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Annapolis to BUDS Requirements...
vanity | 10-20-2012 | self

Posted on 05/20/2012 6:32:39 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est

A youngster working on the ranch here expressed interest in becoming a SEAL. I mentioned that I may be of help in his acceptance to Annapolis. He, of course, wondered if he could go directly from Annapolis to BUDS after graduation. I did not have an answer for him.

Any FReepers know the answer?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: annapolis; buds; navy; vanity

1 posted on 05/20/2012 6:32:43 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Carthego delenda est; Travis McGee

There is only one FReeper of whom you can rely on the answer. Pinging Travis McGee.


2 posted on 05/20/2012 6:35:25 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Carthego delenda est

It’s rare - usually the NAV wants the officers to have a warfare specialty already (air or sea or CB) if they don’t make it through training ... my $.02 ...


3 posted on 05/20/2012 6:38:22 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: mnehring

there are two considerations. One is that they will take newbies who pass the first tests. those have a high washout rate and get sent elsewhere in the fleet.

the smarter thing is to get 6-7 years experience in UDT or another related area, then apply you will have the kind of seasoning and experience they are looking for. You already know the drill.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 6:41:58 PM PDT by bioqubit
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To: bioqubit

When I graduated in ‘95 there were direct BUDS/SEAL billets. Don’t know what the story is now though. And for all Freepers out there-—Go Navy! Beat Army!


5 posted on 05/20/2012 6:47:47 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Carthego delenda est

My wife is a US Naval Academy Information Officer (aka Blue and Gold Officer) - and these are the statistics:

The numbers vary from year to year, but on average, about 15 members of a USNA graduating class are selected for Navy SEALs and go directly to BUDS. About another dozen will do other special ops (including EOD).

We have one friend whose son (also USNA graduate) initially selected SWO and transferred into SEALs from the Fleet.


6 posted on 05/20/2012 6:53:39 PM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias

thank you


7 posted on 05/20/2012 7:07:09 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Carthego delenda est

Last I heard, it was extremely competetive to get a slot from Annapolis to BUD/S Training. (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL Training.) Maybe a handful of slots for a few dozen who would like to go. I think he might have a better shot from an NROTC program, which is how I went, way back in 1979.


8 posted on 05/20/2012 7:25:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bioqubit

THe UDTs passed into history in 1983.


9 posted on 05/20/2012 7:26:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Carthego delenda est

Academy grads will go to mini-BUDS and for a few months prior to classing up, but yes Academy shits will go straight to BUDS.

If your guys is going to the Academy, tell him to try out for water-polo, they have the highest grad rate.

He can also go ROTC, but BUDS is a tough billet for ROTC. Enlisted is the easiest route and least responsibility during class.

Also, ignore recruiters and most other advice. Get your guy in contact with a dive motivator (and there’s no such thing as UDT, that went away with Jesse the body. And certainly don’t hit the fleet for a few years prior to going out west.)


10 posted on 05/20/2012 7:27:10 PM PDT by rightofthefairway
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To: Travis McGee

No NROTC program here in Southern New Mexico that I am aware of...


11 posted on 05/20/2012 7:37:39 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Carthego delenda est

Is his primary goal to become a U.S. naval officer, or a SEAL? It might be better odds for him to enlist, and go to BUD/S that way. Just a thought.


12 posted on 05/20/2012 7:42:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Carthego delenda est

I don’t know about today, but close friend of mine did in 1987.


13 posted on 05/20/2012 7:43:10 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Carthego delenda est

UNM used to have one, U of A also.


14 posted on 05/20/2012 7:44:49 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Okieshooter

thank you!


15 posted on 05/20/2012 8:00:33 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: rightofthefairway

Just as a complete side note - The same was true at my High School. A survey was done of the GPAs of those in sports versus out. The average GPA of all people pursuing sports was higher than the average of those not in sports - even the Football team had a higher GPA. The Water Polo team had the highest average GPA. One of the guys on the H2O team that year went to Cal Tech. Now a PHd in EE from there.. so there may be something to it ;-)


16 posted on 05/20/2012 8:00:51 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Travis McGee

“Is his primary goal to become a U.S. naval officer, or a SEAL? It might be better odds for him to enlist, and go to BUD/S that way. Just a thought.”

I’m sure that He is not sure with that. Twas my suggestion of Annapolis... Being “the best of the best, of the best” has a bit more appeal than being addressed as ‘Sir’ for a guy his age.


17 posted on 05/20/2012 8:16:12 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: rightofthefairway

“tell him to try out for water-polo”

Sure.

I will.

This guy is someone you’d want to train to be on your team.


18 posted on 05/20/2012 8:55:42 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Carthego delenda est

Way back in ‘65 a call went out for volunteers for Second Class Diving School (Salvage Divers). I signed up along with four others. Three of us went TAD to Diving School and we returned to our ship and worked out of the Diving Locker.

Most of our work was hull inspections but we also had a couple of propellor changes and also replacing 26 zinc plates on Destroyers. Loved the work.

Totally different type of work than BUDS, EOD and SEALS but we had the greatest respect for the UDTs and SEALS.


19 posted on 05/20/2012 9:32:21 PM PDT by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I Can Face Tomorrow)
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If you had the MOS, I'd think you can get on the training roster. My son, USMC, had a recon/scout sniper MOS and served in Marine Special Ops right after jump and US Army Special Ops school. Normally, though, they want men with a tour of duty or three in a combat environment.

One of my sons buddies he grew up with went to OCS, then got his comission. Went through BUDS as an officer.

20 posted on 05/20/2012 11:37:35 PM PDT by CT
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To: Carthego delenda est

As a career Marine and then Army special operator I would tell him “Rum Sodomy and the Lash are the only true naval traditions” LOL! Good luck to him and tell him whatever he does when he is in BUDS he should keep reminding himself that quitters end up as boatswain’s mates. Scraping and painting isn’t really very glamorous.


21 posted on 05/21/2012 12:40:55 AM PDT by armykungfu
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To: Carthego delenda est

Another factor: as a Naval Special Warfare officer, he would only be an “operator” (an actual shooter in a platoon) for a few years, before being ranked out. As an enlisted SEAL, he could be an operator in a platoon for most of his career.


22 posted on 05/21/2012 3:50:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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