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Dershowitz: No Jury Would Convict Zimmerman Of Murder Unless Afraid ‘Black Panthers Might Kill Them’
Mediaite ^ | May 18, 2012 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 05/18/2012 1:49:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On Friday, legal scholar and criminal defense attorney Alan Dershowitz joined journalist and author Bernie Goldberg on Fox News Channel’s America Live with Megyn Kelly to discuss the ongoing trial of George Zimmerman for the murder of Florida teen Trayvon Martin. Dershowitz and Goldberg said that the New York Times and Florida prosecutor Angela Cory had irresponsibly furthered a narrative of Zimmerman’s guilt when it appears that he acted in a manner consistent with self-defense.

Dershowitz, who had previously been highly critical of the decision to indict Zimmerman for second degree murder, doubled down on his criticism and included some media organizations for hyping the case.

Dershowitz said that Cory, who handed down the Zimmerman indictment without the input of a grand jury, “raised expectations by politically indicting Zimmerman for second degree murder when there was never any basis.”

He went on to say that the media has largely changed their tune on the facts of the case, with the notable exception of the New York Times.

The New York Times still reports as if the evidence is overwhelming that Zimmerman is guilty. Indeed, they end a story in today’s newspaper shockingly by quoting an unnamed source that made a phone call to police alleging that Zimmerman may have some racist tendencies. That violates the Times own policy about sourcing. They would never have written such a statement about an un-sourced allegation by an unnamed person regarding Trayvon Martin. The Times has a position on this case, and it allows that position to influence its reporting.

Kelly asked Goldberg why the media was so invested in Zimmerman’s guilt. Goldberg said that the storyline fit neatly into a “liberal media” narrative of persistent white racism against African Americans. He said that a number of individuals employed irresponsible hyperbole when discussing the details of this case before it went to trial.

There was the black Congresswoman from Florida who said Trayvon was ‘hunted down like a rabid dog.’ There was the white Congresswoman from Illinois who said his death was a ‘modern day lynching.’ There was the black Congressman from Georgia who said he was ‘executed’ – executed – because he was ‘walking while black’ in a gated community. Then there was the New York Times that gave valuable op-ed space to an author who said Trayvon Martin was ‘shot dead in cold blood.’

Goldberg said that the Times had also employed the description of Zimmerman as a “white Hispanic” to further the narrative that the alleged killer of Trayvon Martin was a white person. He said that if it was simply a Hispanic, the Times would have thought “that wouldn’t be interesting.”

Dershowitz took exception to Goldberg’s characterization of the problem of reporting around the Martin killing as being a liberal vs. conservative issue.

“I’m a liberal,” said Dershowitz. “I know that the evidence seems to corroborate much of Zimmerman’s story.”

Dershowitz concluded by levying harsh criticism of Florida’s law enforcement and agreed with Goldberg that this indictment was handed down in part because of the irrational media coverage of this incident. Dershowitz went further and said that Cory helped to create the hysteria.

She was appointed to stop race riots. That was her job. And as she put it, to do justice to Trayvon Martin. Not to do justice to George Zimmerman, not to do justice period. Just to do justice to the alleged victim in this case. She has a terrible reputation in Florida for always over-charging, and she was picked specifically for that… No jury – except one frightened that the New Black Panthers might kill them if they vote for an acquittal or that they might cause race riots – no fair jury would find anyone guiltily here of second degree murder.

Watch the segment below via Fox News Channel:

(VIDEO AT LINK)


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: blackkk; blackpanthers; cwiiping; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
So what's the real difference between us nowadays and Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany or North Korea?
1 posted on 05/18/2012 1:49:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So what's the real difference between us nowadays and Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany or North Korea?

Really? Into hyperbole today? You only trivialize the evil of those regimes.

2 posted on 05/18/2012 1:54:06 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So what's the real difference between us nowadays and Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany or North Korea?

I'm thinking, I'm thinking....

Piles of dead bodies!

