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Update #26 Part 2 Trayvon Martin Shooting [Shortened]
The zonservative treehouse ^ | May 24 2012 | sundancecracker

Posted on 05/24/2012 4:23:20 AM PDT by Mechanicos

Edited on 05/24/2012 6:08:05 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

OK – so Trayvon is seeking a source for a powerful cough syrup, commonly used in his “culture” to make an intoxicating drink called “Lean” – also known as the infamous “purple drank/Purple Lean/Lean/Sizzurp.”

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“…Be very careful in trying to restrain the tripper, since she or he may perceive this as a threat, and will probably be mostly immune to pain...the tripper, like a cornered animal, could beat the living **** out of you without thinking twice. (!!) …”


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KEYWORDS: blackkk; cannabis; drugs; drugwar; florida; georgezimmerman; lean; marijuana; pot; thugculture; trayvon; trayvonmartin; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd; zimmerman
Non-MSM news investigation into why Martin attacked Zimmerman finds evidence he was abusing a street drug that can make one violent.
1 posted on 05/24/2012 4:23:29 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Mechanicos

Long read, but interesting thesis.


2 posted on 05/24/2012 4:34:42 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Mechanicos

Wooow...In that video of him at 7-11 he definately looks like he is on something, like he is confused and unsteady on his feet which BTW coincides with Zimmermans statement to the dispatcher that he appeared to be on drugs. But the medical examiner said all Traydmark had in his system was THC - marijuana which can make you act confused and *somewhat* unsteady, but no way in hell violent (from my *ahem* personal experience).

Is it possible this new drug was not tested for or does not show up? It is obvious as hell to me that Traydmark beat up on Zimmerman unless Zimmerman beat up himself which is ridiculous, but I always wondered how if he was just stoned? The anger gremlin just doesn’t surface when one is stoned. Weed can make you paranoid as hell, but in my experience NEVER bring you into a rage mindset like that. Plus if he was jus stoned why would he buy freakin Skittles and Iced-tea? Hell no, if he was truly stoned on weed he’d be buying hotdogs, potato chips, tacos with cheese stuff like that. Skittles and iced tea does not satisfy thy munchies.


3 posted on 05/24/2012 4:41:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Mechanicos

Wooow...In that video of him at 7-11 he definately looks like he is on something, like he is confused and unsteady on his feet which BTW coincides with Zimmermans statement to the dispatcher that he appeared to be on drugs. But the medical examiner said all Traydmark had in his system was THC - marijuana which can make you act confused and *somewhat* unsteady, but no way in hell violent (from my *ahem* personal experience).

Is it possible this new drug was not tested for or does not show up? It is obvious as hell to me that Traydmark beat up on Zimmerman unless Zimmerman beat up himself which is ridiculous, but I always wondered how if he was just stoned? The anger gremlin just doesn’t surface when one is stoned. Weed can make you paranoid as hell, but in my experience NEVER bring you into a rage mindset like that. Plus if he was jus stoned why would he buy freakin Skittles and Iced-tea? Hell no, if he was truly stoned on weed he’d be buying hotdogs, potato chips, tacos with cheese stuff like that. Skittles and iced tea does not satisfy thy munchies.


4 posted on 05/24/2012 4:41:41 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Yes, he is clearly high and it isn’t pot. I will also admit to personal experience. Looks like something a bit speedy to me.


5 posted on 05/24/2012 4:45:33 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

And note the prominent Neighborhood Watch sign at the entrance to the apartments/condos.


6 posted on 05/24/2012 5:01:54 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Mrs.Z

I hope defense counsel has all of this. It’ll never make the open press.


7 posted on 05/24/2012 5:08:42 AM PDT by rickyc
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To: Mycroft Holmes

Wow holy crap this guy is saying the medical examiner reported Traydmark had some liver damage which is consistent with DMX abuse and Skittles and watermelon Iced tea is used to make it. Can we expect the MSM to report this? Hellll no! They’re too busy trying to start a riot ala LA riots to focus on that. I hope to hell Zimmermans lawyer brings this all up in court.


