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Obama’s Space Shuttle funeral dirge a show for all to see
Canada Free Press ^ | April 29, 2012 | Judi McLeod

Posted on 04/29/2012 3:18:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Those lucky enough to still be here to look back at history post Barack Obama will recognize the last sight-piggyback funeral dirge of the once noble Space Shuttle as the Obama Regime’s defining moment.

Were an artist to paint a picture of a small boy looking at up at his flying kite as the space shuttle passed over Manhattan yesterday, no portrait of the story of America’s deliberate ruin at the hands of a single politician could ever come closer to the truth.

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Few will remember that it was on the fullest moon of the year last January when NASA scientists were told they wouldn’t be able to visit any longer and that in his new budget, President Obama planned to eliminate the space program’s manned moon missions.

Now that it’s all over, NASA is left behind with its glory days fast fading as the shill to entice companies to build private spacecraft to ferry astronauts to the space station after the space shuttle retires.

In Obama’s Ban Free Market world, how many volunteer entrepreneurs will build private spacecraft to ferry astronauts to the NASA-abandoned space station?

The American moon mission was America’s finest moment in time, signaling to the world not just proof of American ingenuity but keeping aflame man’s dream to reach the moon.

In this final chapter, Obama didn’t just gut the space program’s manned moon missions, he flew proof of America’s dead dream over Washington and New York landmarks.

The American astronaut and the concept of space shuttles have been relegated almost overnight to the obscurity of museum relics.

Every child who flies a kite with big dreams of someday reaching the moon will look to the space missions of other nations now and not their own.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: achievement; amexceptionalism; deathofthewest; discovery; dismantlingamerica; enemywithin; exploration; marxistcoup; nasa; obamunism; space; spaceshuttle; thedestroyers
John P. Holdren, Obama Science and Technology Czar, has used his White House tenure to level the playing field and cripple the United States.
1 posted on 04/29/2012 3:18:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yet another sign of a once-great nation`s continuing decline. And not a peep from the muddled masses.


2 posted on 04/29/2012 3:33:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Virgil Goode 2012)
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"If I had sons they would look
like the Muslim DC Snipers!"

- Barack Hussein Obama





Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammed

THE MUSLIM DC SNIPERS


3 posted on 04/29/2012 3:45:13 AM PDT by devolve (---- ----subhumans should be tossed in a Hannibal pit with wild boars-----)
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To: ScottinVA

First: Kudos for a Canadian newspaper for telling it like it is.
Second: The sheeple want bread and and games. They dont care about how great the country is. They want other peoples money,land and stuff.
Soon the Chinese flag will replace ours on the moon. It willbe a dark day when it happens.


4 posted on 04/29/2012 3:51:54 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney is an expert on abuse against those serving as patriots in uniform.


"National Guard Lt. Anthony Circosta poses in his backyard in Agawam, Mass., on June 9, 2007.
At left, his wife Danielle and daughter Kylie, 2, talk near the swing set. Circosta,
a decorated Iraq War veteran, seemed like an ideal candidate for a pardon from
then-Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for the 29-year-old's boyhood conviction
for a BB gun shooting. Romney denied the pardon,
twice, despite the recommendation of the Governor's Council.
"



"Governor Orders POW/MIA Flags Flown for Former Prisoners of War Recognition Day"

"Office of the Governor of the State of Alaska ^ | 04-09-09 | Gov. Sarah Palin
April 9, 2009, Juneau, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today signed a proclamation declaring April 9, 2009,
as Former Prisoners of War Recognition Day. The governor has ordered POW/MIA flags
to be flown in honor and memory of American men and women
who have placed themselves in harm’s way and faced the horrors of combat."
“The price paid by POW/MIA soldiers in defense of liberty is worthy of our highest
gratitude and most solemn remembrance,” Governor Palin said.
“On this day and always, they are in our thoughts and prayers. We will never forget them or their service.”

5 posted on 04/29/2012 4:06:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He ought to be ashamed of himself.


6 posted on 04/29/2012 4:08:14 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Space Shuttle was a bad idea from day one. I honestly don’t know why anyone mourns its retirement. It opens the way for private companies to move into space and reduce the cost of getting to orbit. I say good riddance.


7 posted on 04/29/2012 4:17:30 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

The main problem with retiring the shuttle program and developing private space projects seems to nbe keeping NASA as some wacky sort of moozlum science outreach...and we all know how into science the moozlum culture is.


8 posted on 04/29/2012 4:23:32 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: ScottinVA; All

To Obama and the Left, the Shuttle funeral dirge represents the funeral for American greatness.

How interesting that the same cities where terrorists flew planes into landmarks, the Obama administrations chooses as photo-op backdrops to showcase for the world the death of America’s ingenuity and can do spirit - socialist smothering of The Right Stuff.


