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Weekly Preppers' Thread
5/18/12 | Kartographer

Posted on 05/18/2012 10:27:58 AM PDT by Kartographer

Weekly Preppers' Thread to post progress, good buys, DIY projects, advice and ideas


TOPICS: Food; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
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I will start out with Honeyville has a 15% off sale going on now. Shipping is $4.99 for your whole order.

http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/

1 posted on 05/18/2012 10:28:00 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 05/18/2012 10:29:33 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

http://waltonfeed.com/

Good superpail (SP) prices especially on wheat.


3 posted on 05/18/2012 10:39:59 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Kartographer

Recreational Reading - Online post-apocalypse fiction.

“The Union Creek Journal - A Chronicle of Survival”

Pretty good read

http://unioncreekjournal.wordpress.com/the-union-creek-jounral-entries-in-chronological-order/

Short excerpt from first chapter:

November 2, 2014: The New Normal

I’m looking out the window and the first snow of the season is falling. The flakes are nearly as large as the tip of my thumb; they’re slushy and coming down hard and fast. It’s early November and the snow bespeaks the promise of a long, hard winter. The Farmer’s Almanac on my kitchen table suggests as much – a winter colder and wetter than average.

The one thing the Farmer’s Almanac didn’t predict is probably the single-most important thing in our lives these days – the fact that this will be the first winter in modern history where hundreds of thousands or millions of people could literally freeze to death in their homes. I know that may sound strange. Given all of the modern conveniences of the twenty-first century, how in the world could the majority of citizens of the northern United States be at risk of freezing to death?

Technically, I suppose it’s not just the citizens of the United States that are at risk. I’m pretty sure that nearly anyone who lives anywhere in the world where the temperatures drop to freezing or below is at risk as well. I have to assume, though, as we really don’t have much contact with the world outside of North America. For that matter, we really don’t have much contact with people, period. Air travel, automotive travel – travel over any significant distance at all – is pretty much out of the question. Electronic communication is all but gone too, with the exception of a few short-wave radios and Ham operators. We’re living in a virtual stone age. The skeletons of modern conveniences are a constant reminder of what used to be. The harsh reality is that the world has devolved to a point on par with the early nineteenth century in many ways.

http://unioncreekjournal.wordpress.com/the-union-creek-jounral-entries-in-chronological-order/


4 posted on 05/18/2012 10:41:09 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Kartographer

just purchased chimney fire starter from home depot. eliminates need for lighter fluid.
learned how to pollinate tomatoes. shake the branches with flowers.
learned how to make laundry detergent. fels naptha soap , borax, washing soda. all at walmart.


5 posted on 05/18/2012 10:51:15 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Kartographer
The 5 First Symptoms of SHTF
6 posted on 05/18/2012 10:51:22 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer

Best source(s) for “heritage” non-hybrid seeds?

Looking for the voices of experience.


7 posted on 05/18/2012 11:05:03 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Kartographer

Over here on the ‘Get prepared for Argentina 2014’ track: I added 50L of water storage and 1/2 a Kg of silver this month. Plus about 100 bucks worth of tinned goods.

And ... that’s it. I’ll see if I can do better.


8 posted on 05/18/2012 11:16:46 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Kartographer

I need some more kamut and rolled oats...

Doesn’t look like they have the kamut.


9 posted on 05/18/2012 11:19:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Iron Munro

For later.


10 posted on 05/18/2012 11:22:06 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer

Cabela’s: Herters brand .223 ammo. 62 gr HP, steel case. 4.69 for a box of 20.

Went “bang” every time I dropped the hammer in a Rock River M-4gery.


11 posted on 05/18/2012 11:24:00 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer
SOUP BASE

Rice and beans are good to eat anytime and are probably the #1 basic food for long term storage. But both definately benefit from a piece of ham or pork thrown in the cooking pot.

But in a remote camp or a SHTF scenario we won't be able to take a leftover hambone out of the freezer or run to the food market for some ham hocks. And plain rice and beans will get pretty boring after the first fifty pound bag or two.

That's where an item called "Soup Base" will come in handy.
Throw about a tablespoon of soup base in with a pound of rice and beans and it flavors them nicely.

Dry "Soup Base" is used by professional cooks and places where larger quantities of food are prepared. It is similar to boullion powder and comes in various flavors like pork, beef, bacon, chicken, Turkey shrimp, vegetable etc. Not only can it be used as a base for soup or to flavor rice and beans, it also makes a good dry rub for meats.

Look for it in your local wholesale or commercial food warehouse.

Minors and Knorr are the brands I most commonly see but there are other brands as well as no-name generic. It usually comes in one or two pound cans and will keep almost indefinately, even after it is opened. It usually costs around $8 to $10 a pound in the local stores, a little more on the net. But since it is concentrated it doesn't take much to flavor a pot of beans and/or rice.