8 posted on 05/24/2012 5:17:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Mechanicos
Be very careful in trying to restrain the tripper, since she or he may perceive this as a threat

combine this with "whitey best not be dissin' me" and you've got a huge problem.

9 posted on 05/24/2012 5:21:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Is it possible this new drug was not tested for or does not show up?

Might not be looked for in the toxicology tests.

10 posted on 05/24/2012 5:33:58 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Silentgypsy

Ping!


11 posted on 05/24/2012 5:37:56 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Vote NOT-ROMNEY ; Take it to the Convention and do it over!)
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To: Mechanicos

VERY interesting.

This guy is a better investigative reporter than those who (claim to) do it for a living!


12 posted on 05/24/2012 5:40:05 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Mechanicos

Great post, thanks. In my day we used to risk death by jumping our dirt bikes, jumping off the roof. Deep sea diving (breath hold) - These kids nowadays are such losers, you might as well shoot most of them before they become even more of a threat to civil society.

The world will never miss the departure of this punk ass little dope fiend - who looks just like Obama’s son - if he had one.


13 posted on 05/24/2012 5:40:24 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Mechanicos

So let’s see, pot leads to paranoia, and so can a lot of dextromethorphan which this budding little druggie could have been imbibing with the watermelon drink and skittles thinking it was another kind of codeine... I would quibble a bit with a question about why the dextromethorphan did not appear on the toxicology report if so. But it looks like he’d flirted with it in the past and was getting ready to do so again. And how could his Dee-Dee have missed what he was putting on his own Facebook?

Oh boy, I think Barack Obama will shortly wish he’d never waded into this. It will blow up messily in his face.


14 posted on 05/24/2012 5:58:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: trebb

Crude opioid tests would not be able to discern between this and the levorotatory opioids which derive from the opium poppy. More sophisticated ones would, and might miss it. At any rate hopefully someone at the Sanford coroner kept a blood sample for any future questions of this kind.

But maybe Tray was running dry of this stuff which is why the still intact Skittles and watermelon drink, in preparation to adding it to some Robitussin later. Nothing was said by the reporter about whether the psychotic break from large doses of dextromethorphan would last, or whether it goes away when the drug wears off. There are still a few gaps, but it suggests more trouble waits for Tray defenders.


15 posted on 05/24/2012 6:05:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: Mechanicos
Interesting, thanks. I haven't bought any Robitussin in a long time, I guess it isn't over the counter anymore.
16 posted on 05/24/2012 6:13:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Might depend on where you are. Ill Noise, for all the nannydom, still sells it off general pharmacy shelves. It seems to be in the default generic cough syrup whether or not you want it. I’m torn on this. Maybe it ought to go behind the counter, or need a doctor’s prescription to sell a lot of it, like for Sudafed today. An outright ban, no.


17 posted on 05/24/2012 6:18:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Let me ABOs run loose Lou, let me ABOs run loose! They are of much use Lou, so let me ABOs run loose)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“Traydmark”... I must steal that one, thank you Master Jedi!


18 posted on 05/24/2012 6:38:32 AM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The question was raised about a tox screen during the autopsy. There is one page of the autopsy that was redacted for the data dump.


19 posted on 05/24/2012 6:42:35 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Virtually every other "drug" known to man is a single, isolatable chemical compound. However, THC (tetro-hydra-cannabinol), marijuana's active ingredient, is a melange of between 200 and 400 different individual chemical compounds all mixed together in wildly varying percentages, depending upon the particular strain of "Pot" being tested.

Furthermore, each individual has his or her own unique personal pharmacology, which causes the same substance to cause varying reactions from one person to the next.

That Tyrone only bought Skittles and iced tea on this particular "munchie" quest could indicate nothing more than that was all he could afford at the time, based on how much money he had on him at that moment. Skittles are sweet, and iced tea would assuage the "dry-mouth" brought on by THC intoxication.

So, as to your assertion that T-Bone would have bought something else if he were merely high on Pot, your critical thinking is extremely short-sighted and contradicts facts in evidence.

