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GOP leaders prevent a hearing on pro-life legislation
Tulsa Beacon ^ | Thursday, April 26th, 2012 | Tulsa Beacon

Posted on 04/27/2012 9:27:42 PM PDT by DNA.2012

Republican leaders in the Oklahoma Legislature have killed a pro-life bill without even allowing a floor vote on the measure.

The “personhood” bill would acknowledge that life begins at conception and has been passed or is under debate in a dozen states.

The Oklahoma House and Senate are controlled by Republican leaders who run for re-election under a GOP pro-life platform that promotes the sanctity of life.

One GOP lawmaker said the personhood bill was killed because the State Chamber of Commerce instructed the GOP leadership to do so because the chamber didn’t want any negative national publicity.

(Excerpt) Read more at tulsabeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; election; elections; gop; mittromney; moralabsolutes; prolife; republican; republicans; romney
The Republican Establishment twists the knife deeper into the backs of pro-lifers.

How will pro-lifers respond?

By continuing to vote for any Republican, no matter how liberal?

1 posted on 04/27/2012 9:27:50 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

“One GOP lawmaker said the personhood bill was killed because the State Chamber of Commerce instructed the GOP leadership to do so because the chamber didn’t want any negative national publicity.”

How would the Chamber of Commerce be affected by pro-life legislation?


2 posted on 04/27/2012 9:32:33 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: DNA.2012

Also....I keep hearing that the economy trumps Social Issues in the upcoming election. Christian Social issues taking a back seat? There is a term for this, it`s in the Bible and it`s called backsliding.


3 posted on 04/27/2012 9:35:26 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: DNA.2012

Ah ha - the old “decision by the caucus” has now joined the “decision by the committee”. No one wants to own up. Chicken livered skunks!


4 posted on 04/27/2012 9:55:04 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: DNA.2012

A friend of mine contacted Eddie Field’s office and spoke with him regarding the bill in question. There is more to it than what is being reported in the article:

Following is the email I got from my friend regarding this issue:

“I also called the same day that I emailed him. I spoke to an aid who said he would get more information and return my call. Later Sen. Fields himself called. He told me everything that was in the below email [shown below] and also that he had talked with the chief justice of the state supreme court. The chief justice’s agreed that HB 1552, if passed, would immediately be attached to the same law suit that in which the state question is now in federal court in Denver. We also discussed the fact that an amendment to the OK constitution would be far better than a law. He expects the federal judge to vote in our favor. I think he may be too optimistic, but I pray that he is right.”

This is the email my friend also received from his office:

Xxxxxxxxx, thank you for the email. I want to start with that I was one of the co-authors in the house on the HJR that put this to the vote of the people in 2010. Currently the state question is in federal court and there is still a chance to put this into our State Constitution but because of the lawsuit and potential of another lawsuit on this bill, I voted no because I don’t want to waste any for tax payers dollars defending another lawsuit. I do agree with you that we need to outlaw the use of sharia law or foreign law in our state courts but I believe it should be in our Constitution not in state statutes. I promise you that next year we will take care of this one way or another. If you have any other questions, please contact me. Thank you, Eddie Fields.

~~~
I hope this sheds light on this subject!


5 posted on 04/27/2012 9:55:43 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: DNA.2012

This is a total bs article—get your facts straight..


6 posted on 04/27/2012 10:05:50 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: DNA.2012
A sober evaluation - Republicans are either: 1) Cowards who will not stand for their convictions, 2) Liars who only say they have convictions just to get elected or 3) Actively working to neutralize the social conservative vote or 4) a combination of the above.

Unfortunately the current two party system leaves us the choice of death by Drano or death by rat poison. One is quicker but the other more deceptive. Republicans co-opted and destroyed the tea-party movement, they have seduced and betrayed the social conservative movement (Mitt is more pro homo than even B. Sotero) they have fought against border enforcement, they mocked any who would enforce the natural born requirement, they gave us Dole, McCain, 2 Bushes and Mittens. The party is morally bankrupt, their self serving inaction has also bankrupted the nation. I do not believe that they want limited government, they just want you to believe tyranny will better under the GOP.

7 posted on 04/27/2012 10:07:13 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: TEXOKIE
The chief justice’s agreed that HB 1552, if passed, would immediately be attached to the same law suit that in which the state question is now in federal court in Denver. We also discussed the fact that an amendment to the OK constitution would be far better than a law.

So what's wrong with joining the suit in Denver? The more states the merrier - btw in Colorado it is the person-hood amendment to the CO constitution. As far as an OK amendment, why not get a law and them move to amend. Do not let the best be the enemy of the good - especially when the good is going to save lives and make a moral stand.

8 posted on 04/27/2012 10:15:04 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: TEXOKIE

Looks like you’ve got a RINO there!


9 posted on 04/27/2012 10:15:21 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate Rinos and Romney is one of the worst Rinos ever!)
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To: DNA.2012

The GOP leadership nationwide is just as immersed in eugenics as the creepiest liberals are in supporting abortion “rights”.


10 posted on 04/27/2012 10:50:44 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Liberals vote the way they feel, conservatives vote the way they think. NRA <BCC><)
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To: DaveyB
A sober evaluation - Republicans are either:
1) Cowards who will not stand for their convictions,
2) Liars who only say they have convictions just to get elected or
3) Actively working to neutralize the social conservative vote or
4) a combination of the above.

Great post, short and dead on Davey.

11 posted on 04/28/2012 12:42:17 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: DNA.2012

What did they fall for? What ‘could happen’. Where are the ones with a spine to stand up for what they believe - NO MATTER WHAT! Where is that Patriotic spirit in this country? Instead of what’s in it for them.


12 posted on 04/28/2012 12:56:53 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: itsahoot

The Republican Establishment often says “Sell out on social issues just this one more election!”


13 posted on 04/28/2012 12:58:43 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Friendofgeorge
I keep hearing that the economy trumps Social Issues in the upcoming election

Well it started with mitt in '08, when some where campaigning for him and calling him a good conservative - yet he had gay marriage and abortion laws under his belt. Social issues took a back seat, like in the trunk back seat.

Yet in '08 these were big for voters and every preceding year but many just settled for whatever. Now, it appears the moral fiber of our country is just gone. Now it's if you sit on the wrong couch. Not a mystery what is next on the agenda for America.

14 posted on 04/28/2012 1:08:58 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: DNA.2012

Yes, stop being so pure for just a bit - we have an election to win. So embrace diversity and think of a mother’s rights while we have you on (a throat) hold.

GO NEWT!! He’s STILL on the ballot! Disregard the maggot’s panic attacks.


15 posted on 04/28/2012 1:15:06 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Randy Larsen
Looks like you’ve got a RINO there!

LOL!
I get the sarcasm, and yeah, the overuse (and complete misuse) of the term "RINO" is obnoxious, and an embarrassment to this site.

16 posted on 04/28/2012 1:29:55 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DNA.2012

Yes - prolifers should continue to vote for RINOs in general elections.

You must remember, however, that the word “primary” is now a verb.


17 posted on 04/28/2012 3:43:55 AM PDT by impimp
