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When the Trucks Stop, Itís Over
Daily Survival Blog ^ | 5/19/12 | Ken

Posted on 05/20/2012 7:41:45 AM PDT by Kartographer

Systemic risk. I guarantee that most ordinary folks have no idea that if trucks stopped rolling all across America, within a short period of time nearly all Americans would all be in a life-threatening situation from major delivery shortages. 70% of all freight that is moved in the U.S. is done so by truck. You (we) depend on that ‘stuff’ for our survival. A major disruption in truck travel would immediately impact seven major industries, and would bring America to its knees within days due in part to “just in time manufacturing”, zero-inventory, and the fact that our modern way of life is entirely dependent upon unimpeded distribution chains.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Society
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers; supplyline; survival; transporation; trucks; trucktransport; trucktransportation
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There have been several post before on this, but this is a very real concern. Never in history have so many people depended on their daily needs come from so great a distance. Now days there are no backrooms fill with products there an few local warehouses and nothing extra is kept on hand just in case.

Up until about 30 or 40 years ago what the local stores didn't stock was in your grandparents pantry, root cellar or in their garden. How many people have the same today?

1 posted on 05/20/2012 7:41:56 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 05/20/2012 7:43:39 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Having been a commercial driver, I know exactly what you’re saying.

It would be so easy to bring this nation to its knees, by shutting down the distribution network. Problem is, the trucking unions will continue to do their “Socialist Duty For The Nation” and keep driving.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 7:46:31 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Kartographer

Put me on your preppers list.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 7:46:31 AM PDT by painter (Rebuild The America We love!)
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To: Kartographer
Kart, you need to hit the abuse button on the dupe thread and get the admins to get rid of it.

/johnny

5 posted on 05/20/2012 7:46:35 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Pardon me for seeming dense, but why would the trucks just stop rolling? I can think of two reasons: EMP and nuclear war. Of course, there’s also plague and a zombie apocalypse, but you get my drift. Basically, the trucks are just a symptom of a larger catastrophe. I don’t think an economic recession or even a severe depression would bring American commerce to a standstill.


6 posted on 05/20/2012 7:47:47 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81
"Pardon me for seeming dense, but why would the trucks just stop rolling?

Had you considered reading the article? It might make you not so dense.
7 posted on 05/20/2012 7:52:53 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: rbg81

why would the trucks just stop rolling? I can think of two reasons: EMP and nuclear war.
How about widespread murder and looting? Why drive a truck if you think there’s a pretty good chance you’ll get shot?


8 posted on 05/20/2012 7:54:51 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Bystander "What are you protesting"? OWS "Whatdya got"?)
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To: Kartographer

When the trucks stop it will take a mere 3 days on average for most store shelves to go empty and then no more than 30 days for all warehouses to be empty, and most likely no more than 7 days. During those 3 to 30 days most items will go out of stock too quickly to count on getting any. During that time unrest will happen. Panic will set in. No amount of face time on TV by government officials can possibly quell the unrest. Why the trucks stopped will determine what happens next. If there is a financial collapse then all Hell breaks loose.


9 posted on 05/20/2012 7:58:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Kartographer

That’s why we need to get back to rail. It’s exponentially cheaper.


10 posted on 05/20/2012 7:58:53 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: CodeToad

I hope my Mother in law tastes like chicken


11 posted on 05/20/2012 7:59:32 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: al baby

she’s looking at you and getting out her cookbook, How to Serve Man, like in the Twilight Zone


12 posted on 05/20/2012 8:01:00 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: Old Sarge

With as little as commercial truck drivers are paid, it is amazing the trucks don’t stop anyhow, forget any other reason that might bring the nation’s supply chain to a hault.

If ever a group of people should be paid more, it is truck drivers.


13 posted on 05/20/2012 8:01:11 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Kartographer

> The Food Industry

I’m working on the food thing. I have my own well.

> Healthcare

We rarely use medical services and I have what I need.

> Transportation

I can work from home.

> Waste Removal

I have my own septic and I can burn my trash.

> Banking and Finance

This is my only exposure.


14 posted on 05/20/2012 8:02:31 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander

Also exponentially less flexible.


15 posted on 05/20/2012 8:02:34 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: TheRhinelander

Define: “cheaper”. What is cheaper to build; a concrete drive or a rail line to every grocery store in America?


16 posted on 05/20/2012 8:04:09 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kartographer
This sums it all up on what will happen. Saw this over time on some of the hurricanes we've had over the years.

It’s all pretty scary. The ripple effects would be severe, the specifics of which are far too many to list here. You may be of the opinion that something like this could or would never happen. You would be wrong to think so.

17 posted on 05/20/2012 8:04:35 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: TheRhinelander

So a spur going to every gas station and costco yeah that will happen


18 posted on 05/20/2012 8:04:53 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Old Sarge
Problem is, the trucking unions will continue to do their “Socialist Duty For The Nation” and keep driving.

