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The Time is Right for Reparations (No, he's serious!)
The Washington Informer ^ | May 3, 2012 | Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr.

Posted on 05/06/2012 1:18:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

For more than 45 million black Americans, there are many issues that unite or divide us. Undoubtedly, the issue of reparations for African people in general and in particular for black Americans is an issue began as a divisive topic but now receives support from a board cross-section of blacks in America.

Of course, there are some who wanted to table a national discussion of reparations in the aftermath of the election of President Barack H. Obama. Yet, there were many others who have argued that now is the most propitious time to accelerate the national dialogue about reparations because there is a "brother" in the White House.

This is a pivotal year because of the November elections. Any issue that is related to race will be used by those who oppose to President Obama. The goal of conservatives is to polarize American voters to vote their racial prejudice instead of voting their conscience about the future of the nation as an inclusive participatory democracy.

Given the recent polarization around the calls for equal justice and fairness in the Trayvon Martin killing, it would be naïve to think that race will not play a factor in the upcoming elections. The truth is race is just not a problem that crept onto the national scene accidentally. Race has been a social, economic, and political problem in America for more than 200 years. This is nothing new. What is new, however, is how the victims of racism see themselves, and how the perpetrators of racism view themselves.

Fortunately, renowned legal scholars such as Harvard's Charles Ogletree and others have articulated a rational defense for reparations, which would be therapeutic not only for black Americans, but also for all Americans.

I have consistently supported the call and the demand for reparations that go beyond whatever monetary compensation. Reparations are also about "repairing the damage" that was done to millions of African people, not just in America, but in the Caribbean, Central and South America, in Africa and throughout the rest of the world.

The United Nations is slowly working on establishing a permanent memorial to the victims of the infamous trans-Atlantic slave trade. In Washington, D.C., the construction of the African American Museum has begun. The United States Senate has issued an "apology" for slavery. And in my home state of North Carolina, Gov. Bev Perdue has just called for the state to spend $10.3 million in "reparations" to the victims of a vicious eugenics state program that sterilized thousands of people against their will. Most of those who were unjustly and savagely sterilized were black. Again, no amount of money could ever justify or rectify that awful and callous past. Still, Gov. Perdue's actions are the right steps at the right time. Healing is a long-term process. It takes time. The perpetrators of racism need a "repairing" of their minds and hearts.

It is interesting to note that even amidst a recovering of the American economy from the threshold of severe economic ruin, billions of dollars are being spent by candidates and campaigns for political office throughout the U.S. like they have unlimited money-trees to spend without reservation or limitation. The point here is so much of the "old money" and ingrained wealth of the nation came directly from the systematic economic exploitation of African people during 500 years of slavery and post-slavery institution-building. That is why it will take a tremendous calculation to determine a full accounting of the financial and human toll of the slave trade and its aftermath. Harper's magazine did a study that concluded that the U.S. owes black Americans more than $100 trillion in reparations. It is probably more than that.

This may not be the perfect time to raise this issue. Judging by the past, there is never a perfect time. Today is as good as any time. Let's work harder on the issue of reparations. We can begin by supporting the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America (NCOBRA), which will hold its national convention in Philadelphia, June 22-24. Reparations for black Americans should be supported by all Americans.

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Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr. is president of the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network (HSAN) and Education Online Services Corporation and serves as the national director of Occupy the Dream. He can be reached at drbenjamin.chavis@gmail.com


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Or repatriation. Whichever.
1 posted on 05/06/2012 1:19:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m in favor of reparations for Irish Americans for the abuse we took.


2 posted on 05/06/2012 1:23:27 AM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I addressed this in another thread regarding UN concerns about lands taken from American natives. I'll try to find the entire list I posted regarding how many nations/cultures should be included in such stupid reparations because of conquest that occurred in those times.

Get over it! My Scottish family has. They were oppressed by the English. Other than the radicals, most Scottish just don't give a shit about the William Wallace history. They just want to live the good life. Sheesh.

