Skip to comments.When the Trucks Stop, Itís Over
Posted on 05/20/2012 7:41:45 AM PDT by Kartographer
Systemic risk. I guarantee that most ordinary folks have no idea that if trucks stopped rolling all across America, within a short period of time nearly all Americans would all be in a life-threatening situation from major delivery shortages. 70% of all freight that is moved in the U.S. is done so by truck. You (we) depend on that stuff for our survival. A major disruption in truck travel would immediately impact seven major industries, and would bring America to its knees within days due in part to just in time manufacturing, zero-inventory, and the fact that our modern way of life is entirely dependent upon unimpeded distribution chains.
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Up until about 30 or 40 years ago what the local stores didn't stock was in your grandparents pantry, root cellar or in their garden. How many people have the same today?
Having been a commercial driver, I know exactly what you’re saying.
It would be so easy to bring this nation to its knees, by shutting down the distribution network. Problem is, the trucking unions will continue to do their “Socialist Duty For The Nation” and keep driving.
Put me on your preppers list.
Pardon me for seeming dense, but why would the trucks just stop rolling? I can think of two reasons: EMP and nuclear war. Of course, there’s also plague and a zombie apocalypse, but you get my drift. Basically, the trucks are just a symptom of a larger catastrophe. I don’t think an economic recession or even a severe depression would bring American commerce to a standstill.
why would the trucks just stop rolling? I can think of two reasons: EMP and nuclear war.
How about widespread murder and looting? Why drive a truck if you think there’s a pretty good chance you’ll get shot?
When the trucks stop it will take a mere 3 days on average for most store shelves to go empty and then no more than 30 days for all warehouses to be empty, and most likely no more than 7 days. During those 3 to 30 days most items will go out of stock too quickly to count on getting any. During that time unrest will happen. Panic will set in. No amount of face time on TV by government officials can possibly quell the unrest. Why the trucks stopped will determine what happens next. If there is a financial collapse then all Hell breaks loose.
That’s why we need to get back to rail. It’s exponentially cheaper.
I hope my Mother in law tastes like chicken
she’s looking at you and getting out her cookbook, How to Serve Man, like in the Twilight Zone
With as little as commercial truck drivers are paid, it is amazing the trucks don’t stop anyhow, forget any other reason that might bring the nation’s supply chain to a hault.
If ever a group of people should be paid more, it is truck drivers.
> The Food Industry
I’m working on the food thing. I have my own well.
We rarely use medical services and I have what I need.
I can work from home.
> Waste Removal
I have my own septic and I can burn my trash.
> Banking and Finance
This is my only exposure.
Also exponentially less flexible.
Define: “cheaper”. What is cheaper to build; a concrete drive or a rail line to every grocery store in America?
Its all pretty scary. The ripple effects would be severe, the specifics of which are far too many to list here. You may be of the opinion that something like this could or would never happen. You would be wrong to think so.
So a spur going to every gas station and costco yeah that will happen
What trucking unions? The long haul drivers have rejected efforts to organize them. The Teamsters gave up trying. This is a group of people that are as American as apple pie, conservative and working hard.
There are certainly union drivers out there, but a vast majority of those driving long haul (independent and company drivers) from distribution point to distribution point are non union. Some are lucky to be pulling in $350 a week, and that is a work week that has them away from home for weeks.
Probably more like stringy cat...so use lots of salt.
Does your septic system depend on electricity? Is there a pump?
blam, raises hand.
I'm reminded of the potato and it's import to Europe from Peru. ( The late 1500's)
There was a population explosion in Europe when the potato arrived and was widely grown. Previously, it was fairly routine for Europeans to die of starvation during the repeated famines that swept Europe, the potato mostly stopped these famines. (Imagine having to select which child to save and which to let die.)
Ireland was no exception. When the potato blight hit the Irish potato crop (approximately) 1.5 million starved to death and 1.5 million migrated.(I know that the British had a hand too)
Ireland is the only country that has a smaller population today than it did in 1840 because of the potato famine there in the 1800's.
That is a very rude comment. We are all FRiends here on FR. Please stop being rude. You can say it nicely.
I drove a dedicated route that had me back home every 4-5 days. This was back during the Clinton era.
Union drivers comprise more of the industry than you realize. Kroger Inc., for example, is a closed shop; you want to work, you’re union. UPS ground transport, same thing. Organized trucking services the urban areas, the places most affected during a shutdown.
I grew up around the huge family gardens and cleaning and canning at the kitchen table, but I didn't pay much attention to the hows and the whys of what was being done.
And I'm still kicking myself for taking so much for granted!
