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Preparedness for Dark Times
SurvivalBlog.com ^ | 5/13/12 | John D.

Posted on 05/13/2012 3:20:10 PM PDT by Kartographer

I am a deputy sheriff in Louisiana and patrol primarily on the night shift. A few nights ago my shift was alerted that the main city in our parish was under a complete "black out", meaning a total loss of ALL electricity. The reason for the blackout was unknown but the repercussions were great. The power stayed out for a mere hour and a half, but that was all it took to cause chaos all throughout the city. In this hour and a half multiple shootings occurred, multiple wrecks occurred on the highways and city streets, and multiple stores and businesses were broken into and looted due to security systems malfunctioning. All within that small hour and a half. It really shows how fragile the order in our cities hangs in the balance. People who would probably have been watching television or engaging in other peaceful activities, were gathering in the streets starting fights. All because the lights and tv turned off. Wow. Only a handful of people had nothing to worry about because they were prepared with a few necessities such as: flashlights, food, water, protection (I.e. Rifle, handgun, or shotgun).

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Quark:"Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
1 posted on 05/13/2012 3:20:20 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 05/13/2012 3:21:30 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Hmm, "Dark Times",,,,,

Sounds racist to me, say Maxine Waters.

3 posted on 05/13/2012 3:29:17 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Kartographer

Let’s hope the idiots don’t show for this thread!


4 posted on 05/13/2012 3:30:19 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Kartographer
Around here, 30 minutes into a power outage, you can hear 5 or 6 gensets running. Those without power hang out with those with power until power gets restored.

Parties seem to form spontaneously, if there isn't a downpour and high winds.

Protocol is for those without gensets to provide adult beverages.

/johnny

5 posted on 05/13/2012 3:31:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Hawaii is like that. Has to be with the primitive power grid. Damn near anything will knock it out, and there is no backup.

Have not had to use my Honda yet, but nice knowing it is there. No idea who else here has one, or how long their cords are. Reminds me it is overtime to run the thing for a bit.

6 posted on 05/13/2012 3:36:22 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Kartographer

As I have said before, in the event of a major breakdown/catastrophe, you have maybe six hours before the shelves are stripped bare.

ANYONE who doesn’t have two weeks (at least) of provisions set aside will be in serious, serious trouble.

Three dozen eggs and two cases of baked beans? What’s that gonna cost you? Maybe thirty bucks, and it could SAVE YOUR LIFE!!


7 posted on 05/13/2012 3:38:47 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: doorgunner69

Must be Amish causing all the trouble....

Here in NJ last October lost power for 3 days because of
freak blizzard which topple trees onto power lines , some
people I know in CT lost it for a week

No rioting, looting, arson, etc....

Depends on the people involved - Obama’s vs Americans


8 posted on 05/13/2012 3:43:09 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: njslim

“Depends on the people involved - Obama’s vs Americans”

Here in Florida it doesn’t seem to matter. Either they are moral law abiding people or they aren’t.


9 posted on 05/13/2012 3:56:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

Maybe more blackouts are the solution. I know someone who said give them guns and drugs and they start shooting one another. Sad, but predictable.


10 posted on 05/13/2012 3:56:13 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Kartographer

I’m kind of surprized no night vision goggles or binocs on his list. They can be had for under $300. Something on my list to buy soon.

http://www.nightvisionetc.com/category.php?id_category=13


11 posted on 05/13/2012 3:57:22 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: JRandomFreeper

I hear that!!! Last week our neighborhood lost power for about 2 hours, right around dusk. Within 10 min most of out cul de sac was in my front yard (not sure if it was because we are in the center, or because my dear neighbors took pity on my 8 mo pregnant waddles and didn’t want to make me walk). We promptly had someone with a phone playing pandora radio and my phone was playing the local police scanner. Meanwhile... Every man managed to find their way through their dark homes to their dark refrigerators and returned with beer. No stubbed toes. The beer tracking ability in the male is very good. ;)
No looting, no shooting, just a bunch of kids playing in the yards after their usual bedtimes, and random spontaneous block party.


12 posted on 05/13/2012 3:59:23 PM PDT by Cailleach
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s a damn good protocol you have there.


13 posted on 05/13/2012 3:59:23 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Power outages in the gulch?

14 posted on 05/13/2012 4:01:44 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: Hugin
I’m kind of surprized no night vision goggles or binocs on his list. They can be had for under $300. Something on my list to buy soon.