9 posted on 04/29/2012 4:24:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: saganite
The Space Shuttle was a bad idea from day one

Actually, it was a good idea, but so badly executed that it never should have been allowed to fly.

Another gift from the Nixon Administration.

10 posted on 04/29/2012 4:27:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Yorlik803
First: Kudos for a Canadian newspaper for telling it like it is.

Um, not exactly. The shuttle program was really ended by George W. Bush after the loss of Columbia. But Bush was also the one who initiated the Constellation/Ares/Orion/etc program to get American BACK into space, back to the Moon and beyond.

And to be more accurate, while the shuttle was ended by Bush, it was really killed before metal was even cut for Enterprise by poor design choices that drove overambitious expectations and major engineering flaws. The two key among many were the need to make the payload bay large enough to handle the biggest USAF/NRO spy satellites (NASA wanted a smaller, simpler shuttle) and the decision to mount the return vehicle on the SIDE of the launch stack rather than on the top (see how the USAF's X-37 mini-shuttles are launched compared to the shuttle).

I've had a lot of sadness over seeing the end of the shuttle program and seeing the surviving shuttles retired, cannibalized and sent of to be museum displays. But I also recognize that, as someone who watched Enterprise's ALTs on a B&W TV and got to stay home (several times) to watch the first spaceflight of Columbia (this time on a color TV), those emotions are driven more by nostalgic remembrance of what the shuttle promised to be rather than what it actually was.
11 posted on 04/29/2012 4:34:50 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: saganite
The Space Shuttle was a bad idea from day one. I honestly don’t know why anyone mourns its retirement. It opens the way for private companies to move into space and reduce the cost of getting to orbit. I say good riddance.

It opens up nothing. It closes doors. Obama used "commercial" to gut exploration and U.S. power (as in Elon Musk's SpaceX -- Musk also has an elec car company and a solar panel company -- all get government funding -- and Musk repays with Obama campaign money and an inaugural ball). Plain and simple.

If you don't understand that, you can't see the forest for the trees.

12 posted on 04/29/2012 4:35:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Jim Noble

Besides, Obama can use the money from the space program to fund social welfare programs, low interst government loans and any other entitlement he can think of. He can get alot more votes from the societal knuckledraggers for that spending than from a space program.


13 posted on 04/29/2012 4:40:35 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Jim Noble

Besides, Obama can use the money from the space program to fund social welfare programs, low interst government loans and any other entitlement he can think of. He can get alot more votes from the societal knuckledraggers for that spending than from a space program.


14 posted on 04/29/2012 4:40:35 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: tanknetter
...., those emotions are driven more by nostalgic remembrance of what the shuttle promised to be rather than what it actually was.

No it's driven by knowledge and an understanding of what has happened.

There was a program in place to move beyond Shuttle and it was delayed. This provided the anti-America crowd their opening to "re-evaluate the program, pronounce it dead and offer no plan to replace it.

Programs were submitted that would fit in under the budget cap given but they were ignored.

It was set up to die on the vine.

15 posted on 04/29/2012 4:42:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We shall see but it’s a safe bet that the NASA replacement was never going to fly. As for the shuttle, it existed to serve the ISS and the ISS served to justify the shuttle. The perfect circle jerk and together they have stalled our space program for 30 years.


16 posted on 04/29/2012 4:50:01 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite

That “circle jerk” proved that humans can construct, transport and assemble (and have them work as planned on cue) complex structures in space.

What did you do today?


17 posted on 04/29/2012 5:12:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Russ

Yup. As an engineer, I know I’m more inspired by government handouts, welfare programs and Obumo’s relentless drive toward mediocrity.
Say what you will, the US space program was the platform from which engineers were born, new technologies developed, and limitations destroyed. Contrast that with phoney wind and solar power companies that were economically feasible only with massive subsidies and yielded little in the way of new technologies.


18 posted on 04/29/2012 5:46:50 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"It opens up nothing. It closes doors. Obama used "commercial" to gut exploration and U.S. power (as in Elon Musk's SpaceX -- Musk also has an elec car company and a solar panel company -- all get government funding -- and Musk repays with Obama campaign money and an inaugural ball). Plain and simple."

Right on. The private sector being nurtured is just crony capitalism subsisting on government contracts. The decision to end the shuttle before a replacement system was developed is the type of fork in the road decision that crushes the human spirit and perfectly symbolizes the decline of the US lead by Obama. Learn Chinese or Russian if you want to be part of a new human spaceflight program.

19 posted on 04/29/2012 5:58:47 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Diogenesis
That American Presidents in uniform pic is PRICELESS!!!

Outstanding! LOL. The muslim outfit on 0 is great, but the band uni on BJ is simply hysterical!