3 posted on 05/06/2012 1:26:36 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr. is president of the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network (HSAN)

That should just about say everything about his credibility.

4 posted on 05/06/2012 1:28:35 AM PDT by NYTexan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr. is president of the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network

Did we need to know anyhting more than that to understand his point!

5 posted on 05/06/2012 1:32:35 AM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can’t have one without the other. After all, if they want reparations, the only humane thing to do would be to repatriate them to their “homelands” at the same time. They obviously aren’t Americans, right?

It’d be worth it to get rid of the deadwood. So, by all means, give reparations to each and every black person in America who wants it — providing they renounce their American citizenship, self deport to whichever “homeland” in Africa agrees to take them, and understand fully that they will NEVER EVER BE ALLOWED BACK IN.


6 posted on 05/06/2012 1:38:15 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: MindBender26; NYTexan

Believe it or not, he’s actually well-known and listened to in the “urban” milieu, as it were. Not as much as Ben Jealous of the NAACP, Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, but almost. This could happen in Mr. Obama’s second term. But then again, what couldn’t?


7 posted on 05/06/2012 1:42:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you say so...but he preaches to the choir.


8 posted on 05/06/2012 1:48:41 AM PDT by NYTexan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Almost all American slaves were captured and delivered to white merchants by other Africans.

Is it not fair that Black African slavers be required to pay reparations, too?


9 posted on 05/06/2012 1:50:28 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: NYTexan

I think it’s a kind of mass “win the lottery” delusion that many have. I will move to another country the day it’s enacted.


10 posted on 05/06/2012 1:54:17 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$10 trillion (and counting) isn’t enough??


11 posted on 05/06/2012 1:56:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I will gladly pay $100,000 to each and every slave my family owned in the last 100 years.

Oh, wait, there weren't any.

Enough is enough. I have rebuilt my world from scratch a couple of times in less time than that.

12 posted on 05/06/2012 2:03:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The goal of conservatives is to polarize American voters...”

WTF?

Has this guy been in a coma for the past 3 and a half years?


13 posted on 05/06/2012 2:03:31 AM PDT by Exeter (A government that doesn't trust its people is a government that shouldn't be trusted.)
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To: zeestephen
Is it not fair that Black African slavers be required to pay reparations, too?

Their progeny don't have any money!

14 posted on 05/06/2012 2:04:26 AM PDT by NYTexan
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To: Exeter

Black Americans owe me. My great great grandfather lost a leg at gettysburg.


15 posted on 05/06/2012 2:06:57 AM PDT by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reparations are fine with me.

Mohamed sold you into slavery, go get a refund from him!

16 posted on 05/06/2012 2:08:16 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Lancey Howard

Exactly! Wellfare, foodstamps, WIC, public housing, etc.

When does it end?

Well, when it does...take cover!


17 posted on 05/06/2012 2:12:53 AM PDT by NYTexan
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To: zeestephen

“Almost all American slaves were captured and delivered to white merchants by other Africans.”

Very true and a proven fact.

What few people ever mention (or are afraid to) is that the ones that were captured and shipped to America were the slowest runners and not smart enough to avoid capture.

Just a thought to ponder.


18 posted on 05/06/2012 2:23:42 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree on reparations. For every Black person alive today who was a slave prior to 1865, we give them 40 acres and a mule.


19 posted on 05/06/2012 2:26:06 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It should surprise no one that the American Negro expects reparations just as they expect government handouts, it is called Welfare. Why should they do anything to receive money they didn’t earn or claim history that isn’t theirs to claim. True Americans of any race, color, or background work for a living.


20 posted on 05/06/2012 2:33:26 AM PDT by yoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I go with both. We give them the cash but with a clause that with it they renounce citizenship and use the cash to set up a new life back where their ancestors were taken from.
If they have such a love for Africa and think it would have been a better place but since slaver trades{more often than not their own people} sold the best and brightest to whites here,then here is their chance to return to their homeland and prove it. See how long it would take for them to figure out how rotten their homeland is and see how good they have it here.
Friggin crybabies.


