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Elizabeth Warren Maintains We All Owe Success To Others
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-06-12 | Skookum

Posted on 05/06/2012 8:52:34 AM PDT by Starman417

She obviously figures she owes her success to her ability to manipulate the victimization of America's First Nation People to secure a teaching position at Harvard; since, according to Ms Warren, no one achieves success on their own.

I hear all this, you know, ‘Well, this is class warfare, this is whatever. No. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own — nobody.

You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for.

You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.

Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea. God bless — keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is, you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.


"What Delusion Does Warren Live In"

Thus Warren justifies the theft of identity and her selfish use of another's victimization by using her dubious claim of being 1/32 Cherokee. A boast that put her in the front of the line to be hired at Harvard by providing two minority Affirmative Action claims: that of being a woman and that of being a First Nation individual. Being part of the only minority group that is a majority, is not being disputed, since being a woman requires no prescribed amount of integrity, but this claim of being a blonde haired blue eyed Cherokee might raise a few eyebrows on the reservation.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: cherokee; fauxcahontas; halfbreed; highcheekbones; indian; warren

1 posted on 05/06/2012 8:52:39 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Marxists will lie to achieve any goal. It is their way and they believe it is their right. Logic be damned.


2 posted on 05/06/2012 8:58:02 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Starman417

She is correct, BUT, who precisely do I owe my success to? We all have benefited from the actions of others - mentors, lenders, investors, partners, spouses, family, employees, customers. There is no general blanket obligation that we have that must be expressed through actions of the state.


3 posted on 05/06/2012 9:01:39 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 11 y/o granddaughter will have more relevant executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Starman417

This is, frankly, old news. It is the opening salvo she used to promote her redistribution candidacy. Her arguments about how much rich people OWE society are bullshit. Marauding bands? Gimme a break - today, when seconds count the police are only minutes away. More than 1/2 of ‘society’ doesn’t pay a damned dime of taxes.

The real deal here is that this privileged academic nutjob used a false claim of Indian heritage to advance her credentials. It was done with the same lying bullshit bravado that drove Hillary Clinton when in New Zealand once to proclaim she was named for Sir Edmund, regardless of the fact Sir Edmund hadn’t climbed Everest until AFTER she was borne.

Crucify her in the tabloids, hound her appearances and never relent on what a lying b!tch she is.


4 posted on 05/06/2012 9:01:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Starman417

First dibs on her kitchen. You just know she has the best stuff ~ so her cook can make every dish perfectly.


5 posted on 05/06/2012 9:01:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gaffer
Still doing the 'no tax' thing eh?

Ronald Reagan himself advanced the idea of eliminating the federal personal income tax on folks below certain income thresholds.

6 posted on 05/06/2012 9:04:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

No personal investment in society, ala no income tax for people below a certain level is wrong. Ronnie was wrong.


7 posted on 05/06/2012 9:07:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Starman417
What an f’in fruitcake.
8 posted on 05/06/2012 9:07:09 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Gaffer
No personal investment in society, ala no income tax for people below a certain level is wrong. Ronnie was wrong.

Then the whole darn country was wrong before the 16th Amendment (save the north during Lincoln's unconctituttional income tax) and a big chunk well after it was implemented.
9 posted on 05/06/2012 9:13:10 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Starman417


10 posted on 05/06/2012 9:14:31 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Starman417

“You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands “

well if you start a factory you DO have to worry about maurauding bands of conficatory taxin’ over regulatin’ liberals so....there’s that..


11 posted on 05/06/2012 9:18:42 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: Starman417

Well, the good thing is one would think she is self destructing - the bad thing is the Libs in MA are so upset over Brown slipping in that they would gladly elect another Kerry (he fought in Vietnam), Kennedy (no matter what branch of the clan), or even this nut job.
Wow, a Senate composed of Warren, Al Franken (who thankfully has seemingly slipped into oblivion), the rest of the assorted nuts and bolts -including the aging RINO’s, and the late night (so called) comedians will have material for a lifetime or two.
People are definitely going to have to get out and VOTE - if not for Romney, at least to keep control of the House and gain control of the Senate - MINUS the RINO’s (where possible, or at least be able to contain them).
I saw segments of Obozo’s rally at VCU yesterday and there were far to many adoring ‘whites’ - not just ‘young’ students, couple of middle aged with one even claiming the economy is fine (or words to that effect - since it was background ‘noise’ and when I heard that line I glanced up and saw some 20-30 something white dude).

I have never attempted it but I guess it is possible to NOT click on an issue or name while voting isn’t it?


12 posted on 05/06/2012 9:19:01 AM PDT by xrmusn (#6/98# Let's start from scratch by voting ALL incumbents out.)
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To: xrmusn

We people in Massachusetts have, for many years, provided entertainment material for the political industry.


13 posted on 05/06/2012 9:25:24 AM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: Don Corleone
“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville
14 posted on 05/06/2012 9:30:43 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Gaffer
Not owing FEDERAL personal income tax does not mean you don't have an investment in society. It also doesn't mean you are not paying taxes.

In America NO ONE avoids contributing to the pile of loot claimed as taxes by government ~ at all levels. And I say NO ONE.

Since everyone knows that your use of the claim that SOMEONE is evading taxes is looked at more as a "criminal charge" better dealt with in court than as a "vast sociological economic challenge" we have to deal with in Congress.

Frankly, your lack of deep understanding of how out of synch our governmental authorities have gotten vis a vis human nature and the needs of free people suggests that you have no investment whatsoever in society!

It is long overdue for repealing the personal income tax laws and changing the 16th amendment that makes them possible.

