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4 Reasons Why THC Should Not be a Factor in Trayvon Martin's Death (Unintentional Laff Riot)
PolicyMic ^ | May 20, 2012 | Ursula Brantley

Posted on 05/21/2012 9:58:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ever since Trayvon Martin was gunned down by George Zimmerman just moments from his front door, some people have been trying to make Trayvon look like a trouble making 17-year-old black kid who started a fight with a man who was only doing his job. That's crap!

Regardless of what they say, I know in my heart that wasn’t the person he was. I’m not saying he was an angel because no one is perfect, but he’s not what people are trying to make him out to be. I consider that totally disrespectful for anyone to slander anyone else’s name when they’re no longer breathing to defend themselves. I believe it’s a cowardly and disrespectful move. So what if he was suspended from school for having a baggie with marijuana residue in it and he has THC in his system at the time of death, you can’t judge someone for something you have done or still do. Here are four reasons why Trayvon’s marijuana usage should be completely irrelevant.

1. You can’t judge someone for something you have done or still do.

Everyday people of all ages, races, and social statuses fire up blunts, smoke joints, and hit bongs in hopes of easing their minds and obtaining that good feeling. Though everyone in the world doesn’t smoke weed, the average person does smoke or has at least tried smoking. Those who smoke can tell you that they more than likely started smoking as a young kid, teenager, or in their 20’s. If anyone has tried smoking, it was usually during the previously mentioned time that this experience took place. May I remind you that The People’s Son, as I would like to call him, was only 17-years-old? No one walking this earth is perfect, so people need to put their fingers down.

2. Marijuana Does Not make you aggressive.

THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, has been proven to make the user the complete opposite of aggressive. Anyone who uses common sense knows that weed is considered a downer and not an upper, which means that it’s going to slow you down and calm you before it makes you aggressive and prone to violence. After smoking any amount of weed, no one really wants to fight; they just want to eat and chill out. Alcohol is the strongest pharmacological link to violence and it’s the one that’s actually legal.

3. People use drugs and alcohol use to paint imperfect pictures of people.

People are always so quick to use toxicology reports against other people to make them seem like a less than adequate person. If you drank a beer or two, would you like it if people called you an alcoholic? I don’t think you would appreciate it very much. Ok, now imagine you were deceased. How would you feel, so to speak, and how do you think your family and friends will feel when they know you good and well you were nothing of the sort? Reports say that Trayvon’s THC and THC-COOH levels were so low that they can’t be connected to intoxication. Even if he was stoned out of his mind from smoking the best weed ever grown, he still wouldn’t have been in an aggressive state because weed is a downer and not an upper.

4. Drug use of any type is irrelevant because Trayvon was minding his own business while was he was on his way home.

It doesn’t matter if Trayvon was smoking weed or smoking crack, the point is that he was in his own zone minding his own business while he was on his way to his place of residence. He never took it upon himself to go mess with George Zimmerman, Zimmerman took it upon himself to mess with Trayvon. Trayvon could have been blowed out of his mind, but he wasn’t bothering anyone. If he was high at the time he was killed, he was just going home to finish watching the game and enjoy his high. He didn’t want any trouble, but trouble sure sniffed him out like a rabid bloodhound.

It’s been almost three months since Sybrina and Tracy saw or talked to their son. I know what it feels like to want to hold your child, but realize that all you can hold is a picture and your memories. Sometimes people just want to report the facts or get their point across, but don’t always stop to realize that this isn’t just a news story; this is an innocent life that’s gone and a family that’s hurting. People are quick to report someone else’s shortcomings, but work twice as hard to hide their own.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: blackkk; disrespecting; florida; georgezimmerman; libertarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; ricksantorum; thepeoplesson; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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Yes, she called him "The People's Son" and no, I didn't write this as satire. This is a real author and a real article.
1 posted on 05/21/2012 9:58:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If de nose be broke, you must acquit de bloke!


2 posted on 05/21/2012 10:04:08 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a shame that someone who is capable of writing coherent sentences, as this author is, has nothing but nonsense to convey.


3 posted on 05/21/2012 10:05:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I love you for your perspicacity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Smoking marijuana is a criminal act therefore Trayvon Martin was a criminal.


4 posted on 05/21/2012 10:07:48 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Marijuana Does Not make you aggressive.

Unless it is laced with PCP. "Angel Dust" is a common adulterant of low grade marijuana, and can produce extremely violent episodes. So, if no one tested for PCP, we just don't know.

