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SurvivalBlog.com ^ | 5/13/12 | John D.

Posted on 05/13/2012 3:20:10 PM PDT by Kartographer

I am a deputy sheriff in Louisiana and patrol primarily on the night shift. A few nights ago my shift was alerted that the main city in our parish was under a complete "black out", meaning a total loss of ALL electricity. The reason for the blackout was unknown but the repercussions were great. The power stayed out for a mere hour and a half, but that was all it took to cause chaos all throughout the city. In this hour and a half multiple shootings occurred, multiple wrecks occurred on the highways and city streets, and multiple stores and businesses were broken into and looted due to security systems malfunctioning. All within that small hour and a half. It really shows how fragile the order in our cities hangs in the balance. People who would probably have been watching television or engaging in other peaceful activities, were gathering in the streets starting fights. All because the lights and tv turned off. Wow. Only a handful of people had nothing to worry about because they were prepared with a few necessities such as: flashlights, food, water, protection (I.e. Rifle, handgun, or shotgun).

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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m not talking fine dining. I’m talking survival and filling the stomach with some easily stored protein.

Although I think I’d prefer your breakfast.


51 posted on 05/13/2012 5:57:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I insist on having both. That's survival. ;)

/johnny

52 posted on 05/13/2012 5:59:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver
And literally, I can make both out of the same pantry with just a little more effort and judicious foraging, come up with a more nutritious meal, raise morale, and kickstart the whole day.

I can be annoyingly upbeat in the mornings, but not until everyone is either disarmed or has had their coffee and cigarette.

/johnny

53 posted on 05/13/2012 6:03:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; blam

” That thread has a troll. “

That thread has a troll-studying-to-be-a-zombie...

Blam, was it wise to leave a trail of breadcrumbs for him to follow to this thread??

(Unlikely as it would seem from his posts, he just might figure it out and show up in this so-far-pristine thread..)

BTW, Johnny, the VA hospital I occasionally spend time in serves some kind of powdered eggs at least three mornings a week - we can tell that they’re not ‘real’, but not too bad, for hospital food...;))


54 posted on 05/13/2012 6:03:27 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer

I’d sure like to see a town identified here.


55 posted on 05/13/2012 6:06:34 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I am pretty convinced that Obama will attack even the emergency preparedness agenda making it illegal to hoard more than a months survival food, why that would be circumventing socialist herding!

Control the food, control the people.

My goal is no less than a 6 month supply of nutritional food for at least 6 people in my household, especially water, milk and energy juice drinks are on the list, and menus for food prep variation is important. I am a firm believer in cheese, you can add cheese to almost anything.

Another good stomach filler is those bowl of noodles, I just add some tuna and a wedge of Velveeta.


56 posted on 05/13/2012 6:10:24 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: doorgunner69

I have a recurring quarterly reminder on a Saturday in MS Outlook to exercise my genset. I start it up, hook up a space heater to give it a little load, run it for about 15-20 minutes to make sure it’s fully up to temperature, then close the fuel petcock to empty the carburetor and kill it.

I have an annual reminder to change the oil after one of these sessions.


57 posted on 05/13/2012 6:11:09 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Eye of Unk
Another good stomach filler is those bowl of noodles, I just add some tuna and a wedge of Velveeta.

I'm fairly sure I won't be eating to fill my stomach. Having a survivalist chef on staff has its benefits.

I can always work up a squirrel steamed dumpling soup with spring greens or something.

I did actually make that several times when I was broke and the larder was mostly bare.

/johnny

58 posted on 05/13/2012 6:15:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rickyc

LOL!

Prepper’s Wet-dream: Apocalypse, Week 2.

A (once scoffing) neighbor says, “Man, I’m so hungry, my stomach is rumbling ... I believe I could eat the ass-end out of a skunk!”

And s/he replies, “Not my skunk you won’t! We warned you—you should have been preserving your own varmint rectums, as we did. Too bad!”


59 posted on 05/13/2012 6:18:33 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I have a plan to connect a Delco diesel 105 amp alternator to my snowblower to double as a 12 volt charger for my survival trailer, its an old 21’ Prowler I bought for $500.