15 posted on 05/06/2012 9:31:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Starman417

The only tribe she belongs to is the “Hippie”! Checkout the hair part in the middle, the glasses and lack of makeup. Classic 60”s. If she weren’t running for ofice, she would be in the streets with the Occupy Wall Streeet freaks.


16 posted on 05/06/2012 9:34:59 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: jimfree
She is correct, BUT, who precisely do I owe my success to? We all have benefited from the actions of others - mentors, lenders, investors, partners, spouses, family, employees, customers. There is no general blanket obligation that we have that must be expressed through actions of the state.

Exactly. OTOH by her and the left's logic, don't the people who have been abject failures (like OWS protesters) owe the rest of us something for squandering the "opportunities the government gave all of us"?

17 posted on 05/06/2012 9:37:43 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: Starman417
So Steve Jobs created the I-pad because of government backing, good roads and somewhat educated workers the product of our public schools. Of course Jobs had no profit motive in creating this new product and the very idea of an I-pad was the product of a government bureau. Sure...

Imagine if a government Bureau of Technology was responsible for technological innovations. We would still be using DOS with Windows and the Internet still years off.

18 posted on 05/06/2012 9:40:53 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Starman417
You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for.

You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory — and hire someone to protect against this — because of the work the rest of us did.

Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea. God bless — keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is, you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.

"When you live in a rational society, where men are free to trade, you receive an incalculable bonus: the material value of your work is determined not only by your effort, but by the effort of the best productive minds who exist in the world around you.

"When you work in a modern factory, you are paid, not only for your labor, but for all the productive genius which has made that factory possible: for the work of the industrialist who built it, for the work of the investor who saved the money to risk on the untried and the new, for the work of the engineer who designed the machines of which you are pushing the levers, for the work of the inventor who created the product which you spend your time on making, for the work of the scientist who discovered the laws that went into the making of that product, for the work of the philosopher who taught men how to think and whom you spend your time denouncing.

"The machine, the frozen form of a living intelligence, is the power that expands the potential of your life by raising the productivity of your time. If you worked as a blacksmith in the mystics’ Middle Ages, the whole of your earning capacity would consist of an iron bar produced by your hands in days and days of effort. How many tons of rail do you produce per day if you work for Hank Rearden? Would you dare to claim that the size of your pay check was created solely by your physical labor and that those rails were the product of your muscles? The standard of living of that blacksmith is all that your muscles are worth; the rest is a gift from Hank Rearden."

-- From John Galt's Speech, Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

19 posted on 05/06/2012 9:43:44 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Starman417

In that case, why should she be considered fit for the office of Senator?


20 posted on 05/06/2012 9:48:53 AM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: Starman417

Stoopit.

I’m an MVP and no one does the work for me.


21 posted on 05/06/2012 9:56:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Starman417

“counting coup in the tribal lodge of academia”

Lobachevsky just called and said that one will grow legs.

;-)


22 posted on 05/06/2012 9:58:39 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Starman417
You were safe in your factory because of police-forces and fire-forces that the rest of us paid for.

Unfortunately, the odds have increased that you and/or your family members could be killed or injured by a drunken illegal alien on our streets and highways. Your family could be destroyed by drugs being brought into our country by illegal aliens. Your vehicle could be stolen and/or your home burglarized by illegal aliens. We're paying the feds heap big wampum to protect and seal our borders and they aren't doing the job. Warren is nothing but an old, FOS, clueless white hippy.

23 posted on 05/06/2012 10:00:55 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: YankeeReb

Bingo! The welfare recipients should be on a payment plan to pay off the tax-payers.


24 posted on 05/06/2012 10:13:45 AM PDT by sagar
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To: Mr. Jeeves

She’s a plagiarist, too.


25 posted on 05/06/2012 10:14:02 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Starman417
There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own — nobody.

Individualists don't deny the value of cooperation, but in a free society and a rational culture, with a just government, the cooperation has to be voluntary and a mutually beneficial exchange of values. This will tend to promote the well being of all.Government use of force that violates the natural rights of the individual is the opposite of this principle.

26 posted on 05/06/2012 10:24:52 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Starman417

Funny, the corporations and top 10% pay the bulk of taxes used to build all of that infrastructure she speaks of


27 posted on 05/06/2012 10:49:42 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Gaffer

Funny when liberals want to impose their viewpoints, they always talk in this third person and refer to the third person as “Society”. Over my life, when I dealt with liberals in positions in authority, I usually got the “society” talk from them even though my behavior doesn’t affect anyone else.

> Her arguments about how much rich people OWE society are bullshit.


28 posted on 05/06/2012 10:58:17 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Starman417
You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for.

If the factory is presumably the largest employer and largest taxpayer in that town, didn't the FACTORY pay for that road, to educate the workers, etc.?

29 posted on 05/06/2012 11:07:28 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Starman417

I agree with Warren that all Americans owe a collective debt to an identifiable group of fellow Americans. That group would be the founders and the US military, past and present, who’ve had more to do with the opportunities and freedoms available than anyone else.

Any other debts owed are mostly between specific individuals.

But Warren’s BS is just more of the same: an attempt to diminish the successful and excuse the less so.


30 posted on 05/06/2012 11:10:35 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Starman417

Elizabeth Warren is Chief Spreading BS of the Massachusetts Donkey Tribe. So, Spreading BS, you weren’t very shy about using affirmative action to advance yourself. Of course, you’d deny the same opportunity to others out of “fairness” and “equality”? That’s because Spreading BS needs an advantage based on fraud to succeed on life’s playing field.


31 posted on 05/06/2012 11:49:25 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: John Semmens

Paging John, pick up the satire courtesy phone!!


32 posted on 05/06/2012 12:35:54 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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