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Serious questions I have been thinking about lately re: Obama, 2012 Election
self | 5/5/2012 | Secret Agent Man

Posted on 05/05/2012 9:52:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man

Concerns for the rest of 2012.

1. Will we actually have an election? In your opinion, given the EOs being pushed through, the DHS bulletproof toll booths, the 450 million JHP rounds snatched up by DHS, Obama delaying action against Iran hoping they prove they've developed a nuke, given the race war Obama and Holder are fomenting, what is your level of concern we actually will not have the election come November?

Not at all, slightly concerned, significant concern, very concerned, extremely concerned

2. If the election does occur as planned, does Obama win it by voter fraud in the states they are contesting the photo voter ID laws?

3. If the election doesn't occur as planned, do you think it will be because Obama performs some action (EO, state of emergency, etc) that he says will suspend/postpone the elections?

4. If Obama loses the election, what do you think the chances are that he won't leave the White House and contest the vote? Even if the vote is too far apart ot be legally contested or ask for a recount?

5. If Obama loses the election do you think he will perform some action that suspends the transfer of power to the president-elect "until whatever crisis/crises is over"?

6. If Obama tries any of this to remain in office longer than he can, when will CWII be declared, who all will declare it, and will we have more police, military and feds with us than against us?

7. If CWII begins, what will be the tangible goals, plans to carry out the goals, how will we organize properly to carry them out, and how do we know when all objectives are truly carried out and finished?

I don't put anything past this guy. I've just been thinking this narcissistic, marxist little bitch isn't leaving even if he loses.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012election; cwii; dictatorship; election2012; kenyanbornmuzzie; martiallaw; mittromney; obama
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To: Secret Agent Man

There will be elections, and if he loses he will leave Jan 20.
The Obama may be all kinds of bad, but he does not have what it takes to take over as tyrant.

Fun to imagine he’ll try though.


41 posted on 05/06/2012 3:44:09 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Secret Agent Man

According to a large number of vanitites posted on this board Obama is to be preferred over the likely GOP nominee. To this end they are tirelessly giving Obama and his supporters issues to exploit against the GOP nominee. There comes a time when those whose candidate has lost to acknowledge the democratice choice. Acceptance does not equate to enthusiastic support.


42 posted on 05/06/2012 3:47:31 AM PDT by monocle
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To: no-to-illegals
A few EMPs and it is game over (imho). It would take years to bring all the lights back

No telecommunications means no way to give orders or exert power.

Look at the burning wells in Kuwait and how long they said it would take to bring them online again.

Now think, the areas to get the lights back first won't be the coasts so much as the areas where power is generated.

Ditto other fuels, food, etc.

43 posted on 05/06/2012 3:54:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: mnehring
"Also, avoid anyone with the name Alex Jones."

Excellent advice.

I have a few intelligent friends that listen to him and their thought processes are obviously colored with Jones' doomsday mindset.

44 posted on 05/06/2012 4:28:28 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Tin foil hat time


45 posted on 05/06/2012 4:39:13 AM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Secret Agent Man

...”I am not saying I know these things WILL happen, I am asking for actual non smartass replies with some reasoning behind them”...

In a world where more and more FR responses look like teen-aged texts than thoughtful contemplation of the subject matter, what can you expect? The torch has passed to the new generation. Of course some of the scenarios you mention could happen. Anyone who has closely watched the past three years has to be concerned about attempted dictatorship. For those who know history, giving more and more ground to a would-be despot without proper concern, is what people do. Personally, I think the military would move in if an overt attempt was made. That is my comfort. A more immediate problem is the racial lawlessness which is going on without any response from the AG. Did you read the story posted earlier about the rape and murder of the elderly couple and what about the two reporters in VA who were beaten up and the story was covered up by the newspaper and other powers-that-be?..The people who do not want us to know the truth are our enemies. Do not be intimidated when you post your thoughts about the “potentials” out there. Think of where medicine, for example, would be without consideration of the “potentials.”
In spite of the generational changes going on, FR is still the best place to go to get the truth.


46 posted on 05/06/2012 4:39:39 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Secret Agent Man

When Bill Clinton ran for reelection in 1996 there was all sorts of chatter that he would, through executive order, cancel the election. Same thing the left said in 2004. Never happened. Won’t happen in 2012.