Nope, they have those out back of abortion clinics.

I give up. What?

3 posted on 05/18/2012 1:54:06 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I was forced onto this “jury”, I’d definitely be packing “heat”.


4 posted on 05/18/2012 1:54:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; onyx

WILL OBAMA USE KENYA 2006 OPLAN TO WAG THE ELECTION

5 posted on 05/18/2012 1:57:39 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


6 posted on 05/18/2012 2:01:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the regimes you mention, the government controlled the mob.

In this case, you have government officials making decisions because of fear of the mob.

I’ll expand Dershowitz’s case a little- you might vote to convict if you were afraid of being the cause for a burn-half-a-city riot.


7 posted on 05/18/2012 2:01:38 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let's find a few thousand deserted acres out west somewhere, line up the NBP and all their allies on one side,
those Americans who loathe them and their ilk on the other side, and just get it over with !

Survivors take care of their own; buzzards take care of the rest.

8 posted on 05/18/2012 2:03:05 PM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

M1 Garand and lots of loaded ammo clips. Clean & ready.


9 posted on 05/18/2012 2:14:02 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“....Unless Afraid ‘Black Panthers Might Kill Them’”

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We can expect the same kind of jury intimidation in the future when we start putting muslim terrorists on public trial.

Military court martial is the answer.


10 posted on 05/18/2012 2:19:46 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: DBrow

TheSanford police may fearamob, I think Obama is praying for race riots this summer so he can use race to run on again.


11 posted on 05/18/2012 2:24:05 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...

CW2 Ping

"So what's the real difference between us nowadays and Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany or North Korea?"

They are not yet rounding up state enemies by the thousands, and putting them into "relocation camps."

Not yet.

But they did just buy those umpteen million .40 caliber hollowpoints....

12 posted on 05/18/2012 2:50:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Wiser now
I think Obama is praying for race riots this summer so he can use race to run on again.

I think it's deeper than that. Greece is about to implode, as in, no fuel for police or military, total breakdown, Katie bar the door. Refugees, neighboring states moving in to "restore order," who the hell knows.

So an economic contagion follows bank runs nation by nation to the USA.

Then Zimmerman is acquitted and the cities burn, with "shoot on sight" racial drive-bys etc etc. IOW, a full-on race war, flames fanned by the MSM and Obama.

Well, I'm thinking, how could you have "normal elections" this November, against the world busting apart at the seams?

Lenin said, "The worse, the better."

13 posted on 05/18/2012 3:05:09 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Snappy uniforms!


14 posted on 05/18/2012 3:09:44 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First rate interview.

From what he knows at this point, Zimmerman is entitled to perfect self defence, so said, Alan Dershowitz.


15 posted on 05/18/2012 3:09:48 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: PhilDragoo

He’ll pull out all the stops, “if” we have an election.

Your graphic is fabulous!


16 posted on 05/18/2012 3:11:09 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dershowitz took exception to Goldberg’s characterization of the problem of reporting around the Martin killing as being a liberal vs. conservative issue.

People and their blind spots are truly amazing. I wonder how Dersh explains their reporting?

17 posted on 05/18/2012 3:14:48 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
doubled down on his criticism..

While very subtle, this is another example of cluelessness on the writers part. Usually the term "double down" is used as a way to bluff or dig ones heels in on an untenable position. Alan Dershowitz is "doubling down" on a position that he wishes to he could raise by a factor of 1000 because his original position is now completely validated by this new evidence.

These "professional" writers are so freaking pathetic.

18 posted on 05/18/2012 3:15:01 PM PDT by BRL
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To: 353FMG

No doubt.


19 posted on 05/18/2012 3:24:16 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Travis McGee
But they did just buy those umpteen million .40 caliber hollowpoints....

And I keep thinking about picking up a .40 handgun. I'd have a good idea where a ready supply of ammo might be if the SHTF and the thugs come cruising.