5 posted on 05/21/2012 10:09:06 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s be upset ‘cause Travon didn’t have his piece on him so ‘dat he could pop him first.


6 posted on 05/21/2012 10:09:44 AM PDT by jrg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Alcohol is also a downer. Marijuana is less a downer than an anti-anxiety drug.

Also, marijuana is illegal. Alcohol is not.

If they released Zimmerman’s toxicology report and it showed he had THC or booze in his system, this woman would be a stark-raving-mad lunatic saying he should be executed. Double-standards always exist for blacks and Democrats but never for whites.


7 posted on 05/21/2012 10:10:17 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Suppressed thought processes and reaction times should not be a factor? In a single-car crash in non-inclement weather where a substance was previously taken, that’s the ONLY factor. Why should this be any different?

Oh that’s right, because the Communists have an agenda with this story.


8 posted on 05/21/2012 10:11:08 AM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Garbage! No person has the right to beat up another regardless of the circumstances. Trayvon was a real punk and all he had to do is leave peaceful. Instead he decided to attack. If that happened to me I would have shot also.
9 posted on 05/21/2012 10:11:33 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Even if he was stoned out of his mind from smoking the best weed ever grown, he still wouldn’t have been in an aggressive state because weed is a downer and not an upper."

Ursula doesn't get around much. Weed isn't a downer. I believe weed is classed as an hallucinogen. I've crossed paths with soldiers and insurgents throughout Africa and Central America who, while high on weed, got off on wiping out entire villages, and hacking off people's limbs with machetes. Nothing more scary than being stopped at an African military checkpoint by a leering, red-eyed Congolese with an RPG, and joint between his teeth.
10 posted on 05/21/2012 10:13:26 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"After smoking any amount of weed, no one really wants to fight; they just want to eat and chill out."

The twinkie defense all over again?

11 posted on 05/21/2012 10:14:09 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ok, now imagine you were deceased. How would you feel

Apathetic and dead.

12 posted on 05/21/2012 10:14:21 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You want a real Laff Riot?

Run that article through the Ebonics Translator. It comes out the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

Unfortunately decorum prohibits me from posting the output here.

13 posted on 05/21/2012 10:14:20 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Ever since Trayvon Martin was gunned down by George Zimmerman just moments from his front door"

Well, that opening line tells me pretty much all I need to know about the author.

"Gunned down", huh? That's just what a white hispanic WOULD do.

Alfonso-Bedoya-Treasure-of-the-Sierra-Madre-1948
14 posted on 05/21/2012 10:14:50 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: PowderMonkey
I believe weed is classed as an hallucinogen.

Correct. And my goodness, you've had an interesting life!

15 posted on 05/21/2012 10:15:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I love you for your perspicacity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Everyday people of all ages, races, and social statuses fire up blunts, smoke joints, and hit bongs in hopes of easing their minds and obtaining that good feeling."

BWAAAAAHAHAhahahahaha! This is a great way to frame the argument, eh? Well his mind is 'eased' like a mofo now.

16 posted on 05/21/2012 10:18:11 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Today if you invent a better mousetrap, the government comes along with a better mouse. RReagan)
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To: jrg

>> She’s be upset...

You, Sir, are obviously not of the educated class. Referring to my textbook on Ebonics: “She be upset..” is correct.


17 posted on 05/21/2012 10:19:24 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once I was nearly run over by four pot-smokers in a car. They were trying to hit me.

THC makes you paranoid and murderous.


18 posted on 05/21/2012 10:20:59 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even if being high doesn’t make one (more) agressive, it could certainly make a person wander aimlessly which is exactly the behavior that raised Zimmerman’s suspicion in the first place. So actually, it was THE factor when you consider that the prosecution’s whole case is that Zimmerman should not have left his car.


19 posted on 05/21/2012 10:21:12 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Tax-chick
"Correct. And my goodness, you've had an interesting life!"

Yup, but it cost me a full head of hair, and two heart attacks so far. Dang...
20 posted on 05/21/2012 10:21:39 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: upsdriver; wtc911
Smoking marijuana is a criminal act therefore Trayvon Martin was a criminal.

uh oh! Don't tell that to wtc911: he contends that "trayvon did nothing illegal that night" and wants you to post proof of it.

21 posted on 05/21/2012 10:25:13 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (In the post-Zimmerman world, it may become prudent to carry a drop weapon if you CCW.)
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To: Tax-chick

Probably a teacher.