For more info: http://www.soupbase.com/Soup-Bases/departments/1/

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12 posted on 05/18/2012 11:28:02 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Donnafrflorida

oh and if u want a bunch of recipes for standard shtf prep supplies like flour salt etc. www.grandpappy.com
wealth of info on cooking and gardening for preppers.


13 posted on 05/18/2012 11:28:07 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Blueflag

we bought fr patriot supply


14 posted on 05/18/2012 11:30:30 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Iron Munro
These help:



15 posted on 05/18/2012 11:34:26 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Blueflag

I have had good luck with the Heirloom Seed Company in Pennsylvania www.heirloomseeds.com and they have a large selection for veggies and flowers.


16 posted on 05/18/2012 11:36:05 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Blueflag
Best source(s) for “heritage” non-hybrid seeds?

For larger quantities and a huge selection of varieties I buy here:

Hazards Greenhouse

For common varieties at economical prices check out your local Wal-Mart.

Click this link for more information:

Bargain Heirloom Vegetable Seeds Now Available at Some Walmarts for 20-Cents per Packet of Seeds


17 posted on 05/18/2012 11:43:18 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Iron Munro

Question about the heirloom seeds —how long would those packets last? Is there a special way to make them last longer? Freezing, storing in cool, dark place? suggestions?

Pat


18 posted on 05/18/2012 11:47:23 AM PDT by duckbutt (Those who pay no taxes have no check on their appetite for services.)
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To: Kartographer

We decided to open up a can of freeze dried peach chunks from Emergency Essentials. They make a delicious snack. They also rehydrate beautifully. We are going to order another case.


19 posted on 05/18/2012 11:54:23 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: duckbutt
Question about the heirloom seeds

This should help with some of your concerns:

Home Gardening Tips

How to Survive Hard Times (Index of Articles)

During Hard Times Should You Know Some Basic Gardening Skills?

Vegetable Recommendations for New Gardeners

How to Harvest, Process, and Store Vegetable Seeds

How to Grow Each Type of Vegetable Seed

Heirloom Vegetable Seeds Available on the Internet

How to Grow Fruits, Nuts, Grapes, and Berries

How to Grow Fruit Trees From Seed

How to Convert Human Waste into a Safe Garden Compost Fertilizer

The Benefits of Mulch


20 posted on 05/18/2012 12:09:16 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Iron Munro

Great stories! Thanks!


21 posted on 05/18/2012 12:32:22 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Are you sure that this is the right link?

http://www.grandpappy.com/

I got a Grandpappy Point Resort & Marina... no SHTF/prepping there that I can find.


22 posted on 05/18/2012 1:02:51 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Or is this it?

http://www.grandpappy.info/index.htm


23 posted on 05/18/2012 1:12:33 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: carriage_hill

try wo info part


24 posted on 05/18/2012 1:39:24 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: carriage_hill

try wo info part


25 posted on 05/18/2012 1:39:51 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: carriage_hill

http://www.grandpappy.info/indexrec.htm


26 posted on 05/18/2012 1:46:05 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: carriage_hill

http://www.grandpappy.info/indexrec.htm


27 posted on 05/18/2012 1:46:40 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: carriage_hill

http://www.grandpappy.info/indexrec.htm


28 posted on 05/18/2012 1:48:18 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Got it now; thanks!


29 posted on 05/18/2012 1:57:12 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: Iron Munro

” For common varieties at economical prices check out your local Wal-Mart. “

Our screwed-up Walmart has already taken down its seed displays - guess they’ve never heard of “Fall Crops”, even though we live in a 2-growing-season area...

(BTW - is it just this area, or are turnip seeds in short supply all over?? I’ve been to every store that I know of that sells garden supplies, or even seeds, all over Southern NM, and nobody has them... Does anybody know if this is a local hiccup, or is it a national phenomenon???)


30 posted on 05/18/2012 2:22:34 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer

I find that those canned hams don’t carry exp dates...I still have some....they are very salty and I think one would want the whole can to be used for a very large supper for several people....


31 posted on 05/18/2012 2:27:09 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Kartographer

ping


32 posted on 05/18/2012 2:32:35 PM PDT by steerpike100
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To: Kartographer

Would you please add me to your ping list? This topic interests me very much, and I am beginning to realize the importance of being informed about things like this. Thanks!


33 posted on 05/18/2012 2:35:09 PM PDT by MasonGal
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To: cherry

” I think one would want the whole can to be used for a very large supper for several people.... “

Dollar General quite often has the smaller (1#? 1.5#?) Danish canned hams (sufficient for dinner-for-two, or for cutting up for soups or beans..) I think they’re in the $2-#3 range... ;)


34 posted on 05/18/2012 2:35:41 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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walmart best price for dak ham. cvs is EXPENSIVE!


