29/2012 2:56:13 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("All 57 states must stand together and defeat O-bozo! VOTE the usurper out!!")
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Early on the field was very crowded. Some of us conservatives were with Bachmann, others with Santorum, Cain, or Perry. But who would have ever thought that any conservatives would have rallied around Newt Gingrich of all possibilities? Considering that Newt last held office in 1999 and had a coup held against him in 1997 by the conservative wing of the GOP. Considering that Newt stepped down in shame after he led the GOP to the single greatest loss in Congress that ANY party in history had ever suffered in the 1998 midterm elections, who would have thought it?

That's what did it. Newt shows up on TV what a decade later holding no other office to say here I am. As governor or seantor he could have built back some credibility he lost. Newt carried a very huge trust issue. That is what cost him the nomination.

BTW where was Newt showing up the most? FOX News wasn't it before he declared? Who was Fox News behind? Romney all the way. I'm not sure Newt's sticking around was because of his ego or by design. In any case Conservatives have been had.

48 posted on 04/29/2012 3:06:25 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Their angle is divide, conquer and control agitprop.


49 posted on 04/29/2012 3:12:28 AM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: jacknhoo

All this is true. It really wasn’t too hard to see. Like a trainwreck it was.


50 posted on 04/29/2012 3:21:16 AM PDT by dforest
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