22 posted on 05/21/2012 10:26:08 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: PowderMonkey
Assassin comes from (Arabic: حشاشين Ḥashshāshīn, also Hashishin, Hassassin, or Hashashiyyin)
23 posted on 05/21/2012 10:26:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Was it just me or did anyone else watch that 7-11 surveillance video and think Trayvon was gonna stick the place up?


24 posted on 05/21/2012 10:27:37 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: PowderMonkey

I don’t think that’s marijuana. I think that’s a drug called Khat. I don’t think mj automatically makes you a peacenik though either.


25 posted on 05/21/2012 10:29:21 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: PowderMonkey
Doesn't the word hashish come from the same root as assassin?
26 posted on 05/21/2012 10:30:35 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: ichabod1

I thought that Khat was usually chewed.


27 posted on 05/21/2012 10:31:23 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: All

After watching Trayvon fumble with money and meander around the store getting I T and skillets, and then GZ stating that he thought that he was on “drugs or something” da ganja did play some part in this incident.

Not to mention the tweets where on of TM’s cronies is trying to buy weed from him...

Yep, he’s an angel alright./s


28 posted on 05/21/2012 10:31:57 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: wilco200

I was in a Quik Trip (similar to a 7-11) in my security police uniform on the way to work without my pistol when two guys decided to rob the cashier. I quickly ducked behind some chips, lest they think me armed. I was only a policeman at work, unlike most cops who are always on duty and we kept our weapons in a safe at work. They were so high they probably never even noticed me, but it gave me a scare.


29 posted on 05/21/2012 10:33:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Agreed, and the defense will say Jorge Zimmerman was walking back to his truck when Trayvon jumped him. Two witnesseswill testify that Trayvon was on top of Jorge beating his head into the concrete when Jorge fired the fatal shot. I wonder how many times a nice mellow doper can pound you head into the concrete before you defend yourself?
The defense will call the two reporters who doctored the 911 calls to make Jorge seen like an out of control racist. Its just me but Jorge will beat the state rap, and then Holder will immediately file Federal Civil rights charges against Jorge. Reason 1,346,984 to vote Obama’s butt out this November.


30 posted on 05/21/2012 10:34:23 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Santorum...the only Conservative in the race.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He had committed a crime by smoking dope.

THC levels in his bloodstream showed legal intoxication.

He was under the influence of an illegal drug.

These are the facts.


31 posted on 05/21/2012 10:36:17 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thank you for providing the 'alternative' view and giving us a chance to remark on it.

1. You can’t judge someone for something you have done or still do.

By 'you', she means OTHER PEOPLE, not herself...of course. Her whole article is about her 'judgement' of the public reaction.

2. Marijuana Does Not make you aggressive.

No, but living up to the GANGSTA CULTA does, and a brother gotta smoke.

3. People use drugs and alcohol use to paint imperfect pictures of people.

People use drugs and alcohol to paint a perfect picture of an imperfect world. If an alcohol or drug abuser is seeing everything through a haze, then how can they complain when told their 'view' of reality isn't 'perfect', and that maybe others who can see 'clearly' are just pointing out the truth?

4. Drug use of any type is irrelevant because Trayvon was minding his own business while was he was on his way home.

I am sure every drunk driver who has killed innocent pedestrians agrees with you, young lady.

The real (unasked) question here is... Had the juvenile delinquent (legally correct term, by the way) not had any trace of drugs in his system, would he still have sucker punched Zimmerman and then continued to beat him possibly to death?

Unfortunately for you, missy, the answer is YES.

32 posted on 05/21/2012 10:36:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Tax-chick
It’s a shame that someone who is capable of writing coherent sentences, as this author is, has nothing but nonsense to convey.

You are being very generous with attributing coherent sentences to the author. Take this beaut, for example:

...the point is that he was in his own zone minding his own business while he was on his way to his place of residence

Yikes.

"in his own zone" is the same thing as "minding his own business"... redundant.

"to his place of residence" = home. Wordy like a police report. And it wasn't his place of residence.

33 posted on 05/21/2012 10:37:42 AM PDT by kidd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I consider that totally disrespectful for anyone to slander anyone else’s name..."

When I hear phraseology like this, I know something really stupid is about to be said.

34 posted on 05/21/2012 10:38:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Must have been another case of.....
35 posted on 05/21/2012 10:38:54 AM PDT by jakerobins
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To: QBFimi
You, Sir, are obviously not of the educated class. Referring to my textbook on Ebonics: “She be upset..” is correct.

meh iz terribly sorry fo’ mah mistake. meh wrote that "on da fly". This one meh passed through da ebonics translator.
36 posted on 05/21/2012 10:41:25 AM PDT by jrg
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To: rarestia
Double-standards always exist for blacks and Democrats but never for whites.