35 posted on 05/18/2012 3:29:00 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: cherry

my dak says good til 2015


36 posted on 05/18/2012 3:41:05 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Uncle Ike
BTW - is it just this area, or are turnip seeds in short supply all over??

I'll take a look around my area tomorrow and give you some feedback.

Hazards Seeds shows 16 varieties of turnip seeds in stock.

Hazards Turnip Seeds - Click Here


37 posted on 05/18/2012 3:43:09 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Donnafrflorida

p.s you can make sugar from beets.
i am buying my honey from sams. 12.00 for 3 pounds


38 posted on 05/18/2012 3:43:10 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Kartographer

What is a good place to find Dak hams? The Walmarts around us have either stopped stocking it or just keep running out.


39 posted on 05/18/2012 3:48:41 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Drango
That price waltonfeed.com on wheat is a rip-off , as wheat on the chicago market fgtcoop.com/ is going for $6.95a bu. today , a lot of farmers will sell you a couple buckets for less (cash) ,

@W - WHEAT - CBOT

Month Open High Low Last Change Time More

Jul 12 656'6 697'4 652'4 695'2s 37'4 03:04P

Sep 12 668'0 707'4 664'2 703'0s 33'4 03:08P

Dec 12 687'0 725'2 683'4 720'0s 31'2 03:19P

40 posted on 05/18/2012 4:16:09 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: tbw2

CVS runs them on sale about ever 8 Months or so 2 for $5.00. Big Lots carry Celebrity for around $3.00 and they taste about the same to me.


41 posted on 05/18/2012 5:50:47 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: piroque

I have no idea about the cost of wheat or grains. What I do know is that putting the wheat into a superpail with the process of a oxygen absorber, vacuum seal and the mylar bag etc and achieving a 30 year self life, is something I rather have done by others. So the cost to me isn’t what I can buy a bushel of wheat for, it’s the cost of what vendors sell the superpail for.

So as I look at other superpail vendors, calculate shipping....Walton Foods comes out the best. Anyone see a better site? I’m price shopping!


42 posted on 05/18/2012 6:00:09 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
What your doing is giving 80 something dollars for a 7 dollar a bushel product , the bucket you can buy for about 8 dollars the mylar bags , just off hand I think I saw them at 12 or 13 dollars a dozen. You can cheap hand warmers and use as the oxygen absorbers.

just trying to help you out ,everything on the net is not always the best buy.

43 posted on 05/18/2012 6:17:55 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: tbw2; Donnafrflorida
CVS runs the Dak on sale about ever 8 Months weeks or so 2 for $5.00 and Walgreens does the same for Celebrity. Big Lots carry Celebrity for around $3.00 and they taste about the same to me.

I also believe Dollar General and Dollar Family carry them, but not sure of the price.
44 posted on 05/18/2012 6:23:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: tbw2

Walmart.com or amazon.com
I was surprised how many plants you can buy on line at amazon. I ordered Sweet 100 tomato plants. They came fast and looked good, planted they are great.
Have ordered through Walmart.com and items come fast also. Or you can have items sent to your local Walmart for pickup without paying shipping.


45 posted on 05/18/2012 7:50:36 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: Kartographer

Here’s good prepper reading, if you haven’t got your copy yet:

Starving the Monkeys: Fight Back Smarter
by Tom Baugh

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0982543107/ref=sc_pgp__m_A9222F4SBTLQ6_2?ie=UTF8&m=A9222F4SBTLQ6&n=&s=&v=glance


46 posted on 05/18/2012 8:15:00 PM PDT by EasySt (Life is precious. Live it well.)
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To: Kartographer

Thank you.


47 posted on 05/18/2012 8:53:35 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Uncle Ike
BTW - is it just this area, or are turnip seeds in short supply all over??

I checked our local Walmart.
They still have their seed displays out but they are picked over and there are no turnip seeds. I can't tell if there were any to begin with or not and no one there could tell me.


48 posted on 05/19/2012 5:08:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Iron Munro

Thanks for checking, FRiend... ;)

It appears that, even if the turnip seeds ain’t available in the retail stores, there’s plenty online.. It’s too late, now, for Spring planting, but should be able to order them and get ‘em in time for August plant to harvest in November....


49 posted on 05/19/2012 5:43:31 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike

Here is something interesting:

Free Seed Swap at:

Heirloom Seed Swap - The FREE Seed Exchange for Seed Savers

http://www.heirloomseedswap.com/


50 posted on 05/19/2012 5:59:22 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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