20 posted on 04/29/2012 6:03:42 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The first and last men to walk upon the moon, Neil Armstrong and Eugene Cernan, testify at a Congressional hearing that NASA is a national disgrace.

"For a country that has invested so much for so long to achieve a leadership position in space exploration and exploitation, this condition is viewed by many as lamentably embarrassing and unacceptable." ... Neil Armstrong

"NASA and the present Administration's now obvious agenda to dismantle a space program that has been five decades in the making." ... Eugene Cernan

And from Cernan and Armstrong's point of view, the US space program is headed down the extraterrestrial crapper.

21 posted on 04/29/2012 6:12:48 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There’s only one candidate who’s advocating the revitalization of the USA’s Space Program.

3 2 1...Blast Off. Go Newt Go!


22 posted on 04/29/2012 6:16:16 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: saganite
We shall see but it’s a safe bet that the NASA replacement was never going to fly. As for the shuttle, it existed to serve the ISS and the ISS served to justify the shuttle. The perfect circle jerk and together they have stalled our space program for 30 years.

There was actually a successful test launch of the manned-vehicle stack (using the SRB derivative and a boilerplate capsule) prior to the program being put into a terminal holding pattern.

The biggest issue is that the future US space program was supposed to go in two different directions: LEO for getting to the ISS and doing micro-gravity science, and then out to the Moon, asteroids and Mars.

The Bush plan envisioned a common crew vehicle and shuttle-derived launch hardware that could fulfill both sets of missions. The current plan which transfers a lot of the responsibility to private ventures like SpaceX (which is about to launch an unmanned cargo vehicle to the ISS, and is working on a crewed vehicle for ISS work as well) neglects a lot of the deep-space (Moon and beyond) capability.

This isn't just foolish, it's downright dangerous. The fact is that this little rock we're all living on has eaten a good number of mass-extinction-producing asteroids/comments in the past, and will inevitably do so in the future (in fact, we're a bit overdue for one). The human race is now the ONLY species that this planet has produced that have the capability to save their a**es from that kind of thing. The technological capability IS there (and it doesn't involve popping off the world's ICBM arsenals at an incoming asteroid - which is sci-fi lunacy). It just needs to be developed and tested. Going out to asteroids and doing long-duration missions to Mars is the ONLY way we're going to have the capability ready to go when (NOT "if") we need it.
23 posted on 04/29/2012 6:23:06 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: bossmechanic
Say what you will, the US space program was the platform from which engineers were born, new technologies developed, and limitations destroyed.

Exactly right! And you are in good company. Neil Armstrong argued this same point in his Congressional testimony last Fall ...

Without an inspirational space program, Armstrong argued, the US stands to lose its engineering edge. "A substantial current and long range threat is, and will be," he said, "the downward trend in engineering degrees granted in this country and the substantial increase in such graduates in other parts of the world."

I find it sad that you would have to debate this point or counter spurious allegations that the best and brightest engineers are motivated by government handouts, on a conservative website.

24 posted on 04/29/2012 6:28:29 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

While on the level of national pride and symbols of aspiration, I think the author is spot on. However, on the rational level, the STS program is an acme example of big government. It costs about $1 billion per launch cycle. Because of its architecture, what it can haul is limited from the standpoint of dimensions, hazards and weight.

One of my college professors worked on STS planning. He stated that the risk of loss of a given mission was 1/100. We lost two craft and crews in 135 launch cycles.

Manned space launches should have been privatized long ago. We would have more people in space for less money and we would have had a diversity of launch capabilities.

I am happy to see that money-sucking monstrosity retired to the big government museum of big government program artifact.


25 posted on 04/29/2012 6:40:34 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: saganite

True that the NASA replacement will never fly. NASA cannot produce such science today, it is an agency of EEO numbers and social goals (Muslim outreach now) and will never get back into space unless it pays somebody else to get them there. Years of Affirmative Action hiring and promotions have consequences. NASA employees drink coffee, read the paper, and try to impede the work of others.

The space shuttle was the result of work from 4 decades ago and far outlived it’s original design goals. The capable NASA employees are long gone and their experience is wasted. Don’t blame Obama, US people can go look in the mirror, it’s taken decades to slowly achieve this state.


26 posted on 04/29/2012 6:48:37 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: saganite
The Space Shuttle was a bad idea from day one.
I almost agree, but I'd give it a few more years, let's say ten.
Then I'd ask the question, "It's been going up and down for a decade, we've spent billions and billions, lost seven lives and what do we the taxpayer have to show for it?"
The answer at year ten is NADA, and the same answer is true today. A thirty year program that essentially did nothing but waste money.
27 posted on 04/29/2012 6:52:33 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: tanknetter

The shuttle was old and it wasnt really designed to last as long as it did. NASA really got its moneys worth.
But Obama took a knife to the whole manned space program and with it killed a lot of American jobs.
Now we have to hitch rides with the Soviets. Thats a disgrace IMHO.