21 posted on 05/06/2012 2:36:43 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Exeter

22 posted on 05/06/2012 2:39:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr. - What you preach is poison.

You must have a very black (morally speaking) soul.

Quite sincerely, ‘Pod.


23 posted on 05/06/2012 2:40:22 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would suggest that the good doctor look to the ancestors of the man in the white house while seeking reparations. The Arab blacks were the main conduit for rounding up and shipping your kin to the new world.
24 posted on 05/06/2012 2:57:11 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: JimmyMc

I couldn’t agree more! Somebody grabbed my great-great grandfather right off the boat and put him in the Union Army.

I’ve lived in the South for all of my adult life now and have never been able to live down the shame.

/S


25 posted on 05/06/2012 2:59:04 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can the reparations be paid in lead?


26 posted on 05/06/2012 3:03:07 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: Rearden

LOL! That cracked a smile from this crusty fart.


27 posted on 05/06/2012 3:06:40 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We have already paid reparations in the form of the two worst, most costly and most wasteful wars in our history; the Civil War and the War on Poverty. We are long since square on the deal.


28 posted on 05/06/2012 3:14:01 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: JimmyMc

BAM! I’m Irish and I want MY MONEY NOW!


29 posted on 05/06/2012 3:17:11 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reparations goes both ways, Benny boy. We fought a civil war, conducted a Reconstruction, instituted welfare, and a plethora of civil rights-related legislation. And you have, in YOUR words, a “brother” in the White House.

No one forces black women to bear children in fatherless families. No one is making young blacks fail at school. No one pushes them to commit the disproportionate amounts of violent crime that land them into the prison system.

Get over it, Ben. You want reparations? You got them already.. a long time ago.


30 posted on 05/06/2012 3:19:16 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reparations are paid to the victim by the criminal.

I suppose Chavez will think it unreasonable that the recipients be obliged to prove that they are in fact descendents of slaves.

While I’m not a lawyer, I’m under the impression that in our legal system responsibility for a crime does not pass down to descendents of the criminal. So who will pay?


31 posted on 05/06/2012 3:36:04 AM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: JimmyMc

I was concerned for a moment till i realized we’re off the hook, we can just pay for reparations with Obamas STASH!!!//


32 posted on 05/06/2012 3:43:07 AM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ok. If we each front for a ticket for any African that wants to renounce citizenship and return to Africa then I am all for reparations.......


33 posted on 05/06/2012 3:46:28 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
330,000 White Union servicemen died between the years 1861-1865 due mainly because the Radical Abolitionist Republicans interfered and had undue influence on the execution of the war. Hundreds of thousands of servicemen were wounded and subject to military connected diseases and suffered throughout remainder of their lives, Hundreds of thousands of families were left without fathers, sons, husbands and suffered untold hardships.
Those are your reparations MF!
34 posted on 05/06/2012 3:54:59 AM PDT by BilLies ( The Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , PBS etc., hate your Loyal American guts!))
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To: SECURE AMERICA

We tried that once, remember?
Ever heard of Liberia?

The Americo-Liberians suppressed the tribes and local minorities brutally, and maintained a rigid caste system with themselves at the top, for a hundred years.

The history of Liberia makes for interesting reading. Like Detroit, before it became the Detroit we know today.


35 posted on 05/06/2012 3:57:14 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This should never be considered. Reason number one - All those blacks who think Cleopatra in Egypt was Black first owe to the Jews.... Of course, then there is the matter of generations of welfare recipients who have squandered any legitimacy of receipt of additional government payments.
36 posted on 05/06/2012 4:00:40 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This could happen in Mr. Obama’s second term. But then again, what couldn’t?

Well, he will have more flexibility, for sure...

37 posted on 05/06/2012 4:04:39 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: BilLies

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
Abraham Lincoln in his fourth debate with Stephen Douglas in the campaign for the United States Senate on September 18th of 1858.