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To: DNA.2012; cripplecreek; Windflier; sand88; narses; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Dr. Sivana; ...
Take it out of Mitt Romney's hide this fall. He is the ultimate Chamber of Commerce candidate, described elsewhere on FR as Oskar Schindler without the conscience, perfectly willing to exploit slave labor but, unlike Schindler, totally unprincipled and not willing to play the game for higher purposes.

This should also tell those who delude themselves that GOP legislators will somehow "hold Romney's feet to the fire" and not let him do blah, blah, blah, what GOP legislators REALLY respond to all too often: money, money and more money. If this is happening in Oklahoma, imagine how eager Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, McConnell and the rest will be to outdo the Oklahoma hayseeds in abandoning the babies with glee. Those boys in DC are the major leaguers when it comes to sellouts of principle. "OOOOOOH, they like to do a little side step. Now you see 'em, now you don't....." This exercise in Vichy "Republicanism" in which legislators lusting for business cash stand idly by while the next 54 million or more infants are dismembered and slaughtered is, do not forget, taking place in OKLAHOMA not Taxachusetts, not Californicate, not Illanoy, not just at the 2012 GOP National Convention, but Oklahoma in the Bible Belt!!!

Does anyone else remember when WE had a Republican Party? Some say we need a third party. Maybe, it is more accurate to say we need a second party again.

TOM HOEFLING for POTUS on the American Party. He says what he means and he means what he says. What a concept!

18 posted on 04/28/2012 4:16:54 AM PDT by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: DaveyB
Republicans are either: 1) Cowards who will not stand for their convictions

That has become readily apparent given the number of Republicans who claim to be Conservative but espouse the need to support, yet again, another RINO candidate.

Remember, they aren't "principles" if your willing to toss them aside.

19 posted on 04/28/2012 4:38:34 AM PDT by voicereason (Dems, Pubbies...too often a one-sided coin.)
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To: DaveyB

It already IS an [expensive] Oklahoma law suit. It is not with other states. It is the amendment to the OK Constitution and the law the people tried to pass recently regarding Sharia law. Fields explained to my friend that if the law regarding defining life had passed, it would right away be challenged in court and would be a further expense to the burdened Oklahoma taxpayer. He is not suggesting we put it off indefinitely. He is saying there is another way to do it, as I understand it...by state question/amendment by the people to the Constitution.

I had thought he was a RINO too, but I’ve been following his voting record, and I’m not satisfied that that is what is going on in this instance.


20 posted on 04/28/2012 9:56:16 AM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: richardtavor

Look up the word “fact” in the dictionary.


21 posted on 04/28/2012 3:16:08 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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Note TEXOKIE's comments. Lawsuits against good conservative laws (all kinds) passed by state legislatures are immeditiate issued (is that the right word?) not only by non-gov institutions and organizations, but by the fedgove as well. Insanity reigns...

22 posted on 04/28/2012 3:45:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah; All
There's always a quibble or equivocation on the part of Republicans when it comes to pursuing the issues important to Conservatives. The Leftists, on the other hand, pursue their agenda with alacrity, with zeal, and with ruthlessness, never taking their eyes off the prize.

The Republican Party, IMHO, is finished. In a time of potentially catastrophic national crises, economic, social, and military, it is a pompous claque of flaccid dilettantes.

I'm finished with the Republican Party. I've been a registered Republican since 1968 and I've been betrayed by them too many times. I'll not vote for Romney this November, nor will I vote for any candidate who does not unreservedly pursue the Conservative ideals I hold dear.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

23 posted on 04/28/2012 4:41:34 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: DNA.2012
“Sell out on social issues just this one more election!”

Slouching to Gomorrah by Judge Bork, told us what we were hell bent on doing.

24 posted on 04/29/2012 9:36:37 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Thanks for the clarification. The article seemed a little one-sided to me. Based on the replies a lot of readers are eager to jump on anything that puts elected Republicans in a bad light and proclaim that it is proof that they are RINOs. At this point, to many conservatives, being a politician and a registered Republican proves that you are a RINO.


25 posted on 04/29/2012 9:54:18 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; All

You make a good point. We conservatives are all too often so cynical that we condemn our officials before having all the facts.

Unfortunately, the suspicions are all too often valid about Republican politicians. And my friend (as well as myself!) are willing to entertain that concern about Republican elected officials “being RINO”/.

However, in this case, my friend actually SPOKE with the official on the committee who voted down the legislation for reasons that she/he reported were sufficient to allay that concern. I was most grateful he/she sent me the information, because i was quite concerned as well.

You are most welcome for the clarification!

texokie


26 posted on 04/29/2012 10:17:46 AM PDT by TEXOKIE
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