What trucking unions? The long haul drivers have rejected efforts to organize them. The Teamsters gave up trying. This is a group of people that are as American as apple pie, conservative and working hard.

There are certainly union drivers out there, but a vast majority of those driving long haul (independent and company drivers) from distribution point to distribution point are non union. Some are lucky to be pulling in $350 a week, and that is a work week that has them away from home for weeks.

19 posted on 05/20/2012 8:05:44 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: al baby

Probably more like stringy cat...so use lots of salt.


20 posted on 05/20/2012 8:07:52 AM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: TheRhinelander

Does your septic system depend on electricity? Is there a pump?


21 posted on 05/20/2012 8:08:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: Kartographer
"Up until about 30 or 40 years ago what the local stores didn't stock was in your grandparents pantry, root cellar or in their garden. How many people have the same today? "

blam, raises hand.

I'm reminded of the potato and it's import to Europe from Peru. ( The late 1500's)

There was a population explosion in Europe when the potato arrived and was widely grown. Previously, it was fairly routine for Europeans to die of starvation during the repeated famines that swept Europe, the potato mostly stopped these famines. (Imagine having to select which child to save and which to let die.)

Ireland was no exception. When the potato blight hit the Irish potato crop (approximately) 1.5 million starved to death and 1.5 million migrated.(I know that the British had a hand too)

Ireland is the only country that has a smaller population today than it did in 1840 because of the potato famine there in the 1800's.

22 posted on 05/20/2012 8:11:24 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer; rbg81
Had you considered reading the article? It might make you not so dense.

That is a very rude comment. We are all FRiends here on FR. Please stop being rude. You can say it nicely.

23 posted on 05/20/2012 8:11:31 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I drove a dedicated route that had me back home every 4-5 days. This was back during the Clinton era.

Union drivers comprise more of the industry than you realize. Kroger Inc., for example, is a closed shop; you want to work, you’re union. UPS ground transport, same thing. Organized trucking services the urban areas, the places most affected during a shutdown.


24 posted on 05/20/2012 8:13:26 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Kartographer
Up until about 30 or 40 years ago what the local stores didn't stock was in your grandparents pantry, root cellar or in their garden.

I grew up around the huge family gardens and cleaning and canning at the kitchen table, but I didn't pay much attention to the hows and the whys of what was being done.

And I'm still kicking myself for taking so much for granted!

Fortunately, we are rediscovering our somewhat forgotten heritage before it's too late...I hope it's not too late.

25 posted on 05/20/2012 8:15:20 AM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happing to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: Kartographer

I’m convinced. I’m going to go buy 20,000 rounds of 22 ammo and move to a cave in the mountains. My life will SUCK, but I’ll be ready when life as we know it ends....


26 posted on 05/20/2012 8:15:20 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: TheRhinelander
That’s why we need to get back to rail. It’s exponentially cheaper.

If you got it, a truck brought it. There is no changing that. Rail sidings do not back up to the local HomeDepot, Walmart or Grocery store.

You are correct about freight trains having an important role but they are a little farther up the distribution supply chain than trucks and the trains can't replace the trucks.

27 posted on 05/20/2012 8:15:42 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You think that was rude, you should have read it before the rewrite.


28 posted on 05/20/2012 8:19:18 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: TheRhinelander

Is that you, Willie?


29 posted on 05/20/2012 8:22:25 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Old Sarge

I don’t doubt there are unionized truckers. You were lucky by the way to have one of those dedicated routes. Sure beats sitting at a terminal waiting or a truck stop waiting days for a load. Just the same, I would say that the percentage of union long haul drivers is very low. But, why guess when we can know. Shall we look it up. We are both speaking from anecdotal information.

By the way, thanks for the job you did. I will always have an appreciation for truckers ever since the day our family got in distress along a highway and it was only a trucker that stopped to help.


30 posted on 05/20/2012 8:22:52 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
I am not a trucker. I do however listen to a late night radio program...America Trucking Radio...along with all you say, new regulations are also restricting transportation. Most of these guys and some gals are very conservative, hard working, God fearing people who love their country. They find themselves regulated, restricted and strangled economically.
31 posted on 05/20/2012 8:24:28 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: Kartographer

The article suggests it will take 2-3 days for gas stations to run dry.

That strikes me as overly optimistic.

The city of Phoenix gets nearly all its gasoline via a pipeline connected in Tucson to another pipeline from El Paso.

About 10 years ago, that pipeline from Tucson sprang a leak and was inop for a couple of weeks while being repaired, and all gasoline/diesel fuel had to be trucked from Tucson.

It didn’t take 2-3 days; gas stations started running dry in hours.

Stations that had gas had long lines, just like in the ‘70s.

There were three stations on the corner nearest to where I lived. One of them generally had gas, but usually by the time one of the “empties” got restocked, the one that had gas was either “out” or darned-near out.


32 posted on 05/20/2012 8:24:30 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer
You think that was rude, you should have read it before the rewrite.

