Skip to comments.California-based Apple to build $210-million new manufacturing plant. In China
Posted on 05/21/2012 11:42:44 AM PDT by Mark Landsbaum
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Foxconn designs nothing, Dennis. They are a contract manufacturing company with massive capacity. The rest of your comment is just more of your BS, Dennis. Why not provide some PROOF! You have none.
We are STILL WAITING FOR YOUR 2008 PREDICTIONS ABOUT APPLE STOCK TO DROP LIKE A STONE FROM $100 A SHARE!
Apple has the PATENTS (29 more granted today, utility patents for real inventions in tech fields), the designs (many more design patents), and Apple drives the industry, not the other way around. Apple does not copy the Taiwanese and Korean makers' lead. If they did, the Taiwanese and Korean and Chinese would be the making top selling devices, not Apple. Apple would be making the copies, not defining the market.
Anyone who wants the government to regulate trade is calling for "big government." It can be nothing else.
There is nothing fair or Constitutional about the free trade system, or the free traitors who run it.
That is a puzzling assertion. Free trade is not a "system" [neither is free enterprise for that matter.] Both are merely the situation which exists when government does not interfere in the commercial trade of its citizens. What can possibly be unconstitutional or unfair about that?
Now, if you are talking about the phony-baloney, so-called "free trade" deals that the federal government negotiates with carve-outs, quotas, labor requirements, environmental requirements, etc.; I could agree. But just because it's called "free trade" doesn't make it so.
I am constantly baffled by people who claim to be conservative but who rail against the basic individual freedom to buy and sell property without government interference.
Good grief. What is truthful about it?
That sounds about right but the plant will be much larger than $210-million. More like a billion (my intuitive guess). Apple want to keep the numbers on the down low for tax and PR reasons. Foxconn does the real greasy work. Faggy Apple guys in Cupertino California are in charge of hype, advertising and distribution and getting the herd to vote for Obama
First sentence is self denying. He says "it sounds about right but will be much larger"? That's the first error on the face of it! Then he GUESSES with no evidence except a figure pulled out of the air or his posterior! That's the second guaranteed error. Dennis's financial accumen is storied on FreeRepublic. As are the untruths he told about packaging Apple debts and shorting them to make a mint... when there were and are none. Then he makes the assumption APPLE is making the amount to be spent on the plant "low for tax and PR reasons", both of which conclusions are false. First it is Foxconn making the investment, not Apple. Error three. Investments are DEDUCTIBLE for tax purposes and reduce taxable income. Error four. And companies TOUT their investment for PR purposes, not minimize, hide, or denigrate it, to impress their current investors and improve confidence and show their customers that they are ready to meet production goals and be able to fulfill contracts. Error five.
Next we have the ad homenym attacks on Apple. A classical error in logic. Error six. The Factual and dismissive errors of implying that Apple, the contracting party for the products that will eventually be made in the new plant (unmentioned by Dennis with his implied monolithic single operation company where Apple is, in Dennis's distorted world view, the subservient, and therefore, lesser, party), is merely "in charge of hype, advertising, and distribution" is completely false to fact, without evidence, or proof and begs the question, another logical fallacy. Error seven. Then Dennis, claim Apple's job is to get Obama reelected when that is totally false to facts and evidence, as many smaller companies, such as Microsoft, Google, HP, Facebook, Twitter, etc., have donated far more and done far more toward that effort than Apple Inc., and it's staff and employees ever have despite the myths that people like Dennisw keep pushing! The data are there for any one to find if they just bother to look. Apple has not even had a paid lobbyist in Washington. Error eight.
Oh I see. You are saying the communists won the cold war.
Never let America have the moral high ground, right? It’s bad for globalism and the expansion of communism.
Thanks for your input. I see right through you.
When I bought my new Ipad, I watched it as it shipped after manufacture from Chengdu China.
Works like a dream unlike most of the Obama supporters here in Kalifornia!
Then how do you explain the high tariffs we had prior to 1913? We also had a much smaller Federal Gov't prior to 1913 with no Federal income tax and no Federal Reserve (a private bank) Those tariffs went a long way towards funding that smaller Federal Gov't along with tobacco and alcohol taxes
This isn't Saudi Arabia where they take your passport and you're a virtual slave, this isn't a Florida orange grove where hovels are provided for illegals and food and supplies (the only ones around for miles) are so expensive the net income is about zero. It's all above the board with Chinese citizens who can earn enough to return home with a nest egg.
How do you go to a school board meeting, or a city council meeting when you work those hours? How do you raise your children if youre an absentee parent always at work?
I didn't say it was for everybody. OTOH, stressful 80+ hour weeks with poor living and working conditions remind me of something I had no problem doing when I was single -- the Army. And I even got to get shot at, too. How did I make it to school board meetings while I was in the field for half the year? Didn't have to, no family. How did I make it to a city council meeting when deployed overseas? I didn't. My neighbor is in the Army, often gone for 12 hour days, or 18-month tours. His kids manage with the absentee parent.
Oh, if you plan to get rid of the IRS and the income tax code, then the size of government would certainly be reduced and the economic drag caused by tariffs might well be offset.
Now, I am well aware of the Constitution's endorsement of tariffs. But it's important to remember that mercantilism was the predominant economic theory of the time [it took a few decades for Adam Smith's lessons to sink in] and it is clear that, despite their revenue-raising abilities, they were often used by Congress-critters to protect favored industries and constituents.
That tariffs are constitutional and were favored by the Founders does not make them economically sensible. But if you succeed in abolishing the income tax, I will certainly think hard about supporting your tariff proposal :)
You are not in the least bit interested in individual freedom or economics. I'm sure you think you know what your views on the Constitution are, but you can't explain them.
All you're interested in, apparently, is calling me a communist. I don't really see any point of continuing this.
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