28 posted on 04/29/2012 7:08:46 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: tanknetter

The shuttle was old and it wasnt really designed to last as long as it did. NASA really got its moneys worth.
But Obama took a knife to the whole manned space program and with it killed a lot of American jobs.
Now we have to hitch rides with the Soviets. Thats a disgrace IMHO.


29 posted on 04/29/2012 7:08:46 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Jim Noble

Actually, it was a good idea, but so badly executed

The Air Force design was the good idea, the actual design was the poor execution. Both decisions done for political reasons.


30 posted on 04/29/2012 7:11:18 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: saganite
Wow! Someone else who actually hasn't fallen for NASA's BS.

ML/NJ

31 posted on 04/29/2012 7:19:20 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Now that it’s all over, NASA is left behind with its glory days fast fading as the shill to entice companies to build private spacecraft

...AND as the shill for global warming propagandists.

32 posted on 04/29/2012 7:19:58 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Were an artist to paint a picture of a small boy looking at up at his flying kite as the space shuttle passed over Manhattan yesterday, no portrait of the story of America’s deliberate ruin at the hands of a single politician could ever come closer to the truth.

Powerful stuff.

33 posted on 04/29/2012 7:32:43 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Earlier in the week I saw a caption on a Shuttle pic that was being sent from Houston to DC. It basically stated that it was on a "victory lap".

Just another example of how delusional the pro-Obama MSM is. Calling the funeral of our space program a victory lap is mind boggling.

34 posted on 04/29/2012 7:48:41 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I went fishing. Caught some too! Thanks for asking.


35 posted on 04/29/2012 9:47:56 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: theBuckwheat

The issue of safety is a bigger issue than most consider.

Would you insure a private company that flew people into space?

As it is now commercial has no customer but government (and that’s being quickly strangled by the Obama administration).....so where is the profit for the commercial companies??????

Our science and technology is going down the tubes and the happy campers pushing “commercial” aka subsidized Obama picks are lapping up tax dollars while the lapping up is still possible.

Anyone who fails to see that this has been orchestrated deliberately to dismantle the U.S. manned space program, doesn’t know what has been happening, or is happy to see it gone.


36 posted on 04/29/2012 12:37:28 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
...AND as the shill for global warming propagandists.

Exactly. The watermelon is the Obama national emblem.

37 posted on 04/29/2012 12:41:44 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You should see how many people have signed up to go to space in the Branson/Rutan venture, and then there is this:

Bigelow Aerospace Soars with Private Space Station Deals

A private space company offering room on inflatable space habitats for research has found a robust international market, with eager clients signing up from space agencies, government departments and research groups....

http://www.space.com/9358-bigelow-aerospace-soars-private-space-station-deals.html


38 posted on 04/29/2012 6:00:09 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

That’s nice. Can they turn a profit with that? Where’s the ride?

Bigelow had to lay people off recently because there is no rocket he can use.

Insurance! Who will insure these trips?

The government needs to foot the bill (it needs to focus on REAL work not all the bureaucracy it’s loaded itself down with that’s eating its lunch, nor the green direction it’s employing). There was (is) money but the powers that be want to kill manned space. Commercial can’t afford to fund such high risk projects — investors see too much risk.

These programs push technology and science (look how the space program has touched every aspect of our lives — almost minute by minute). If we turn our backs on pushing outward, America will fall back while other countries fill the vacuum (countries that do not like us or our form of government). Growing countries fund these programs because they’ve seen how it helps build their commercial, scientific and technology power.

Once a market is recognized (a profit to be made) then TRUE commercial companies scramble to join in on the effort.

This is more than a few billionaires buying a ride.....and what are they riding — where is their transport?


39 posted on 04/30/2012 2:10:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Everyone bought into the drive by medias “we were great once theme” and seemed to be satisfied. These cretans will have no resistance with thier final assualt


40 posted on 04/30/2012 3:43:31 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Insurance! Who will insure these trips?”

The passengers will agree to liquidated or limited damages, so that is capped. The heirs will have to agree too. The crew will have life insurance and contractually limited claims by heirs. All standard stuff.

The issue that I am curious about is the inability of the company to limit its liability for damage and loss to third parties by falling debris. They could theoretically have almost unlimited liability should one of their large objects land on a sports stadium full of people. In this they have the same problem as commercial operators of nuclear power plants, except government passed a law to assume umbrella coverage for them.


41 posted on 04/30/2012 8:03:13 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

I’m sure if they’re someone important to a major company there would be a clause prohibiting such risk taking.

And you raised a very good point about damages and losses to 3rd parties.

This is not an easy “speed bump” cost for commercial space to absorb.

One “oops” and the company folds.


42 posted on 04/30/2012 12:33:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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