Posted on 05/12/2012 10:09:45 AM PDT by JoanVarga
If that plain statement offends you, then you can take the measure of just how far your thinking has been influenced by the “Imagine” crowd. Specifically, the “imagine no possessions” set.
You have no right to my organs after I’m gone. Sorry. I have every right to be this way without being judged as selfish. Here I draw the line on the march of the boundary-challenged fascists: No. Hands off. Find some other way to save a life that doesn’t involve the inherent corruption of the medical profession when an unscrupulous and hardened surgeon is tempted with my shiny, perfectly functioning kidneys while I’m under the knife for an appendectomy.
Mine.
I’m fine with being an organ receiver from a willing donor. I’m fine with willingly offering surplus parts of my own while I’m still alive. But I am not a passive donor. It’s my living, thinking, breathing choice while I’m alive and my fervent wish to be respected after I’m gone. Mine.
There’s something that disturbs me about the push for everyone to be an organ donor. People that wish to make their flesh a commodity while they’re alive or dead have that choice. It’s when we give that power to another that I worry.
If you own it, be careful to whom you would offer it. Unknown future entities (i.e., gov’t doctors) do not inspire confidence.
I'm not alone in this, apparently. A friend noted in the comments to this post:
I began recommending to my kids and other youngsters that they take up smoking.
Each one has responded with varying degrees of unbelieving protest. The smartest expected that there must be something else I had to say, and so they asked why I would recommend that they put their health at risk?
“Yes, in a world where longevity risks are static, you would indeed increase your risk of dying early by being a smoker. On the other hand, should you ever be in need of life-saving medical care, and decisions about saving your life is being weighed, then it will be too late to recognize the value at auction for smoke free lungs and other organs. Cannibalism has a whole new meaning in this brave new world."
The United States Catholic Bishops’ Conference stated in 1977:
The transplantation of organs from living donors is morally permissible when the anticipated benefit to the recipient is proportionate to the harm done to the donor, provided that the loss of such organ(s) does not deprive the donor of life itself nor of the functional integrity of his body.
Postmortem examinations must not begin until death is morally certain. Vital organs, that is, organs necessary to sustain life, may not be removed until death has taken place. The determination of the time of death must be made in accordance with responsible and commonly accepted scientific criteria. In accordance with current medical practice, to prevent any conflict of interest, the dying patient’s doctor or doctors should ordinarily be distinct from the transplant team.
Powerful medical organizations that advocate organ donation do not always support the morally correct position. Take, for example, the flip-flop stance of the Council on Ethical and Judicial Affairs of the American Medical Association (E-J Council AMA). In 1988, the Council concluded that it is “ethically acceptable” to use organs from anencephalic [6] neonates only after they have died (AMA “Reports,” 1992, vol. 1, 40-52). In 1994 the same Council reversed its position by stating that it is ethically acceptable to transplant the organs of anencephalic infants even before they die.
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/medical_ethics/me0019.html
"Since you seem to think there is an “unscrupulous surgeon” just around to corner you are avoiding all contac with those in the healthcare profession. You never know when a Nurse Practioner might slip you a roofie and you’ll wind up w/o kidneys in a hotel bathtub.
I agree it’s your right not to be an organ donor and I really don’t care who is or who isn’t. What is insulting is the implication that those who take oaths to care for you are out organ stealing. You sound just like an Obamacare proponent."
I refuse to donate any organ, including my blood, for two reasons: I have psoriatic arthritis and Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome.
While dialysis may help the arthritis, no one knows if CFIDS is contagious or if it can be transferred in any way.
d will
Of course, I owe no one a reason for my choice and refuse to be pressured.
Erase the “d will”
*sheesh*
I do not.
I sound like a life proponent, and our Dear Leader is anything but. I don’t ascribe to surgeons or health professionals any more undue trust than I do a stock broker. Money corrupts every profession. It’s my wish to keep temptation to a minimum. Especially if the surgeon is getting paid by the government’s Obamacare. There’s enough evidence already that if there is extra money to be made, there are plenty in the health professions who will help themselves. I will not troll my nice jewelry down the night streets of my neighborhood, nor will I present myself as a living moral nuisance to the health industry. Not everyone in my nabe is corrupt, but I can’t know who is who. Best to be safe.
The point is, there is a concerted effort, a push to have people give up their right to their body.
But I’ll send your sneering regards to my brother’s healthy kidney, wherever it ended up. His doctors in Chicago robbed him of a perfectly healthy kidney by telling him it had a cancerous tumor. After surgery, they said, ooops! Nope. It was actually a healthy one that just had a blood bruise. So sorry and all that. No need for chemo, etc. Sure, mistakes happen. They’ll happen more in a thugocracy.
People take oaths all the time. And yet abortion continues. Little feet in jars and such.
Your President took an oath, too. . .
Our organ donation laws are based on keeping the financial proceeds from the multi-billion dollar organ harvesting business flowing into the proper accounts.
