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Need help with **another** problem (computers this time)
Self | 5/22/'12 | Zionist Conspirator

Posted on 05/22/2012 6:33:12 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

I sincerely apologize for taking up so much time from fellow FReepers, but now my computer is acting up. I'm hoping I want have to have the thing wiped clean and Windows reinstalled, but I am not a tecchie and have no idea what to do.

My problem is with one of those frequent and usually welcome security updates heralded by the little yellow shield with the exclamation mark. I got this earlier today and it told me three updates were ready to be installed. So I installed them.

Problem: the little yellow shield comes back on every time I log on the computer with the same three updates. Similarly, every time I log off it "installs" the same three updates. It does this over and over and over and over and OVER. How do I clear this out of my system? How do I install them for good and all or else make the shield and the installation-on-exit cease?

Please use non-technical English as much as possible.

Thank you.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: bug; glitch; vanity

1 posted on 05/22/2012 6:33:20 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Well, you can log onto Free Republic, so what else could you possibly want your computer to do???


2 posted on 05/22/2012 6:34:39 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Problem: the little yellow shield comes back on every time I log on the computer with the same three updates.

I had the same problem earlier today but when I shut the computer down it installed OK.
3 posted on 05/22/2012 6:35:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

please post the kb numbers, failures to update can be tricky, but do not wipe. some times odd things happen. first thing to do/try is run check disk, run defrag, delete all temp files(not folders). If you have a registry cleaner run that. feel free to hit me private, BTW post the os xp/vista/7.(32/64) Vista and 7 have some built in error fixing tools that could help.


4 posted on 05/22/2012 6:42:46 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Strange update, like one of those where each has to be installed separately, rather than all-in-one. In the past those usually came with manually downloading/installing the updates through Microsoft Update, unusual though with auto-update.


5 posted on 05/22/2012 6:43:25 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Same here. I rebooted after about the third or 4th time and it went away. (windows XP. 7 year old machine)


6 posted on 05/22/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Techies will need more information, specifically your operating system (Windows 7?) and the specific updates, but this is probably not a problem. Next time watch at the end of installation and see if it says: “Some updates could not be installed”. If so, look up the update that is not installing, such as “Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1” (that is a security update, and you should at least try a little harder to install it) and see what they do. You can try installing them from Microsoft.com directly or installing other updates from Microsoft.com to see if one of them allows your newer updates to install correctly. Do not re-install Windows to fix this unless you have extremely valuable information on your computer - just wait for Microsoft.com to get their act together if the updates won’t go in with a reasonable effort now.

Good luck!


7 posted on 05/22/2012 6:45:06 PM PDT by Pollster1 (“A boy becomes a man when a man is needed.” - John Steinbeck)
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To: MestaMachine; All

Thanks to MestaMachine, whose advice I followed and found to be good. I’m hoping I won’t see that thing again (though I haven’t rebooted since). I also hope that the updates really did download properly one of the times I logged off and it told me they were downloading. I don’t like to miss security updates.


8 posted on 05/22/2012 6:54:07 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I blame the cat.


9 posted on 05/22/2012 7:00:25 PM PDT by LouD (I stand with Scott Walker)
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To: Pollster1

I have a question also of you geeks.....I started up my laptop today and now the wireless don’t work. I believe it has been disabled but how and what do I do to get it enabled again? Please and thank you!


10 posted on 05/22/2012 7:00:54 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK

first to the thread, noticed that I had the issue as well, ran windows update, got no updates, still had 4 updates in the yellow shield. ran the updates in the shield, got failures, rebooted and bingo, gone. rerun updates from both the win update and shield and post if you still have issues.

On wireless, lots of potential issues, post system model, adapter, is there a problem icon in the lower right taskbar and or device manager. do you know what program manages the wireless connection?


11 posted on 05/22/2012 7:07:41 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I have the same thing right now, installed them once already, but I expect it to go away after a shut down.

I will then manually check for updates next time I start up, just to be sure.


12 posted on 05/22/2012 7:09:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ( The first American vote for a man who believes that he will become literally God, an actual deity.)
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To: MestaMachine; All
I have since logged of and rebooted, and it didn't reinstall on powering down or ask me to click on the shield icon when I logged back on. So hopefully that's the end of this particular problem. Thanks again to MestaMachine.

I just hope 1)they really download one of the times they said they were, and 2)I continue to receive updates in the future.

Thanks all.

13 posted on 05/22/2012 7:11:07 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: GrannyK

Do you have the ‘bars’ icon showing in the lower right system menu bar?

If so, click on it. It should show the option to ‘connect’ to your network.

Otherwise, click on the Open Network and Sharing and try to troubleshoot.


14 posted on 05/22/2012 7:16:15 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Go to the windows update website and install them from there.

You can download Belarc Advisor to see if your system is up to date.

http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html


15 posted on 05/22/2012 7:23:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: GrannyK

There could be a switch for wireless either on one of the function keys like F10 or could be a toggle on side or front. This has happened to me and I always think it’s worse than it is.


16 posted on 05/22/2012 7:38:09 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Zionist Conspirator

What are we, “Information Please?”

Well, please carry on. I am wanting to know as well.

;^)


17 posted on 05/22/2012 7:39:43 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Hit it with a sledge hammer and re-boot....


