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Public Schools Aren't About Academics Anymore
www.setourchildrenfree.com ^ | 5/17/12 | Tony Caruso

Posted on 05/21/2012 5:27:03 AM PDT by Guido2012

If you want to know what really goes on in our public schools, go to a teacher-of-the-year banquet. Here you will see why schools aren't about academics anymore. Educators will never admit it openly, but an event like this reveals so much that outsiders never get to see.


TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: acacedemics; academics; education; homeschool; homeschooling; learning; publiceducation; publicschools; selfesteem; teacher; teaching
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To: Guido2012

Public Schools focus is on liberal social engineering.

The basic skills necessary to prepare for a productive career, are absent.


21 posted on 05/21/2012 7:10:28 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: MtBaldy

“For the most part the teachers teaching your kids became teachers because it was the only college course of study they could complete.”

I chose to teach. Not all of us. Of course, I refuse to join the teachers union, and that makes life substantially more difficult, but I do get to teach a decent curriculum at a wonderful school.


22 posted on 05/21/2012 7:19:47 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Guido2012

I used to live in Montgomery County,MD,supposedly one of the “best” school systems in the nation. I was talking with a young man who I worked with who had grown up in the county, and asked him some questions like “When was the Civil War?,”
“who was president during that war?,” “When was WW II?,” name one amendment to the Constitution,” and he was clueless. I was astounded, since these were common knowledge for me since I was a boy. Some years ago, the county implemented a sex ed curriculum that included information on homosexuality and promoted it as a normal lifestyle. A group of parents took the school district to court for the right to allow their children to opt out and go to the library during that class. A judge ruled that the right of the state to educate children took precedence over the wishes of the parents. That is chilling!


23 posted on 05/21/2012 7:21:43 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: Jedidah

Excellent educations in Texas? What schools were those, pray?

You should realize that this is a typical rationalization provided by government education welfare queens.


24 posted on 05/21/2012 7:29:46 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Jedidah
And their parents don’t care.

There it is. It all boils down to parental involvement. If a school doesn't have parents staying on top of things, the kids are doomed.

25 posted on 05/21/2012 8:07:31 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Jedidah

This is what I think of your school system - defund it. Let the families of Texas pay for their own kids’ education. That is how you improve it - no money for teachers or infrastructure.


26 posted on 05/21/2012 8:08:54 AM PDT by impimp
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To: US Navy Vet

Ignorance is bliss.


27 posted on 05/21/2012 8:32:43 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: impimp

“This is what I think of your school system - defund it. Let the families of Texas pay for their own kids’ education. That is how you improve it - no money for teachers or infrastructure.”

Exactly, that’s how we put man on the moon and won WWII.


28 posted on 05/21/2012 8:35:39 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Guido2012

My Son is in a private, Christian school. He quit the basketball team (the coach was more concerned with advancing himself then teaching the kids) and the math teacher took it out on him. She was the basketball coach’s daughter. People are just bags of emotions walking around.


29 posted on 05/21/2012 8:47:33 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: bgill

“””There it is. It all boils down to parental involvement. If a school doesn’t have parents staying on top of things, the kids are doomed.””

This is not entirely true. We spent a lot of time trying to make the curriculum the public school had work. In the end we had to pull our kids out to get some decent curriculum to teach them with. Our involvement in our public school had no effect in getting our kids to learn. We talked to the teachers daily and still they were falling behind.

Parent involvement in public school is not the only thing that will ensure that your kid succeed or not. I will agree that it is very important to have parental involvement but it is not the only thing holding kids back.


30 posted on 05/21/2012 8:54:58 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: A Strict Constructionist

Are you saying that America was a horses a55 prior to the end of the 19th century when public school became widespread?

Public education promotes godlessness. I am not OK with that. Ask yourself what would happen without public education. I’ll tell you - religious education would fill the vacuum, as would homeschooling.


31 posted on 05/21/2012 9:34:30 AM PDT by impimp
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To: A Strict Constructionist

Are you saying that America was a horses a55 prior to the end of the 19th century when public school became widespread?

Public education promotes godlessness. I am not OK with that. Ask yourself what would happen without public education. I’ll tell you - religious education would fill the vacuum, as would homeschooling.


32 posted on 05/21/2012 9:35:02 AM PDT by impimp
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To: impimp

“Public education promotes godlessness.”

That’s just like saying a good Catholic education promotes child molestation, get real.

Did you happen to teach at Ganus in New Orleans? I remember my daughters teacher told her and a friend that they would end up pregnant if they left and went to Ben Franklin with the rest of the nerds. Funny but the no one in her class at BF ended up pregnant, in a much larger class. Several of her former classmates including one of the preachers kids who was the minister of the school founders family and of the above mentioned teacher ended up pregnant. Don’t come back with the abortion argument it would apply to both schools.

I’ve learned that you get what you pay for from a parochial education. Pay more get more and you don’t have to put up with any disruptions because they kick them out so that the public schools have to deal with them. Religious affiliation doesn’t matter you’re equally gone. It is amazing that religious principle’s don’t always apply when it comes to catering to the richer members of the community.


33 posted on 05/21/2012 9:55:25 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MtBaldy

Well, it was good enough to earn them all four-year academic scholarships to a Tier 1 research university, where they have excelled in engineering.

And they’re committed conservative voters, to boot.


34 posted on 05/21/2012 11:54:41 AM PDT by Jedidah ("In those days Israel had no king. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.")
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To: achilles2000

Sweetie, this FReeper has, without being on the public dole, encouraged three kids through public school, seen them excel in college, and now become responsible taxpayers and voters.

Not bad for a “welfare queen,” huh?

It’s discouraging sometimes to realize how bombastic and ignorant some FReepers are. You simply don’t know what you’re talking about.


35 posted on 05/21/2012 11:58:23 AM PDT by Jedidah ("In those days Israel had no king. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.")
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To: HGSW0904

No, sir, my definition of excellent is excellent. Like National Merit excellent, OK? Like top-of-the-class multiple scholarship excellent. Like nearing six figures upon college graduation excellent.

I could not have taught the tough curricula my kids took in high school, but they had excellent teachers who could and did, with my support all they way.

And I honor them for it.

There are terrible teachers and there are terrible schools, and there are terrible doctors and great ones, and terrible lawyers and great ones, etc. etc. It’s a mistake to use a broad brush to tar and feather the good with the bad, and that’s what many on this board want to do.


36 posted on 05/21/2012 12:06:24 PM PDT by Jedidah ("In those days Israel had no king. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.")
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To: Jedidah

Government school welfare queen. One step away from EBT.


37 posted on 05/21/2012 12:17:37 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Pollster1

My experience with GT was good in GA but poor in NC.


38 posted on 05/21/2012 12:46:55 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Jedidah

Then it would seem your definition of excellent and mine are pretty similar. Good for you and for your kids! I’m glad to hear something positive coming from public education. My niece (also public school educated) informed me recently that when she took the ACT, about half of the students didn’t know how to sign their names in cursive. So to hear a success story is refreshing. I’m guessing there was good support at your home, which can make a great deal of difference. I think most parents are completely tuned out to what goes on at school, and the school issues are far more complicated than just bad teachers. Red tape, political correctness, overwhelmed faculty, absent parents, illegal immigrants straining the system, and, yes, radical teachers imposing an agenda all contribute to a system that needs some serious help.


39 posted on 05/21/2012 2:57:04 PM PDT by HGSW0904
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To: Jedidah

Well, then they escaped the indoctrination and you did good.


40 posted on 05/21/2012 4:18:53 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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