It houses my emergency foods, kerosene heater, propane lanterns, water, cooking tools and cold weather gear.

Now I do have a 12kw Onana diesel genset, it was found a bit dented along the Alaska Highway, I repaired it and it works flawlessly, it uses a bit less than one gallon per hour.

Here is a good website about gensets.

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=42287358738d91939fd66f595acaa711&f=6


60 posted on 05/13/2012 6:18:48 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Uncle Ike
"Blam, was it wise to leave a trail of breadcrumbs for him to follow to this thread?? "

(Ahem) Bait.

61 posted on 05/13/2012 6:22:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: FreedomPoster

Good plan. I have 2 generators, and usually give them the same routine sometime during the summer when I’m not prone to use them. Standard small engine stuff, check the oil, get it up to operating temps, put a small load on it, hit it with a touch of carb cleaner...

Same deal with my chain saws, whether I am using them or not.


62 posted on 05/13/2012 6:23:42 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kartographer
And I was going to ask you about making scrambled eggs from my powdered eggs. I can seem to get and constancy. Some times they are good sometimes YUCK!

Having had lots of powdered eggs in the service, my stock includes plenty of Louisiana Hot Sauce per can of powdered eggs.

63 posted on 05/13/2012 6:28:51 PM PDT by Starstruck
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To: FreedomPoster
Wish I was that organized. Don't drain the carb, hopefully running it and the Sta-bil in the gas will do to prevent gunk. What I will do next time I need gen gas is get it down by the harbor where they have ethanol free stuff. Supposed to be the hot tip for generator, storage, and small garden engines that do not get run so much.

A lot of folks thought I was nuts to retire in Hawaii with the cost of living, but I never need heat or cooling. Living without electricity is not so hard if the climate permits it. My gen can run the refridge and microwave same time until gas runs out, should be good enough.

64 posted on 05/13/2012 6:30:34 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Eye of Unk

Nice, and that is some pretty big stuff on that latter.

Here’s a nice site with info on and products for multi-fuel (think propane) conversion for smaller gensets.

http://www.propane-generators.com/


65 posted on 05/13/2012 6:32:56 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: blam

” (Ahem) Bait. “

With D-Con, you never have to deal with the tiny little bodies.... ;)


66 posted on 05/13/2012 6:34:03 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: doorgunner69

Yeah, I wish I had ethanol free anywhere near here. Good idea on that. I do double up on Sta-Bil when I fill my fuel cans.


67 posted on 05/13/2012 6:37:46 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

I just recemtly saw one of those compact inverter generators made by Yamaha, I want one. Charges both 12volt and does some decent 120vac, enough for a TV at the least.

But getting back to the issue of light in itself during dark times I think thats pretty important, LED is a great idea. I have quite a few chemical sticks for emergency, safe for the kids to carry around.

Would be interesting on how to make your own, especially a supersized one for a yard light.


68 posted on 05/13/2012 6:39:49 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Hugin

“”that if you coat eggs with food grade mineral oil they will last at least 9 months with no refrigeration””

I grew up on a farm and before we had a refrigerator, our eggs were kept in the cellar in a crock (not crock pot) in a white slimey substance. I have no idea what it was called or how it was made. I do remember going down to get eggs out of it. Is there anyone here old enough to remember the same thing?


69 posted on 05/13/2012 6:41:52 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Eye of Unk

The trouble with those chem sticks is they have a fairly short shelf life.


70 posted on 05/13/2012 6:44:45 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Thank You Rush

Probably a solution made with lime.


71 posted on 05/13/2012 6:46:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Eye of Unk
Most of the big name Japanese generators have similar features. Look critically at run time for a given amount of gas.

Some gens like my little Honda 1kW have a mode that throttles way back if the load is low to conserve. Lot less noisy too. Not that I would buy another one soon, but this one can be hooked in parallel with another for 2kW is you had to have that.

72 posted on 05/13/2012 6:50:59 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Eye of Unk

Provident Pantry and Mountain House taste good. Tried Wise buckets where the meal comes in pouches. No meat in meals, but soy substitutes. Not as good tasting. Their soups are good. How does Augason farms test like?


