Posted on 05/09/2012 2:38:30 PM PDT by Yorlik803
Ok,a co-worker is looking to join the USAF. He called the recruiter and after answering a few "get to know you questions" he then asked where he went to high school. My buddy replied he was home schooled and has a High School diploma thru PA homeschool. The recruiter told him that was a problem because the military doesnt take homeschooled grads. Now, this guy has a degree from a state college and is smart. I have never heard of such a thing. My question is has anyone heard of this and what recourse does he have. Thanks in advance
Did he tell the recruiter that he had a higher degree? Sounds like he missed that point.
Tell the recruiter he has a college degree. That ought to solve the issue.
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Maobama’s military doesn’t want homeschool grads. They’re too intelligent and probably too moral for them.
Better yet, just claim to be queer; they’ll probably let him skip OCS and give him a direct commission.
http://home.roadrunner.com/~milhmschlhq/military_enlistment.htm
One semester of college should be enough to qualify him.
He told him. Sorry if I forgot to mention it.
The recruiter told him to go back to school. Sounds like a lazy recruiter to me.
There is more than one recruiter in this country. Shop around. The recruiters want the bonus that goes with the signee.
Homeschooled, been in the Coast Guard 3 years, currently a third.class petty officer.
What I’m getting at is that the recruiter is full of crap.
Former AF Recruiter
Then I got my self respect back
If he has a college degree from an accredited college, that should by pass this silliness. Additionally there are provisions in the regs for “Non traditional” schooling.
Find another recruiter. Have him schedule a firm appointment and walk in with his applicable diplomas
call the guy back and tell him it was “homo schooled”.
Cruachan!
From the Air Force FAQ:
Can I enlist with a GED?
The answer is yes. However, there are many additional criteria for enlisting with a GED as opposed to enlisting with a traditional High School diploma.
These are:
•You must obtain a 65 qualifying score on the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB).
•Under normal circumstances, 1% of our enlisted force accessions are GED holders during a one-year period.
•If you are a GED holder, you can gain the same eligibility as a high school graduate by obtaining 15 or more semester hours of qualifying college credit.
•GED applicants must wait on slots to become available, and this can sometimes mean waiting periods of up to one year.
•You must be at least 18 years of age
Also, read this URL:
http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000033.asp
http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000002/00000240.asp
So, if the academies accept homeschoolers, I don't know why the active military wouldn't.
My nephew was home-schooled, w/ less than a year of college.
Now he’s an Air Force jet mechanic. Sounds like your co-worker got cold feet.
Hum. Home school high diploma is a high school diploma. A higher degree would trump that regardless.
I know people who have been home schooled and are military, it must be the recruiter.
Thank you for raising a fine son. And thank him for me for his service.
We went through this with my oldest. It’s NOT the homeschooling, it’s that Homeschoolers tend to have GEDs, and GEDs are considered inferior to a piece of paper that says you went to school and barely graduated.
Point out the college work, and the issue goes away...
He should walk next door and join the Army.
If that is valid, all the person has to do is to take and pass the GED. The military accepts that. And this stellar student should be able to pass it with ease. He should also go down to the recruiting center and see about taking the ASVAB, which is the military equivalent of the SAT test...maybe not as challenging, but it is their basic academic assessment test.
Best wishes to your friend
I’d be surprised if your friend has a problem.Sounds like the recruiter can’t see the forest for the trees...certification by the State of PA + advanced degree could even mean OCS!
It’s not correct. All the DoD services and the Coast Guard recognize homeschool diplomas issued according to the individual requirements of each state.
There is no such thing. Homeschoolers are not only welcomed they are thrilled to have them. If the USAF Academy (and West Point and Annapolis) embrace them with open arms you can bet the enlisted ranks do as well. There are two in my unit alone, one went to pilot training and the other into Combat Camera...it is crap what he has been told.
I agree. Just have him start the conversation with "Hi! I have a BS/BA degree in [xxx] from [college] and I'm interested in joining [branch] doing [desired military occupation]"
Thank you!
I believe this to be a recruiter is and not a military one.
VISIT, do not call a different recruiter.
This may be the new Obama military doing everything it can to keep the best and brightest out of service to country. Remember the Obama plan is the destruction of America, including military morale.
Two of my sons got into the military with a homeschool diploma. One into the AF, as a linguist, and the other into the Navy, into Nuke school.
That recruiter is lazy. There are home schoolers in every military academy as well.
I went through the Air Force recruitment process, and ended up going to a second recruiter. As people have stated, it sounds like this particular recruiter isn’t putting in the effort for your friend. If that’s the case, your friend probably shouldn’t trust the recruiter with anything else. If they don’t even want to enlist him, they probably won’t put too much effort into squaring away possible benefits, either.
Furthermore, the Air Force has pretty long waiting lines for certain jobs. I waited over a half year to go to basic, and I have a friend taking the officer route who waited over a year for a board even though he had already graduated with his Bachelor’s Degree in Mechanical Engineering. I think that joining the Air Force is the best decision I ever made, but make sure your friend visits the other branches. He may get a recruiter that actually cares. He may get benefits that match his needs better. He may get a ship out date or job that he prefers. This is a life changing decision, so he should explore all options.
In this economy, potential recruits are lined around the block. Recruiters aren't going to waste time on a candidate with "issues". I'm not saying being home-schooled would be such an issue but the problem is that if the recruiter doesn't know the details or the process with enlisting a home-schooled recruit, they're more likely to err on the side of expediency, say "not interested" and quickly move on to the next guy standing in line.
I never got a bonus.
Thanks for your service, PO Anoreth. Semper Paratus
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Contact these people. Homeschool legal defense group. Every home school family should belong to this group, btw. It is your legal defense if the Left goes haywire on you. I give them membership money, but have no home school kids anymore. I remember a fight they had with the military in the past...probably when the Clintonistas were in power.
Just a recruiter not wanting to do his/her job. Here’s the language right out of Air Force recruiting instruction...
2.12.5.10. Home Study Diploma. A secondary school diploma or certificate typically awarded based on certification by a parent or guardian that an individual has completed his or her secondary education at home. (This includes correspondence schools.) This diploma is considered an alternate credential (Tier 2).
Full instruction can be viewed at http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFRSI36-2001.pdf
Thanks. Made GM3 not too long ago. Lots of fun
Home-schooling is not a barrier and a college degree trumps the HS requirement anyway.
Curious. . .enlisting when he has a college degree? With a college degree not only can he enlist he can do the officer route as well.
I think your friend got cold feet and was looking for a way to say he tried to enlist but “they” wouldn’t let him in.
I’ve seen that before. . .
I retract my last statement. I assumed that the more qualified recruits that we’re signed, the recruiter would have some sort. Of benefit.
Yes we had benefits. Not getting fired, not getting yelled at, not having prospect cards thrown in our face, not having our tabs thrown at us or ripped to shreds, not having to sleep in the station, not having to work 14 hours a day 7 days a week.
I’ll never forget the last statement from the CO who was in command at the NRD when I got there upon him being relieved. Being an E-2C Tracker pilot he said “I’d rather walk into a running prop than be assigned to recruiting duty again.”
I was very happy I made it through my 40 one month tours. My biggest benefit was the 18 months sea duty credit I got for surviving. :-)
A Hawkeye, not a Tracker. Geez I’m been out too long. :-)
I dont think he has cold feet. He has been studying for the ASVAB and has been talking to all the Vets in the yard. If he had cold feet,then he caught it over night. He was pestering the Coast Guard for a month.
but one never knows.
True.
One never knows. . .
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