18 posted on 05/22/2012 7:54:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: GrannyK

On many computers there is a switch, on the side, which can be used to turn your wireless on or off.

I have two laptops that have that feature and each one had me up in arms until I noticed it.

Now when the things won’t catch wireless I check to ensure the switch is in the on position.


19 posted on 05/22/2012 7:57:18 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Pay a 12-year-old boy to install Linux. :-)


20 posted on 05/22/2012 9:07:57 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I have since logged of and rebooted, and it didn't reinstall on powering down or ask me to click on the shield icon when I logged back on. So hopefully that's the end of this particular problem. Thanks again to MestaMachine.

Next time you get an update from Microsoft, take the time to follow it through. Read the messages.

Don't just go and perform some other operation while the installation window is minimized. When it asks you to click on "Install" the message also includes a note that you can bring the installation window back up by clicking on the little yellow shield icon while the installation is taking place. Do that, and just sit and observe the what happens in the window while this is going on.

When the installation finishes, usually another window comes up informing you that you must restart the machine so that the changes made will become incorporated in the operating system.

This means you must, right then, allow the machine to be shut down, right back to the initial boot up phase. If you select the option not to do it right then, you need soon, after postponing, to close down your other programs, go to "Start", click on "Turn off computer" (NOT the "Log off" button), click on "Restart" or "Turn Off", and allow the machine to shut down.

As an observation, not a criticism, your predicament probably results from
(1) not having taken the time to learn how your operating system works; and
(2) not reading, understanding, and implementing the messages your operating system gives you.

If you want to escape the cost of technical attention your system needs, you must learn how to do some of it yourself. Otherwise, it would be thoughtful to remunerate others who eke out a little sustenance by fixing computers.

Asking posters on this site for advice will get you a mixed bag of suggestions, not all of them worthwhile.

Your best bet is to make friends with a PC technician in your area, who can at least talk you through the steps to solve a problem over the phone. If you can, pay him for the help. We all have to live.

Respectfully --

21 posted on 05/23/2012 2:19:00 AM PDT by imardmd1 (I may not always be free, but usually reasonable.)
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To: Vendome

Thank you all, it still says my wireless has been disabled....I just can’t get into a place to correct the problem. Lan or Wlan....whatever that is doesn’t give me the option. My switch on this HP is at the top of the keys next to the on/off switch. Right now it is an orange color & if I push on it, nothing happens. I think I accidentally turned it off when I was deleting some recent additions I had made. I was afraid I had removed the whole wireless option, is that possible?


22 posted on 05/23/2012 7:15:21 AM PDT by GrannyK
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To: imardmd1
Thank you for your advice.

In this particular update (which is unusual) there was no instruction or question about rebooting the computer at all. It simply said "updates have been installed." Nevertheless, it reinstalled each and every time I turned the computer back on (and when I turned it off).

There must have been some sort of glitch in this particular update. It has been taken care of now (I hope).

Thank you again.

23 posted on 05/23/2012 7:41:33 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: GrannyK

So here’s another trick but you have to be confident in your abilities to recover. However, at this point it’s probably moot.

I’ve had things like this happen and here is how I resolved it:

Go to “Device Manager” and open it.

Then look down to “Network Adapters”

Double click it and two adapters will show up. An Ethernet adapter and a Wireless Adapter.

Right Click on Wireless Adapter and here you will have some options:

Update Driver Software
Disable
Uninstall

1st I’d update the driver if possible. If you can’t don’t worry about it.

Next, I’d go ahead and disable the Wireless Adapter, then reboot.

Upon full reboot(go get a cup of coffee) I’d go back to Device Manager, look down at Network Adapters, On the Wireless Adapter Right Click, “Enable” and again reboot(get more coffee)

See if that works, if it doesn’t then you want uninstall the Wireless Network Adapter and reinstalling it as simple as going back to Device Manager, Right Click on Network Adapters, Scan for Hardware changes and eventually it will find your Wireless Adapter and you can reinstall it.

If none of those work, it’s beyond my capabilities to help as I would need to be in front of your computer to diagnose/repair it.


24 posted on 05/23/2012 8:18:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Vendome

This is the most understandable instructions I have ever seen. But you know me, I am not finding what you say is there. Under device manager, network adapters....the only thing I see is: Realtek PCle Family Controller & it says it is working properly. I did the search for hardware changes & did not find anything that way. Thanks for your help but I think I will have to ask my brother/in/law to go over this for me. Have a good week!


25 posted on 05/23/2012 2:01:26 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Looks like you’re not the only one.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_update/kb2633880-kb2518864-kb2572073-installed-but-not/e6ecef19-5551-4925-9d74-43813ba04d3a


26 posted on 05/23/2012 6:42:44 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Vendome

I am back, just to let you know today when I booted up my laptop, my wireless is working. It is a miracle!! I spent 2 days doing as you instructed & as you said, “go get a cup of coffee” etc. Finally worked as I had totally given up on my wireless. Thank you so much, you give great instructions!!


27 posted on 05/25/2012 7:32:49 AM PDT by GrannyK
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To: GrannyK

Sweet! I’m going to the bar tonight to celebrate!

LOL


28 posted on 05/25/2012 8:18:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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