LOL. Okay, well at least your are trying. You get lots of points for that. I've done some "rewrites" myself. FReepRegards

33 posted on 05/20/2012 8:25:31 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Roccus

Willie seemed to be more of a passenger-train guy.


34 posted on 05/20/2012 8:28:21 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

You had a driver stop to assist you? Dayum! That’s contrary to what we as drivers were told: you NEVER stop to render any assistance, for two reasons: one, you’re not paid to help others, you’re paid to drive; and two, stopping opens you up to an ambush.

Looking things up is always good.


35 posted on 05/20/2012 8:31:26 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: al baby

LOL! Best post of the day.


36 posted on 05/20/2012 8:31:26 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: TheRhinelander

“That’s why we need to get back to rail. It’s exponentially cheaper.”
I live in the Palouse region, SE Washington State and adjacent portions of Idaho, where unbelievable tonnages of wheat are grown, plus lesser amounts of several pulse crops (dry peas, lentils, garbanzos), a great deal of which is hauled to Portland by truck and river barge on the Snake/Columbia rivers. Rail service to many small cities in the midst of all this bulk commodity production is being terminated, the rails removed.
In addition, huge amounts of Montana grain are trucked to a Snake River port at Lewiston/Clarkston via Lolo Pass and crooked,curvy U. S. Hwy 12 down the Clearwater River valley. Hard to believe that all this truck transport is more economical than rail.


37 posted on 05/20/2012 8:36:32 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: GBA

My story is the same — grew up around gardening and canning and never got involed. Now i’m learning canning processes and techniques and my 25 yr old daughter is learning and doing right along with me. Now is the time to learn and hone these important skills.


38 posted on 05/20/2012 8:40:58 AM PDT by The FIGHTIN Illini (Beware of politicians saying they can fix anything)
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To: rbg81
Pardon me for seeming dense, but why would the trucks just stop rolling?

Many, many reasons.

For one - imagine multiple Reginald Denny incidents in every town and city across the country where the zombies comprise a significant part of the population.

That scenario is not too far fetched once the country goes bankrupt and the handouts have to be cut back.


39 posted on 05/20/2012 8:41:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Mr Rogers
and move to a cave in the mountains.

Please do. ;)

/johnny

40 posted on 05/20/2012 8:49:32 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Old Sarge

I guess one trucker a few years back made a lasting impression on me.


41 posted on 05/20/2012 8:49:48 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom; rbg81; Kartographer
That is a very rude comment. We are all FRiends here on FR. Please stop being rude. You can say it nicely.

He only confirmed what rbg81 originally said:

"Pardon me for seeming dense"

Although I guess he coule have said:

Next time, please read the article before commenting. Pretty please?


42 posted on 05/20/2012 8:51:11 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If you want total security, go to prison. The only thing lacking is freedom - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: Taffini

My mil lives with us her cook book is the back of the box


43 posted on 05/20/2012 8:52:42 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: rbg81

New Madrid EQ and bridges down.

Terrorists and bridges down.

Grids disrupted due to other causes besides EMP (read debates about that), such as hacking. Or above mentioned EQ.


44 posted on 05/20/2012 8:59:23 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: TheRhinelander
That’s why we need to get back to rail. It’s exponentially cheaper.

Is that you Warren Buffet..?

In any case....no trucks = no freight trains.

Since trucks are used to load and unload the freight.

45 posted on 05/20/2012 9:00:14 AM PDT by spokeshave (If Obama is Lenin....and Van Jones is Trotsky.....where are Stalin....Mao....Pal Pot?)
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To: Old Sarge

I blew up a u haul around midnight in the arizona desert i started walking to the lights two truckers stopped one female one male the female said i give you a lift well they were heading to L.A.so was i they drove me right to my car 20 miles out of there way I tried to pay them they refuse she even let me use her sleeper to get some kip nice people


46 posted on 05/20/2012 9:00:23 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: TheRhinelander

How do you get water out of your well? Electricity?

We got a solar well pump and already only pump the well as needed and have about 3000 gallons worth of storage tanks.


47 posted on 05/20/2012 9:01:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: The FIGHTIN Illini
I do a lot of drying. Because I live alone, but cook from scratch, sometimes I wind up with more of a product than I can use before it goes bad. Carrots and celery are two prime examples. I cook a lot using onions, carrots, and celery, but a bunch of celery or 2 lbs of carrots will go bad before I get through them.

So I dehydrate what I'm not going to use fresh, and it works just as well for soups, stocks, and roasts.

Saves money, and it means I've always got some put back, just in case...

/johnny

48 posted on 05/20/2012 9:03:54 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

About the same senarios exist should the ships or rails become idle..... Trucks are one link in the delivery system for most goods.


49 posted on 05/20/2012 9:05:00 AM PDT by deport (.............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Old Sarge

It always cracks me up when clowns whine about all those filthy trucks hogging the highway.

A couple of days (at most) without them and we’d all be wishing we had a horse drawn wagon to go to the rail yard to do our shopping.


50 posted on 05/20/2012 9:06:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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