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OíReilly And Trayvon Attorney Dissect Legal Impact Of Zimmermanís Medical Records Showing Injuries
Mediaite ^ | May 16, 2012 | Meenal Vamburkar

Posted on 05/16/2012 6:12:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On his show Wednesday night, Bill O’Reilly returned to the Trayvon Martin case — in light of ABC News’ report that medical records support George Zimmerman‘s account of scalp injuries and a broken nose. O’Reilly emphasized — as he has in the past — that the case should not be tried on television. He brought in Martin family’s attorney, Benjamin Crump, to discuss.

Obviously, O’Reilly said, this new evidence points to a confrontation between Martin and Zimmerman. Furthermore, all the pundits who were quick to place guilt on Zimmerman, he said, are now being challenged by the medical report.

Crump agreed the case shouldn’t be tried on TV, but said the medical records should be “vetted properly.” He went on to question why Zimmerman, if he’d sustained serious injuries, would have declined medical attention following the incident. O’Reilly agreed that the prosecutor needs to cross-examine — going on to mention Martin’s autopsy, which said Martin’s knuckles were scraped. (NBC News’ report notes it was, “a small abrasion, no more than a quarter-inch in size — on his left ring finger below the knuckle.)

Without eyewitnesses, O’Reilly said, it’s very difficult to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, second-degree murder based on racial profiling. Crump urged the need to put “everything in the full context.” There “are different versions of his account,” Crump said. “They hopefully are going to come out.” He went on to say that if Zimmerman had “stood down,” there’d have been to need for him to “stand his ground” — referring to Florida’s Stand Your Ground law, which allows acting in self-defense if there’s a reasonable belief of threat.

The two agreed on one thing: we shouldn’t be jumping to any conclusions, especially not without taking a look at all the evidence in context.

Take a look at the segment, via Fox News:

(VIDEO AT LINK)


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Local News; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: angelacorey; bencrump; blackkk; coreyfong; florida; georgezimmerman; justicefortrayvon; justicefortrayvoninc; nifonged; tedbaxter; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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Tell me that that Benjamin Crump is really a comedian brought in to spoof a black civil rights lawyer. Please.
1 posted on 05/16/2012 6:13:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like a reasonable attempt to assess the situation.


2 posted on 05/16/2012 6:16:24 PM PDT by PapaNew (a)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Were there any injuries to the trayvon teenagers gold teeth.


3 posted on 05/16/2012 6:17:39 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Without eyewitnesses, O’Reilly said, it’s very difficult to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, second-degree murder based on racial profiling any conceivable motive.

There,fixed it up for Mr O'Reilly.

4 posted on 05/16/2012 6:22:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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BOR is Blaming the Victim, plain and simple.

If the Police don’t report to a call, no one would get hurt. If people didn’t watch their neighborhoods, there would never be any confrontation (yeah, okay).

BOR is an Idiot and he’s afraid to speak the Truth. He get this Medical Report stating Black Eyes, swelling, lacerations, a Broken Nose, and a head injury - along with Trayvon’s knuckles - and he says it looks like there could’ve been some kind of confrontation.

No, it’s clear one person was attacked and they defended themself.

Remember when Ted Baxter wasn’t going to cover this because it shouldn’t be tried on Televison? That was when Crump was going on MSNBC, CNN, and ABC. When they took the booking - suddenly O’Reilly says it’s too important not to cover. What a POS.

If there was a Video of the brutal attack, BOR and Crump would say well, we don’t know that Zimmerman didn’t say something to enrage Trayvon. They are refusing to see the Evidence clearly before them.

The New York Times buried in their story tonight that George Zimmerman passed a Lie Detection test administered by the Police. Oh, BOR couldn’t be bothered to read that far.

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5 posted on 05/16/2012 6:24:09 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano
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To: PapaNew
Sounds like a reasonable attempt to assess the situation.

Yep, if there's one thing that Crump is, it's reasonable.

6 posted on 05/16/2012 6:24:32 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obviously, O’Reilly said, this new evidence points to a confrontation between Martin and Zimmerman.

Sharp as a cue ball.

8 posted on 05/16/2012 6:27:45 PM PDT by Maceman
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Obviously, O’Reilly said, this new evidence points to a confrontation between Martin and Zimmerman.

"Welcome to the party, pal."

9 posted on 05/16/2012 6:30:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tzar
He doesn’t need to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt when it becomes lawsuit time.

Actually, he just needed George's arrest to file a tort. The tort standard of proof is a preponderance of evidence, a lower standard than reasonable doubt.

11 posted on 05/16/2012 6:33:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Tzar

If Mr. O’Mara uses “Stand Your Ground” successfully a lawsuit is not possible. Read it and see.


12 posted on 05/16/2012 6:33:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
O’Reilly still does not get it. He is blind and bias. Trayvon was the aggressor and getting killed was his reward for attempting to kill.
13 posted on 05/16/2012 6:34:54 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Navy Patriot

Yep, if there’s one thing that Crump is, it’s reasonable. He’s reasonably sure his client is black, and the defendant
is white. So he is guilty as charged, let the sentencing begin. Lawsuits to follow! That is reasonable in his mind, not mine!


14 posted on 05/16/2012 6:34:54 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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“Crump is the family lawyer, not a prosecutor. He doesn’t need to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt when it becomes lawsuit time.”

He doesn’t even need to prove that: In a civil case the standard of proof is by a “Preponderence of the evidence,” not the “Beyond a reasonable doubt” required in a criminal case.


15 posted on 05/16/2012 6:36:04 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

One of my joys in life is not tagging sarcasm, especially with newbies.


17 posted on 05/16/2012 6:37:55 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somehow there is some huge piece of evidence missing that disputes everything else that’s come up. Until that evidence is revealed, we must not jump to conclusions. \sarc


18 posted on 05/16/2012 6:39:20 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Tzar

We won’t know that until the trial, which I predict won’t even happen this year.


19 posted on 05/16/2012 6:41:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Tzar
I agree with what you said, but if Zimmerman walks, America burns, it's just that simple. The setup is already complete. Everybody enjoyed "rodney King" until all the deaths and destruction. Then even King said, " Ca....,Ca...., Can't we all just get along?"

IMHO, no,....... we can't. It's not allowed.

20 posted on 05/16/2012 6:43:05 PM PDT by chuckles
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