My fiancee woke up feeling not so good one day. He is 34 years old. He went to the ER. he had no open wounds but was down to only having 6 or 7 pints of blood in his body. He was in end-stage complete renal failure. His doctor had totally missed all the symptoms. He is on dialysis three times a week for 3 to 4 hours at a time, and he will be for the rest of his life, unless he gets another kidney. They typed all of his family with no luck, so his only hope is organ donation.
I have a cousin named Liana. She’s in her 20’s. She was diagnosed as being terminal without finding a bone marrow match. By the grace of God they found a match for her and she is good to go for her transplant on May 22.
We donated my father’s eyes, bone and skin when he passed. He had a massive heart attack, it basically exploded in his chest and his organs had been without oxygen for so long that we were unable to donate anything else.
I doubt that any doctor would “steal” organs to make money. You can get more money out of someone with a chronic condition than you can be curing someone of said condition.
My brother, and my mother, and pretty much every member of my family is an organ donor. I am and have a living will set up to specify it, and I’m in the process of getting typed and will be on the national bone marrow donation registry. I think refusing to be an organ donor is pretty much the height of selfishness. If you can look at a 7 yr old child on dialysis until he either gets a kidney or dies or 4 yr old child that needs a heart transplant and still say, “Nope, I’m keeping all my organs”, that’s between you and whatever God you claim to worship.
Well said. In this little piece of history, corruption reigns supreme.
Now go back and re-read my essay, especially where I say that I have nothing against willingly donating or receiving any organ. And read my other comments. You have completely missed the point. Understandable, given your frightful circumstances.
However, not even 7 year olds are entitled to my body, my organs or my property, or anything of mine against my will, living or otherwise.
Sorry, I don’t understand why it didn’t come up. The name of the movie is “Never Let Me Go”.
I’ve been around here a very long time, and this ranks at the very top of the most absurd and selfish things I’ve read on this site.
I can’t be bothered to figure out if you’re a troll or not, and frankly don’t care.
Shame on you.
That triggered the memory of an article I read by Dr. Paul Byrne who said the apnea test often hurts the patient's chances for recovery, causing irreversible brain damage, and begins the process of organ donation. If the patient doesn't breathe on his own the hospital will declare the patient "brain dead," turn the ventilator back on to keep the organs fresh, and begin the process of acquiring and extracting his organs. The patient is still, in fact, very much alive and the removal of vital organs is what actually causes death.
I’m sorry you’ve taken offense. None was offered.
As for your shaming, I reject it, and stand in fine company.
Please don’t let my personal boundaries trouble you further.
Not so “brain dead”
* Brain dead’ woman recovers after husband refuses to withdraw life support
* Woman Diagnosed as “Brain Dead” Walks and Talks after Awakening
* ‘Brain dead’ Quebec woman wakes up after family refuses organ donation
* Doctor Says about “Brain Dead” Man Saved from Organ Harvesting - “Brain Death is Never Really Death”
* Doctors Who Almost Dissected Living Patient Confess Ignorance about Actual Moment of Death
* New study questions “brain-death” criterion for organ donation
* Coma Recovery After 19 Years Poses Questions About Terri Schiavo
* Polish Man Wakes from 19-Year “Coma”, Talks and Expected to Walk Soon
* Man Wakes from Two-Year Coma – was Aware and Remembers Everything
* Boy in “Hopeless” Vegetative State Awakens and Steadily Improves
* Commentary: The Significance of that Case of the Man Trapped in a “Coma” for 23 Years
* Girl Once Comatose and Scheduled for Euthanasia Will Testify against Attacker
* ‘Comatose’ UK Man Chooses Life by Moving Eyes
* Woman’s Waking After Brain Death Raises Many Questions About Organ Donation
* Russian Surgeons Removing Organs Saying Patients Almost Dead Anyway
* Denver Coroner Rules “Homicide” in Organ-Donor Case
I’m unchecking the box on my drivers liscense next time i renew it, my family can approve the organ transplant after my body has ceased to live, i’m not leaving it up to a doctor with an agenda of greed.
“That “borderless” attitude has let in enough virulence from Mexico (MMM and Whooping Cough)”
Doctor friend told me that USC (which runs a public hospital here in Los Angeles) has quietly, with no fanfare, opened a HANSEN’S DISEASE clinic in an obscure basement.
Hansen’s Disease is the PC name for leprosy.
Because we have huge numbers of aliens from countries where it thrives. And they’ve brought it here.
Open borders and Multiculturalism: the gifts that keep on giving.
She Lion bump!
I always wanted to say, "I'd like to, but I'd better not. My family has all kinds of congenital health problems, you know..." Just to see them step back a little bit, like I might be contagious at that moment. LOL!
20 years ago, my vaccinated son, at age 9, got the German Measles while we were living in Mexico City. 365 days later, he got the mumps. 10 days after that, my husband (who had already had the mumps as a child) contracted them and almost died.
Booster shots, everybody. People are dying in Washington State (a big Mex population center) from Whooping Cough.
LOL good point....I’m using up all my organs, that is why they were given to me...
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