20 posted on 05/18/2012 3:28:01 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Travis McGee
Someone should write a book about that !

Also puzzled as to what is going on with NATO in Chicago. Why is NATO now a target ? Why are the Feds gearing up for trouble against an organization that has not run into trouble here before ?

21 posted on 05/18/2012 3:41:47 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Travis McGee
UP...!!! (+)
22 posted on 05/18/2012 3:42:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: doorgunner69
And I keep thinking about picking up a .40 handgun

You might also want to pick up one of these:

http://www.impactguns.com/beretta-cx4-storm-40-carbine-px4-14-rd-mags-jx4p415.aspx

23 posted on 05/18/2012 3:43:55 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Are jurors anonymous? If there is a jury trial, can the jurors choose to be anonymous for life?


24 posted on 05/18/2012 3:46:03 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: justa-hairyape

I think it was the momentum of global movement of anarchists to Chicago for the G-8, or whatever. The G-8 summit got moved to Camp David for security (or so they say, who knows?) The NATO summit was just strapped onto the G-8, or something like that. The NATO summit was the only part of the global bigshot meeting left in CHicago.

George Soros had already paid for thousands of plane tickets from all over the world via his fronts, and so what the hell, why call off the anarchist party, just because the G-8ers fled in advance?

That is my theory of the moment.


25 posted on 05/18/2012 3:46:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SVTCobra03

Pricey little thing, but nice for range extension.


26 posted on 05/18/2012 4:43:52 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for that info. Looks like summer is here. So the save Obama riots will be upon us soon enough.
27 posted on 05/18/2012 5:25:16 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Travis McGee
I, personally, would not care to be a federal employee these days.
28 posted on 05/18/2012 5:36:36 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Travis McGee

Those 40 S&W rounds don’t appear to just be for the handguns. DHS has purchased a whole bunch of H&K UMP/40 submachine guns as well.


29 posted on 05/18/2012 5:38:01 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called “gay” instead.)
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To: CodeToad

Well that would explain the need for so many rounds but just how many did they buy?


30 posted on 05/18/2012 5:55:59 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Travis McGee
George Soros had already paid for thousands of plane tickets from all over the world via his fronts,

Ya know, this brings up an interesting dichotomy of legalese.
If I remember correctly, and I do, the original base charges levied against the "Chicago 7 (or 8)" back in the day was a Federal charge of "Conspiracy to Cross State Lines with intent to Commit Crimes."

That was the basis of that infamous bit of courtroom theater.

My question - Is this Federal statute still on the books?

If so, why isn't some underpaid and under-utilized Fed lawyer using this to root out this Soros conspiracy and there-by make a name for themselves in the legal, and media, game?

C'mon Fedo-Paper Pusher...Nut Up and Go For the Gusto!

31 posted on 05/18/2012 7:55:34 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Tainan

Under the “fast and furious” Obama/Holder admin? Are you joking? They will get VIP treatment by the TSA and Customs. “Heroes of the revolution.”


32 posted on 05/18/2012 8:54:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Molon Labbie

As I recall, the order was for “up to” 450 million, with an delivery to be spread over the next several years.


33 posted on 05/19/2012 6:59:28 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee
Well, I'm thinking, how could you have "normal elections" this November,...

There's no constitutional requirement for "normal elections".

If conditions are not conducive to "normal elections" come November, hopefully the state legislatures will designate the "Electors" who can then elect a president who doesn't hate Western Civilization as much as The Won and the barbarians on the other end of his BlackBerry do.

34 posted on 05/19/2012 7:42:25 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Zero, his thugs, his racist supporters, and his Partisan Media Shills started harping on this — blowing it up into a national issue — in a transparent attempt to flip Florida in November.

Florida will do a backflip before this is over.


35 posted on 05/19/2012 8:03:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dershowitz has been a total hawk on this case. I hope he keeps it up.
36 posted on 05/19/2012 8:13:26 AM PDT by galloway15
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To: DuncanWaring
..hopefully the state legislatures will designate the "Electors" who can then elect a president

Can this actually be done legally?