“Negro equality! Fudge! How long, in the government of a god, great enough to make and maintain this universe, shall there continue to be knaves to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagogue-ism as this?” – Abraham Lincoln in notes for speeches in September of 1859.

“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” – Abraham Lincoln in his first debate with Stephen Douglas in the campaign for the United States Senate at Ottawa, Illinois on August 21st of 1858.

“I have never had the least apprehension that I or my friends would marry negroes if there was no law to keep them from it, but as Judge Douglas and his friends seem to be in great apprehension that they might, if there were no law to keep them from it, I give him the most solemn pledge that I will to the very last stand by the law of this State, which forbids the marrying of white people with negroes.” – Abraham Lincoln in the fourth debate with Stephen Douglas.


38 posted on 05/06/2012 4:05:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Jumper
Cleopatra wasn't even Egyptian. She was a Ptolomy ... a Greek. Cleopatra VII Philopator (Greek, Κλεοπάτρα Φιλοπάτωρ; Late 69 BC – August 12, 30 BC), known to history as Cleopatra, was the last pharaoh of Ancient Egypt. She was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, a family of Greek origin that ruled Egypt after Alexander the Great's death during the Hellenistic period. The Ptolemies, throughout their dynasty, spoke Greek and refused to speak Egyptian, which is the reason that Greek as well as Egyptian languages were used on official court documents such as the Rosetta Stone. By contrast, Cleopatra did learn to speak Egyptian and represented herself as the reincarnation of an Egyptian goddess, Isis.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra_VII
39 posted on 05/06/2012 4:11:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have to stop Putting Satire on Freerepublic


40 posted on 05/06/2012 4:13:48 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: JimmyMc

I am polish, I am owed from the germans, the russians and probably a few other groups too....

Gimmie gimmie gimmie.....

Maybe we should pay reparations on the agreement that if they ever whine about the “white man keeping them down” that they have to pay back the reparations WITH interest!


41 posted on 05/06/2012 4:16:50 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And what, exactly, have the descendants of freed American slaves offered to pay to the descendants of the Union dead who freed them?

The price for their freedom was paid a long time ago, in blood.


42 posted on 05/06/2012 4:17:28 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My family did not own slaves - in fact, my people came to the USA after the Civil War....

Why should I pay “reparations” to anyone?


43 posted on 05/06/2012 4:17:57 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Sorry but you better watch out ,the 96% that Vote for Obama are all Slaves to the Democrat Liberal Slave Masters. You May have to Pay Out a Lot of money


44 posted on 05/06/2012 4:21:34 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: clee1

Uh, because you’re an evil white person? Do I win?


45 posted on 05/06/2012 4:22:25 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: ballplayer

Hard to tell the difference anymore isn’t it?


46 posted on 05/06/2012 4:23:17 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: clee1

Self censored comment due to restrictions on race related posts.


47 posted on 05/06/2012 4:24:05 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: zeestephen

Perhaps there should be a little gratitude expressed for slavery. The alternative was death, either during the battle or immediately upon losing the battle. The modern term is ‘no quarter.’


48 posted on 05/06/2012 4:25:44 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Future Snake Eater

Have you not heard of the Pigford Case? Remember Shirley Sherod? Billions paid to so called Black Farmers,If you grew a Tomato palnt on your window Sill in New York City you could apply for 50 thousand dollars as a Farmer that was discriminated against because you are Black.
Dont believe me? Google Pigford case and see what I am Talking about,and yes the BROTHER in the White House is Responsible for Extending the Program and Yes ALAN WEST the Co called Conservative Hero Voted to Extend it as well


49 posted on 05/06/2012 4:27:33 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: JimmyMc
I suggest some reparations for that guy in Tulsa that just died after his wife was raped and murdered by a black man who invaded Thieu home.
50 posted on 05/06/2012 4:30:37 AM PDT by Plumberman27
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