73 posted on 05/13/2012 6:51:25 PM PDT by Fee
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To: driftdiver

“”Probably a solution made with lime.””

I’m sure I would have recognized that as we also used lime on the farm - before we had a bathroom - so you can guess what that was for!! LOL

It was a jelly like substance and you had to dip your hands down into it to find the eggs.


74 posted on 05/13/2012 6:56:49 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

I’ve never done it myself but am thinking of trying. A web search will turn up many different ways.


75 posted on 05/13/2012 6:59:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Thank You Rush

It was probably water glass, or sodium silicate.


76 posted on 05/13/2012 7:02:39 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Fee

This is my very first purchase of the Augason brand, my lady friend has fed me the mashed potatoes and I think they tasted better than off the shelf instant spuds but it may be her cooking, she is an expert chef. It was her who talked me into “prepping” of this type of long storage food, she says its most important to scoop out of the can, don’t pour as that displaces the inert gas used when they seal the tins.

My idea of prepping was having a freezer full of Hungryman TV dinners, some microwave burritos and ice cream. But I have a strong sense of intuition and its telling me Obama is going on a vengeful food restriction agenda.


77 posted on 05/13/2012 7:06:04 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: doorgunner69
my little Honda 1kW

I've got one of those and really like it. I use 100 LL aviation fuel for my small engines that are going to be sitting for awhile. My pressure cleaner sat for over 2 years and started with just a few pulls.

78 posted on 05/13/2012 7:06:31 PM PDT by Errant
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To: driftdiver

You are right. I was looking it up as you posted. Thanks. So my memory is still good!!!! That’s good to know.

“”Waterglass is another name for sodium silicate, a chemical compound that has many uses. Waterglass has been used for egg preservation since the turn of the last century and is one of the most successful preservation methods available. When mixed with water, waterglass forms a gelatinous substance in which eggs are completely immersed and stored in a crock in a dark, cool location. Waterglass can preserve eggs for five months or more without refrigeration and can be reused for subsequent batches of eggs. Waterglass works like lard in sealing up the pores of the egg and preventing air and bacteria from entering. It is easy to store and can be made up into solution as needed.””


79 posted on 05/13/2012 7:07:08 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: driftdiver
The guy who wrote the book “Alone Against the Atlantic”, and who sailed solo in his ten foot boat (Yankee Girl) to England from Portsmouth, VA, used Vaseline.

BTW, Great book!


80 posted on 05/13/2012 7:14:01 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Thank You Rush
in a white slimey substance. I have no idea what it was

A solution sometimes called water glass. Sodium silicate. I'm not a fan of it. It changes the characteristics of the egg. But it does work. Easier to have chickens and electric lights during the winter to keep them laying.

That technique was primarily used when chickens were raised during spring through fall, and most slaughtered for winter, with a few left over to make a new flock the next year.

/johnny

81 posted on 05/13/2012 7:15:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Sam's Army

We have several generators but we’ve never used any of them for a power outage, believe it or not we just don’t think about it. Around here it goes out for a few minutes up to 3 or 4 hours but I guess we’re optimists and just keep thinking it will come back on soon.

I keep bottled water for those occasions and enough water in jugs in the house for a few flushes but we have never had it go out over about 6 hours.


82 posted on 05/13/2012 7:23:26 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Thank You Rush; JRandomFreeper; All

Speaking of lard... anyone have any idea how long an unopened factory sealed bucket of it is good for?


83 posted on 05/13/2012 7:28:01 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: JDoutrider
I've used 3 year old factory sealed lard without a problem with flavor or rancidity.

But with as many wild pigs as we have here in Texas, I'm not going to worry about storing manteca.

/johnny

84 posted on 05/13/2012 7:34:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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bttt


85 posted on 05/13/2012 7:38:22 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer

Anybody in the Houston area who wants to order long term storage food with me from www.waltonfeed.com?

I order a pallet about once a year now. You can get natural, non-GMO grains, beans, etc. as well as excellent Idaho honey. With a grain mill and a few buckets of grain you will have the calories to last through months of shortages.

Some of their grains and such are packaged to last many decades if you keep them indoors.

