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Consequences of Collapse: Access to Critical Medicines Is Disappearing in Greece
Family Preppers ^ | 5/18/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 05/18/2012 10:18:58 AM PDT by Kartographer

For patients and pharmacists in financially stricken Greece, even finding aspirin has turned into a headache.

Mina Mavrou, who runs a pharmacy in a middle-class Athens suburb, spends hours each day pleading with drugmakers, wholesalers and colleagues to hunt down medicines for clients. Life-saving drugs such as Sanofi (SAN)’s blood-thinner Clexane and GlaxoSmithKline Plc (GSK)’s asthma inhaler Flixotide often appear as lines of crimson data on pharmacists’ computer screens, meaning the products aren’t in stock or that pharmacists can’t order as many units as they need.

“When we see red, we want to cry,” Mavrou said. “The situation is worsening day by day.”

The 12,000 pharmacies that dot almost every street corner in Greek cities are the damaged capillaries of a complex system for getting treatment to patients. The Panhellenic Association of Pharmacists reports shortages of almost half the country’s 500 most-used medicines.

“It would be unrealistic to deny that there are many difficulties regarding all public services due to the financial crisis,” Nicolaos Polyzos, secretary general of the Ministry of Health, wrote in a response to McKee’s article posted on the ministry’s website.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: emergencyprep; europeanunion; germany; greece; preparedness; preppers; thecomingdarkness; unitedkingdom
A heads-up of what is coming. I don't think (and I pray) it won't get this bad here, but I expect spot shortages and you can expect the number of available outlets to drop in a several economic down turn.
1 posted on 05/18/2012 10:19:08 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 05/18/2012 10:20:24 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Who knows how it will get here with Obamacare.?

Those who voted for it don’t.

They will get theirs. They don’t have Obamacare.


3 posted on 05/18/2012 10:34:10 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kartographer

Time to head out to the aquarium supply store. (quasi-obscure prepper reference)


4 posted on 05/18/2012 10:37:07 AM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: Kartographer
The 12,000 pharmacies that dot almost every street corner in Greek cities

One cog might be that there are too many pharmacies for suppies in Greece if they're truly on every corner.

That said, we know there have been shortages here for a couple years. A couple weeks ago I was at Walmart to pick up some basics and saw many empty shelves. Had to ask the pharmacist where some simple everyday OTC things were only to find out they had them behind the counter. She claimed she hadn't had time to put them out --- uh, no, stockers do that, not the pharmacist. I noticed they only had a handful of each item still in their packing boxes so that didn't make any sense - like they were intentionally holding them back and selling only when someone asked about them.

5 posted on 05/18/2012 10:50:24 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Venturer

6 posted on 05/18/2012 10:53:57 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

“I don’t think (and I pray) it won’t get this bad here...”

The possible lack of access to expensive life-saving prescriptions is what worries me the most. They are very expensive and the insurance company won’t pay for more than a one month supply for some of them, so I can’t “prep” for some lengthy unforeseen event.


7 posted on 05/18/2012 10:56:18 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Kartographer

Shoot, what’s the problem? Even Cuba and N. Korea have medical care, don’t they?

So just die a little, Greeks!


8 posted on 05/18/2012 11:00:27 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kartographer
The reality: Greece's public health system is not paying market price, demanding brand name rather than generic (while not paying market price), and is very behind on paying their bills.

It's not that pharmacists can't get drugs, it's that drug companies want to be paid before shipping more drugs, and pharmacists are not getting paid in a timely manner by the Greek government.

9 posted on 05/18/2012 11:07:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: bgill
Had to ask the pharmacist where some simple everyday OTC things were only to find out they had them behind the counter. She claimed she hadn't had time to put them out --- uh, no, stockers do that, not the pharmacist.

I'm guessing shoplifting issues rather than supply issues.

10 posted on 05/18/2012 11:09:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Kartographer

Just declare access to medicine to be a “human right”, expropriate the formulas and begin cranking them out in state factories.

Problem solved.


11 posted on 05/18/2012 11:10:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kartographer
You know, I think I have the solution to the Greek Crisis. They should adopt work as the new currency. This work stuff could then be exchanged for essentials like food and medicine. I'm not joking. They should monetize hourly labor in denominations of effort.
12 posted on 05/18/2012 11:12:08 AM PDT by Brass Lamp
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To: Kartographer
Just heard and interview with the authors, looks good:

13 posted on 05/18/2012 11:16:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: 109ACS

Go to www.survivinghealthy.com and you can order antibiotics from a licensed US doctor. Perfectly legal. You can also stockpile other meds you may take.


14 posted on 05/18/2012 11:59:15 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Go to www.survivinghealthy.com and you can order antibiotics from a licensed US doctor. Perfectly legal. You can also stockpile other meds you may take.

Very helpful info, thank you.

15 posted on 05/18/2012 12:04:00 PM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: PapaBear3625
They can get to any location in the EU and pay cash for it no problem. What they cant do is get it for “Free” with their Greece Obomacare gift card. Go figure, the product manufacturer wants to get paid. How dare them want payment from Greece. No one gets paid from Greece we are supposed to pay them.

Socialism kills! Dumb asses.

16 posted on 05/18/2012 12:29:00 PM PDT by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is too lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: MrB

doomandbloom.net has a series of articles on antibiotics and their use in collapse medicine. It tells you which ones you need, dosages and diseases they are used for.


17 posted on 05/18/2012 12:59:42 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Kartographer

Already Happening! You’ll be surprised at how long the FDA list is currently.
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/DrugShortages/ucm050792.htm
Stock up what you can.


18 posted on 05/18/2012 1:45:30 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

Then there are outright bans, such as good CFC propellant in inhalers, leaving asthma and COPD patients with more costly and less effective inhalers.


19 posted on 05/18/2012 3:47:00 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Kartographer
They even get aspirin from the government. When the government sneezes, they die. That is what happens when you put all your eggs in Stalin's basket.
20 posted on 05/18/2012 6:29:11 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: tbw2

I don’t even want to get started on a rant about that. I’m one of those who are stuck using less effective meds because of the EPA.


21 posted on 05/18/2012 9:22:51 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: Kartographer

My thyroid quit. Having no medicine would be a death sentence for me.

We found a source online to buy my meds, I’ve got over a years supply in the storage.


22 posted on 05/19/2012 1:57:54 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Go to www.survivinghealthy.com and you can order antibiotics from a licensed US doctor. Perfectly legal. You can also stockpile other meds you may take.

Not sure this is still true. They have a statement there that says,

"Thank you for your prayers! Continue to watch our site for updates, but for now your only option for preparing for disaster is to visit us in person in Branson, MO. Watch for info on how coming soon. Dr. Bob Olson"

23 posted on 05/19/2012 2:14:56 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Sarajevo

My son has bad asthma, too. And we have to replace them when he loses inhalers on playdates or anywhere else. The $7 inhalers are now $40-50.


24 posted on 05/19/2012 7:11:13 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: FrogMom

I did not know that. I have not been to the site lately. He must have gotten some heat from the Feds. It would likely interrupt their plans to kill about half of us.


25 posted on 05/19/2012 7:15:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MrB

Just ordered. THANKS!


26 posted on 05/19/2012 8:44:17 AM PDT by Humidston (For the first time in my adult life I FEAR my government.)
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To: tbw2

I’m surprised that you can still find them. I looked locally this past January, but all the stores that used to carry them stopped this past December.


27 posted on 05/19/2012 12:41:51 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: TexasRepublic

What better way to “naturally” rid the nation of the conservatives over 60? Have a med shortage.


28 posted on 05/19/2012 1:19:03 PM PDT by huldah1776
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