Fortunately, we are rediscovering our somewhat forgotten heritage before it's too late...I hope it's not too late.
I’m convinced. I’m going to go buy 20,000 rounds of 22 ammo and move to a cave in the mountains. My life will SUCK, but I’ll be ready when life as we know it ends....
If you got it, a truck brought it. There is no changing that. Rail sidings do not back up to the local HomeDepot, Walmart or Grocery store.
You are correct about freight trains having an important role but they are a little farther up the distribution supply chain than trucks and the trains can't replace the trucks.
You think that was rude, you should have read it before the rewrite.
Is that you, Willie?
I don’t doubt there are unionized truckers. You were lucky by the way to have one of those dedicated routes. Sure beats sitting at a terminal waiting or a truck stop waiting days for a load. Just the same, I would say that the percentage of union long haul drivers is very low. But, why guess when we can know. Shall we look it up. We are both speaking from anecdotal information.
By the way, thanks for the job you did. I will always have an appreciation for truckers ever since the day our family got in distress along a highway and it was only a trucker that stopped to help.
The article suggests it will take 2-3 days for gas stations to run dry.
That strikes me as overly optimistic.
The city of Phoenix gets nearly all its gasoline via a pipeline connected in Tucson to another pipeline from El Paso.
About 10 years ago, that pipeline from Tucson sprang a leak and was inop for a couple of weeks while being repaired, and all gasoline/diesel fuel had to be trucked from Tucson.
It didn’t take 2-3 days; gas stations started running dry in hours.
Stations that had gas had long lines, just like in the ‘70s.
There were three stations on the corner nearest to where I lived. One of them generally had gas, but usually by the time one of the “empties” got restocked, the one that had gas was either “out” or darned-near out.
LOL. Okay, well at least your are trying. You get lots of points for that. I've done some "rewrites" myself. FReepRegards
Willie seemed to be more of a passenger-train guy.
You had a driver stop to assist you? Dayum! That’s contrary to what we as drivers were told: you NEVER stop to render any assistance, for two reasons: one, you’re not paid to help others, you’re paid to drive; and two, stopping opens you up to an ambush.
Looking things up is always good.
LOL! Best post of the day.
“Thats why we need to get back to rail. Its exponentially cheaper.”
I live in the Palouse region, SE Washington State and adjacent portions of Idaho, where unbelievable tonnages of wheat are grown, plus lesser amounts of several pulse crops (dry peas, lentils, garbanzos), a great deal of which is hauled to Portland by truck and river barge on the Snake/Columbia rivers. Rail service to many small cities in the midst of all this bulk commodity production is being terminated, the rails removed.
In addition, huge amounts of Montana grain are trucked to a Snake River port at Lewiston/Clarkston via Lolo Pass and crooked,curvy U. S. Hwy 12 down the Clearwater River valley. Hard to believe that all this truck transport is more economical than rail.
My story is the same — grew up around gardening and canning and never got involed. Now i’m learning canning processes and techniques and my 25 yr old daughter is learning and doing right along with me. Now is the time to learn and hone these important skills.
Many, many reasons.
For one - imagine multiple Reginald Denny incidents in every town and city across the country where the zombies comprise a significant part of the population.
That scenario is not too far fetched once the country goes bankrupt and the handouts have to be cut back.
Please do. ;)
I guess one trucker a few years back made a lasting impression on me.
He only confirmed what rbg81 originally said:
"Pardon me for seeming dense"
Although I guess he coule have said:
Next time, please read the article before commenting. Pretty please?
My mil lives with us her cook book is the back of the box
New Madrid EQ and bridges down.
Terrorists and bridges down.
Grids disrupted due to other causes besides EMP (read debates about that), such as hacking. Or above mentioned EQ.
Is that you Warren Buffet..?
In any case....no trucks = no freight trains.
Since trucks are used to load and unload the freight.
I blew up a u haul around midnight in the arizona desert i started walking to the lights two truckers stopped one female one male the female said i give you a lift well they were heading to L.A.so was i they drove me right to my car 20 miles out of there way I tried to pay them they refuse she even let me use her sleeper to get some kip nice people
How do you get water out of your well? Electricity?
We got a solar well pump and already only pump the well as needed and have about 3000 gallons worth of storage tanks.
So I dehydrate what I'm not going to use fresh, and it works just as well for soups, stocks, and roasts.
Saves money, and it means I've always got some put back, just in case...
About the same senarios exist should the ships or rails become idle..... Trucks are one link in the delivery system for most goods.
It always cracks me up when clowns whine about all those filthy trucks hogging the highway.
A couple of days (at most) without them and we’d all be wishing we had a horse drawn wagon to go to the rail yard to do our shopping.
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