47 posted on 05/06/2012 5:03:40 AM PDT by EagleInGA
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To: Vendome
If he loses there will be an orderly change of power. And we get The White Horse

Who is "we"? Conservatives lose either way.

48 posted on 05/06/2012 5:05:36 AM PDT by EagleInGA
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To: Secret Agent Man
The Feds play no part in the election. The individual states are responsible for holding the election. Obama would be starting a civil war if he attempted to bar the states from holding an election. He may disrupt some polling stations with his Black Panthers & the like, but he cannot stop 50+ elections.

Obama intends to steal the election through fraudulent voters, hacking the results, & contesting the vote in court. He only has to be successful at this in a few key precincts to win. That the Pubs are running such a weak candidate as Romney makes the cheating more likely to succeed.

If Obama loses despite his massive cheating, he will wreak havoc on this country in his remaining days; pardoning numerous crooks & killers (Corzine & Jamal are at the top of the list), & blatantly using executive orders to further destroy America. I fully expect the display of “sour grapes” to go down in history as the most disgraceful act of any former President. If you think the Clinton trashing of the White House was deplorable, wait until we see what the exiting Obama administration does.

49 posted on 05/06/2012 5:15:15 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

1. We’re screwed.

2. We’re screwed.

3. We’re screwed.

4. We’re screwed.

5. We’re screwed.

6. We’re screwed.

7. We’re screwed.

Q.E.D.


50 posted on 05/06/2012 6:12:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Please feel free to answer any/all issues I raise.

I was merely trying to address and show proof of the underlying issue, that a crisis caused by the failing economy will necessitate he implement emergency measures (never let a crisis go to waste).

Maybe you'll have a better day today...

51 posted on 05/06/2012 6:32:39 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Secret Agent Man

52 posted on 05/06/2012 6:44:24 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Secret Agent Man

Then again, Secret Agent Man, maybe you’re just here trolling for DHS?


53 posted on 05/06/2012 6:55:28 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Secret Agent Man

Guess what, this is a forum, not a soapbox.


54 posted on 05/06/2012 7:41:27 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: knarf
I have a few intelligent friends that listen to him and their thought processes are obviously colored with Jones' doomsday mindset.

Ditto. People like Jones are in the fear business and that plays right into the government's hands. The government doesn't need to have some big conspiracy of camps and 'civil wars', all they need to do is keep enough people afraid they could do this and they are dis-empowered to stand up. Of course, some people just like to live in fear. Others, actually root for CWII to live some fantasy of donning the blue and gray and shooting someone. Those are the ones to really worry about as they often try to fulfill their own prophesy.

55 posted on 05/06/2012 7:47:46 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: monocle
That's a good point. Obama may not need to cheat if self-professed conservatives either vote for him, or just stay home.

I'd be curious to see the overlap between the "I'm sitting this one out" and "Obama won't leave office" crowd.

56 posted on 05/06/2012 7:51:31 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
The rest just sounds like the same thing the left was saying about Bush, and is fanciful for the same reasons.

"The Left," as you call them, frequently imputes their own nefarious thinking to those they perceive to be their enemies.

ML/NJ

57 posted on 05/06/2012 7:51:31 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: EagleInGA
When Bill Clinton ran for reelection in 1996 there was all sorts of chatter that he would, through executive order, cancel the election. Same thing the left said in 2004. Never happened. Won’t happen in 2012.

Way before Clintoon. If you have access to archives of old Bircher publications, Ron Paul newsletters, Krassner's underground papers, you'll see these kind of fears have been promoted for a long time. Almost word for word, they all have predicted a second civil war, cancelling of elections, concentration camps, UN taking over the government, and all sorts of stuff like this. The only difference is now with the internet, more people have access to these type of fearmongers and it is easier to pass it along.

58 posted on 05/06/2012 7:57:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: ml/nj
"The Left," as you call them, frequently imputes their own nefarious thinking to those they perceive to be their enemies.

The right does it too.

59 posted on 05/06/2012 7:59:06 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Obama may not need to cheat if self-professed conservatives either vote for him

You are too new here to remember this, but there was a thing called "Hillary's Secret Warriors"; DNC infiltrators who try to split the base, spread false stories, and cause normal discord to influence votes. There was actually a book about it and the forward even mentioned Free Republic as one of their main targets. (no longer in print).

60 posted on 05/06/2012 8:01:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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