The really cheap NVGs are Gen 1 and are made in Russia or China and some of them emit unsafe levels of radiation. Be careful about what you buy. Also, they require batteries, so in any EOTWAWKI scenario, they will only be useful until battery supplies are exhausted.

If anyone is serious about buying NVGs, get Gen 3 or 4. Expensive, but well worth it.

15 posted on 05/13/2012 4:04:09 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Hugin
I have night vision. I never use it. Given some time to adjust to darkness, I find it's easier to do without it.

/johnny

16 posted on 05/13/2012 4:04:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: djf
Speaking of eggs, one of the few useful things I got from that Doomsday Preppers show was that if you coat eggs with food grade mineral oil they will last at least 9 months with no refrigeration. I'm going to have to give that a try. Might be good to buy a couple 5 dozen packages, and rotate them out.
17 posted on 05/13/2012 4:04:45 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Cailleach
The beer tracking ability in the male is very good. ;)

You betcha!

/johnny

18 posted on 05/13/2012 4:05:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Very interesting, thank you. Exactly so.


19 posted on 05/13/2012 4:07:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: I see my hands
As I recall, John Galt worked as a short order cook in the socialist world when he wanted to. But he did it on his own terms.

/johnny

20 posted on 05/13/2012 4:08:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: AlaskaErik

Spending 3-4 grand isn’t in my budget. I figure something is better than nothing, but I would need to do some research before buying. My thought is when your low tech alarm system (dog, tin cans on a string, etc.) goes off you can check it out without giving yourself away.


21 posted on 05/13/2012 4:13:33 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: njslim

because of
freak blizzard which topple trees onto power lines

...just change the time frame to July or August and see what happens.


22 posted on 05/13/2012 4:19:47 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Gas & Petroleum Junkie)
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To: Lurker
That’s a damn good protocol you have there.

I think so. ;)

I believe it's important to practice what you are going to do with small problems so that if there is a big problem, everyone knows what is going to happen, and what their role is in the process.

And for some, that means bringing beer. I have them trained like pavlov's dogs.

/johnny

23 posted on 05/13/2012 4:22:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I bow in the general direction of your awesome skill set, sir. LOL


24 posted on 05/13/2012 4:25:18 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: Hugin

I read you can also use jojoba oil, and it’s not a petroleum based oil (egg shells are porous.)


25 posted on 05/13/2012 4:27:19 PM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: goodnesswins

There are several ways to preserve eggs. Do a google and you’ll find them. Some work for up to 2 years apparently.


26 posted on 05/13/2012 4:30:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hugin

I started out with a couple of ~300W “modified” sine wave inverters (110V)that can be hooked to a couple of old car batteries or to a car and provide minimal lighting and are able to run a computer. Then I got a sine wave inverter to be able to run either the refrigerator (summer) or furnace (Winter). Still hooks up to a bank of batteries charged by a (Diesel) car.


27 posted on 05/13/2012 4:30:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AlaskaErik

I have other things on my list that are more important than spending thousands of dollars on nvg. But, I guess it’s a matter of how much disposable $$ you have.


28 posted on 05/13/2012 4:32:07 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Gingrich or bust! (5/7/12, I guess it's bust.))
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To: Hugin

Or you can hard-boil them and they will last even longer.

I have about 3 #10 cans of powdered eggs, hey, it ain’t the Hilton, but you can come up with quite a few decent meals.

About ever two months I hit the bulk food joint around here - 5 dozen eggs for around five dollars.

Remember hearing about gold rush times when an egg would cost you ten dollars?
Might be worse this time!!


29 posted on 05/13/2012 4:32:15 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: djf

I’ve always wondered who the first guy was who said “I think I’ll eat the next thing that comes out of that chicken’s ass”.


30 posted on 05/13/2012 4:53:22 PM PDT by rickyc
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To: Lurker
It's all about priorities. I also make my own homebrew, in case the slackers don't show up with beers. ;)

/johnny

31 posted on 05/13/2012 4:56:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"Around here, 30 minutes into a power outage, you can hear 5 or 6 gensets running."

Really torn on this one. Having been through a few hurricanes in my time, there is nothing like hoping/wishing for some cool air and cold beers via generator-powered cooling sources. The underside is what you mention: everyone hears the generator and starts heading your way.

I think it was the Bosnia survivor that wrote of his experiences that if he had it to do over again that he would have rather had 1000 cigarette lighters than one generator when he went through his year and a half or so ordeal.

32 posted on 05/13/2012 4:59:53 PM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: djf
I have about 3 #10 cans of powdered eggs, hey, it ain’t the Hilton, but you can come up with quite a few decent meals.