37 posted on 05/19/2012 8:13:43 AM PDT by galloway15
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To: tbw2
Are jurors anonymous? If there is a jury trial, can the jurors choose to be anonymous for life?

Didn't the judge in the Anthony case order the names of the jury released?

38 posted on 05/19/2012 8:17:15 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: SVTCobra03

That’s a neat carbine. But for the money, you could get an AR or a couple of AKs.

For that matter, if you really want a carbine, Hi-Point carbines have a very good reputation and are also half the price:

http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/carbines/carbines_4095TS.html


39 posted on 05/19/2012 8:26:22 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: galloway15
From Article II, Section 1 of the US Constitution:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

40 posted on 05/19/2012 8:34:18 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2111USMC
For that matter, if you really want a carbine, Hi-Point carbines have a very good reputation and are also half the price

Actually, I am considering a Hi-Point carbine in .45cal. I just wish someone would make high capacity mags for them.

41 posted on 05/19/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Yardstick; flaglady47; mickie; seenenuf; seekthetruth; Bob Ireland; surfer; Bushbacker1; ...
Dr. Alan Darthnowits denies it's a conservative vs. liberal issue.

Give me a break.

Physician, heal thyself.

He, a liberal, jumped in on the case as it was an easy issue for him to insinuate himself upon early in the game......and also gave him an opportunity to boast he's "fair and balanced" politically 'cause everyone knows he's a big liberal (attention-seeker) slyboots.

Even little ole me knew that the DA, *Madame Defarge Corey, had no case after I viewed her presser where she announced her overreaching and false charges against Mr. Zimmerman.

Prof. Darthnowits will ride this winning horse up to and after Mr. Zimmerman is acquited.

(P.S....*"Madame Defarge Corey".....Madame Defarge is a Dickens villainess in "A Tale of Two Cities" who sits knitting and salivating next to the revolutionary guillotine as the heads of the evil, wealthy, white, 1% Frenchies roll into a basket after getting the unkindest cut of all).

Leni

42 posted on 05/19/2012 9:14:46 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: 353FMG; 2ndDivisionVet
We can expect the same kind of jury intimidation in the future when we start putting muslim terrorists on public trial.

Military court martial is the answer.

That's the argument I've been making since October 2001.

43 posted on 05/19/2012 7:03:52 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Don’t argue, just wait till jurymembers are found dead with their throats cut.

Keep on agreeing with those that say that Islam is a ROP until that first nuke goes off and hope that, when it does, the majority of victims will be the liberal elites.

It’s only through calamity that most Americans get their senses back.


44 posted on 05/19/2012 7:47:30 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: tbw2

My recollection is that jurors can have anonymity if they choose. They certainly are free not to talk with anyone (i.e., reporters) after the verdict has been read. But I don’t know how, with potential leaks from the court or the attorneys’ offices, they could have absolute anonymity no matter where the trial might be held.


45 posted on 05/19/2012 8:02:04 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: MinuteGal

I actually will give Dershowitz the benefit of the doubt. I think he is sincere in what he is saying. Mistaken, but sincere. I think he’s a classic example of liberal blinders where despite obvious intelligence and an ability to see clearly on other issues, he just is totally out to lunch on media bias.


46 posted on 05/20/2012 8:06:16 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick; mickie
I agree with you, Yardstick. Thanks for the comment.

Like you, I believe the leftist, Dearthofwitz, is entirely sincere in his position on the Zimmerman case.

I always like to point out, though, that Dershowitz (and like that other statist, Bill O'Bloviator), a blind pig occasionally finds a valuable truffle.....and one lovely-feathered swallow flying here and there doesn't make a summer with either of these Obama-sniffers.....if you get my muddled metaphors, LOL.

Leni

47 posted on 05/20/2012 8:31:32 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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