That's not true. If you are a white Democrat in power, you get all kinds of mulligans.

37 posted on 05/21/2012 10:42:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My youngest son (23) has not even heard of or followed this case... when I explained it to him, and told him young treyvon went to the store for skittles and tea, he looked at me and said, “ Pot and speed, ehhhh..”.... even he knows what that term meant....


38 posted on 05/21/2012 10:42:17 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Regardless of what they say, I know in my heart that wasn’t the person he was.”

Well that closes the case right there! Her feelings, her magical intuition, her deep introspection of the human condition, and skillful generalization toxicology... what else is there to know?

Oh I don't know, perhaps Ursula would entertain and perceive some value in the revelation of FACTS? The judicial system has traditionally been the place where this could occur. She should check into it right after consulting her magic 8-ball (not a crack reference).

Wait a minute! Was this actually written by Debbie Whatshername Schultz? Something in the extreme level of idiocy, the incoherent utterings of a buffoon that seems her style...

39 posted on 05/21/2012 10:42:40 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Bacon wrapped in bacon, wrapped in bacon, wrapped in bacon...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He didn’t want any trouble, but trouble sure sniffed him out like a rabid bloodhound.

She's not trying to sway anyone's opinion now is she?

40 posted on 05/21/2012 10:43:20 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: PowderMonkey

Marijuana cannot be classified as a depressant because it increases the heart rate blood pressure and cardio pulmonary system.
I went to saint johns university in the ninety’s and they actually had a class called “drug use in society” as a part of the criminal justice program.
It was in this class that the professor explained that because of these unique characteristics marijuana has its own classification as a drug.

Now is that education money well spent or what! Heck, at least I remember at half a lifetime later .


41 posted on 05/21/2012 10:46:49 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: atomic_dog

THAT’s hilarious, a_d! LMAO! I wish we could post it here...


42 posted on 05/21/2012 10:47:30 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: rarestia
If they released Zimmerman’s toxicology report and it showed he had THC or booze in his system, this woman would be a stark-raving-mad lunatic saying he should be executed.

Likely true. But consider this.

If Martin had NO TRACE of any drugs in his system, then doesn't that just leave one conclusion?

He did it because he was a punk, a gangsta wannabe punk whose parents could no longer control him, and he thought he could get away with it. He was becoming a criminal in every way, and murder was just next.

43 posted on 05/21/2012 10:47:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: agere_contra

That’s not true.


44 posted on 05/21/2012 10:48:44 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guarantee you that if a trace of THC had been discovered in GZ this would be non-stop "news" on the Propaganda Networks.

My expectations for this situation are that 1) GZ becomes a very rich guy from multiple defamation suits, 2) Angela "Nifong" is prosecuted for malicious and false prosecution, 3) Crump is disbarred.

...but that's just me...

45 posted on 05/21/2012 10:49:01 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: ichabod1; kidd

It is excessively wordy - not great writing by any means - but still, there are subjects and verbs and all.

I agree with ichabod1, a teacher is a good bet.


46 posted on 05/21/2012 10:49:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I love you for your perspicacity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Regardless of what they say, I know in my heart that wasn’t the person he was.

Unfortunately your "heart" isn't admissible in a court of law.

47 posted on 05/21/2012 10:50:02 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It doesn’t matter if Trayvon was smoking weed or smoking crack, the point is that he was in his own zone minding his own business while he was on his way to his place of residence. He never took it upon himself to go mess with George Zimmerman, Zimmerman took it upon himself to mess with Trayvon. Trayvon could have been blowed out of his mind, but he wasn’t bothering anyone. If he was high at the time he was killed, he was just going home to finish watching the game and enjoy his high. He didn’t want any trouble, but trouble sure sniffed him out like a rabid bloodhound.

According to GZ, Trayvon ran from him when he approached, and he lost sight of him. Trayvon then doubled back and ambushed Zimmerman as he was walking back to his truck. If Trayvon just wanted to go home, he'd have done it.

48 posted on 05/21/2012 10:50:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: agere_contra
Once I was nearly run over by four pot-smokers in a car. They were trying to hit me.

Yeah. Usually it's not too hard to get out of the way of a car going 5 mph.

49 posted on 05/21/2012 10:50:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: PowderMonkey

I’ll take your work for that one... sir.


50 posted on 05/21/2012 10:51:52 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All liberals & most demoncraps think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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