You have powdered gold.

I have worked for fine dining establishments, and I use powdered egg for eggwash on my pastries. Ain't a damn thing wrong with powdered eggs.

I don't want them for scrambled eggs, but for everything else, they are just fine. They make great crepes.

/johnny

33 posted on 05/13/2012 5:00:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rickyc
I’ve always wondered who the first guy was who said “I think I’ll eat the next thing that comes out of that chicken’s ass”.

I don't know, but I'll bet I am related to him on my father's side.

/johnny

34 posted on 05/13/2012 5:03:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I don't want them for scrambled egg

And I was going to ask you about making scrambled eggs from my powdered eggs. I can seem to get and constancy. Some times they are good sometimes YUCK!
35 posted on 05/13/2012 5:11:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Sam's Army
When lots of folks have them, it's not a big deal, especially if they get used regularly.

Bosnia is very different from my neighborhood. Not as much vodka and blini here. More chorizo and Dos Equis.

But I'm good with vodka and blinis, too, if someone wants to bring some. I even know some Russian drinking songs.

/johnny

36 posted on 05/13/2012 5:11:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
My professional opinion, having cooked powdered eggs in the military, and as a fine dining chef... is fergitaboutit.

Better to impress with eggy crepes filled with wild blackberry (substitute your local fruit here) jelly.

/johnny

37 posted on 05/13/2012 5:14:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I just bought to cases of Augason farms emergency food kits, never seen them before and our local Walmart in Wasilla Alaska just started carrying them and the individual cans.

The dinner and brekkie kits are 6 #10 cans of various materials from ehhs to potatoes.

Buying the kit was much cheaper than buying the individual cans.

Here is their website,

http://www.augasonfarms.com/Products/Kits


38 posted on 05/13/2012 5:14:46 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Eye of Unk
Thanks. I've been using powdered eggs for baking and eggwashes for years. I don't consider it a survival food.

Same with dried hash-browns. I use them in normal course of business. Fresh taters take a long time to peel, have to be shredded, must be pressed free of liquid, and protected from turning brown.

Dehydrated hash browns need a few minutes of hot water, squeezed dry, and cook.

When you are making breakfast for 600 for the first sitting... dehydrated hash browns win on flavor and ease of prep.

/johnny

39 posted on 05/13/2012 5:19:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Any particular brand and where can I get them?


40 posted on 05/13/2012 5:29:13 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: JRandomFreeper

One of the very first prep foods I bought was #10 cans of powdered eggs. Great minds and all that...


41 posted on 05/13/2012 5:32:10 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

How about a spam and potato western omelet?


42 posted on 05/13/2012 5:34:36 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: metmom
I get that stuff from a commercial restaurant provider. Dehydrated hash browns can also be had at Sam's Club, I understand.

I have tried the Rainy Day brand, and they are ok, but seriously, dried whole eggs are dried whole eggs, and dehydrated taters are just dehydrated taters. I've never seen much variation in quality from one vendor to another.

/johnny

43 posted on 05/13/2012 5:37:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
Eggy Spam and potato pancake, yes. But any attempt to use dehydrated eggs as scrambled or omelet is going to be very disappointing.

I've tried. I really have. I can't make it work, and I know lots of tricks.

I have chickens and fresh eggs available anyway, if I want something that requires fresh eggs, like over easy with sausage, hashbrowns and toast.

/johnny

44 posted on 05/13/2012 5:42:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
How Horrific Will It Be For The Non-Prepper?
45 posted on 05/13/2012 5:44:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: Lurker

Learn something new every day. ;)


46 posted on 05/13/2012 5:45:42 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Shelf reliance sells a scrambled egg mix in addition to the powdered eggs. I haven’t tried them.

I have eaten the egg breakfasts from the mountain house meals. A little rubbery but not too bad.


47 posted on 05/13/2012 5:49:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Like the man said; “Hunger is the best sauce.”


48 posted on 05/13/2012 5:52:54 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer, but when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: driftdiver
If I have a choice between serving my audience rubbery scrambled eggs, and using the same egg powder to make eggy crepes with jalapeno and south Texas orange peel marmalade with wild mint as a garnish.... guess which one I'm going to go with?

And the walk to the pantry is the same either way, except to step outside for the mint.

/johnny

49 posted on 05/13/2012 5:53:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam
That thread has a troll.

/johnny

50 posted on 05/13/2012 5:54:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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