I have a forklift and place to ship them. We all save on shipping by buying in bulk.

Seems like a fine way to assemble a group of Freeper preppers.


86 posted on 05/13/2012 7:39:01 PM PDT by darth
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To: Hugin

Get eggs fresh and “uncleaned”. Store in a cool dry place and only clean off the feathers, chicken poop, etc as you need to use them.

They will keep for months.


87 posted on 05/13/2012 7:45:39 PM PDT by wbill
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To: doorgunner69

“but this one can be hooked in parallel with another for 2kW is you had to have that. “

Do not do that - if they get out of phase, you will fry everything.

My company actually tried to invent a device to allow that behavior - two multi-million-dollar labs went down in flames.

YMMV.


88 posted on 05/13/2012 7:46:47 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton
All the new equipment phase locks and are stackable.

/johnny

89 posted on 05/13/2012 7:48:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: djf

If there truly is a food shortage I will be out on the corner selling bread and beans. Hungry kids eat free, but their imprudent parents will have to sign an IOU.

I will take payment in trades such such as gasoline, ammo, metals, and labor.

If the water goes off, I will organize the well digging and water filtration/treatment.

If security is a problem, I will organize all of the armed citizens into a block militia.

Bugging out to the woods is not my style. I will stay and help while fighting if necessary.


90 posted on 05/13/2012 7:52:05 PM PDT by darth
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To: JRandomFreeper

Johnny, I love you, man, but BS.

Generators are still, to this day, isolated, “bolted” in phase (and I mean with hardware bolts), or phase-controlled by humans.

Or if you have a way around that, you might wish to sell it to the US...

For a few billion dollars.


91 posted on 05/13/2012 7:55:33 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: darth

Totally agree. I think community organization will be the most important thing.

Finding out and organizing peoples skills, if it means well digging, then people better be ready to pickup a shovel.

The main thing will be nobody gets a free ride. Nobody.

Just like that sign in a bar...

“Whiners will be shot!”


92 posted on 05/13/2012 7:59:20 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: patton
All new inverter equipment is phase locked. How do you think solar panels are feeding the grid?

/johnny

93 posted on 05/13/2012 8:12:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: piroque

When the hurricane/storm knocks out our power, we talk with neighbors. As time goes on we get closer. Happened after hurricane wilma.


94 posted on 05/13/2012 8:20:23 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: patton
Honda specifically markets their inverter 2KW genset to be stackable.

It's not your grandfather's genset.

Google it.

Your milage may vary. I am, after all, just a cook.

/johnny

95 posted on 05/13/2012 8:20:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: patton
Honda makes a special cable for the connection, which I would guess synchs the phase. It was designed to be able to do this, so I imagine it works.

They want a good chunk of change for that cable, as well as another 1$k for the 2nd generator. Cannot imagine needing 2kw, so no way for me. Merely interesting as the cost for higher capacity generators climbs fairly quick, and portability declines in pace.

96 posted on 05/13/2012 8:25:03 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: JRandomFreeper

Really low voltage running backwards through an inverter? Try it with 440’s running off two out-of-phase engines.

I am telling you, we tried it - and we blew the building up. Twice.

Sudden dissemambly of the entrire facility.

The safety precautions on the second genset were funny - concrete walls, a blow-out-roof, etc., etc.,...

Alas, it turned out to be necessary. The sucker is probably still in low-earth orbit.

I guess that you are thinking of the 12-volt capacitor pack that powers a laptop - like a Dell. Plug it in anywhere, it works.

Well, guess what. That technolnology is not scalable to useful sizes.

And, to be honest, I was the one pushing for it. THIS technology will save soooo many lives...

Only it could not be done.


97 posted on 05/13/2012 8:31:03 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: doorgunner69

Too small to be of use. Although, I am interested in their phase control algorithm...


98 posted on 05/13/2012 8:36:37 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: patton
Mash here.

You aren't listening. It's an inverter genset. 12VDC into an inverter that can sync with another.

/johnny

99 posted on 05/13/2012 8:37:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: patton
And check out the Outback brand of inverters that run up to 30kW. Grid synced.

/johnny

100 posted on 05/13/2012 8:42:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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