To the question of whether a "stoner" would ever have the potential to feel aggressive or get in a fight, I have witnessed literally hundreds of brawls, from screamfests to actual fisticuffs, engaged in by individuals high on weed alone. THC is an inebriant, and when under its influence, you do things you simply wouldn't do if you were straight. It decreases our natural inhibitions, distorts our reality, and prolonged use almost uniformly brings about a sense of "paranoia."

In closing, allow me to suggest that this particular "Master Jedi" (snickering) is basing his conjecture more on seat-of-the-pants, off-the-cuff emotional projection, and far less (if at all) on a faithful analysis of the data and criteria available.

May THE FORCE forgive you.

20 posted on 05/24/2012 6:50:55 AM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: Gargantua

Obviously you never smoked weed.


21 posted on 05/24/2012 7:14:51 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Slings and Arrows

Is dextromethorphan a levorotatory opioid?


22 posted on 05/24/2012 7:27:39 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Did you check out the mom’s interview in the first part of this update? It’s nothing but a crock of hooey. She let it slip he sometimes didn’t get up in time and had to find something to eat. Guess she couldn’t be bothered to kick is lazy rear out of bed, fix him breakfast and make sure he got to school on time rather than let him play hooky and get suspended. Sorry, but he didn’t respect adults and there is history with him taking a swing at the bus driver. If he ate all the time, it might have been because he’s a teenager but it could also have been munchies from, oh I dunno, maybe that marijuana the autopsy report said was in his system and that he’d been suspended from school for (oh, why, my goodness, there’s another suspension - uh, hello, buy a clue, woman). Wow, she must be psychic claiming to know that Z didn’t identify himself as security. Sounds like she and the interviewers were coached.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/23/update-26-part-1-trayvon-martin-what-were-the-last-18-months-like-for-him/

I wonder if the coroner did a hair follicle tox to see if he had long term drug use? Probably not since that wasn’t on the radar at the time. Since he had two ingredients for “lean” then was there some DM cough syrup back at the apartment or was he out trying to make a connection which is what took him so long to get back to the apartment complex?


23 posted on 05/24/2012 7:43:14 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Gargantua

>>That Tyrone only bought Skittles and iced tea on this particular “munchie” quest could indicate nothing more than that was all he could afford at the time, based on how much money he had on him at that moment.<<

Trayvon had $40.15 on him plus 10 cents that was recovered later from his pocket.


24 posted on 05/24/2012 9:23:37 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Aunt Polgara

” Trayvon had $40.15 on him plus 10 cents that was recovered later from his pocket.”

45.00 dope sale?


25 posted on 05/24/2012 10:06:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Silentgypsy
Beyond my knowledge. This might help.
26 posted on 05/24/2012 10:55:23 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
“Hell no, if he was truly stoned on weed he’d be buying hotdogs, potato chips, tacos with cheese stuff like that. Skittles and iced tea does not satisfy thy munchies.”

================================ I understand that chocolate and wine go well together.

And, don't forget Doritos and little chocolate donuts..

So they say...

27 posted on 05/24/2012 1:20:57 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus are here and there and everywhere.)
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To: Mycroft Holmes
Pot laced with something else that drug screens don't pick up or that metabolizes quickly?

"Speedy" because of adrenalin...after all, he might have burgling on his mind or maybe an appointment with another thug he wasn't looking forward to meeting.

Or maybe a Slushy brain freeze...

How long did it take after Martin's demise before the autopsy?

It said other than the shooting wound, there were no other injuries, yet later it came out, that Martin had abrasions on his knuckles.

How didn't they pick up the knuckle abrasions in the autopsy?

28 posted on 05/24/2012 1:44:50 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus are here and there and everywhere.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Guess again, Noob.


29 posted on 05/24/2012 2:04:05 PM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: Mechanicos

Bump for interesting read.


30 posted on 05/24/2012 5:06:55 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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“That Tyrone only bought Skittles and iced tea”

Trayvon bought Watermelon “Fruit Juice Cocktail” NOT TEA!

It is used with cough medicine and candies, like Skittles, to make a powerful DRUG drink.

Are you really this clueless?

31 posted on 05/24/2012 10:15:50 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman
"Are you really this clueless?"

No way! I'm much more clueless than this!

Unless, of course, you axin me how to cook a fade of "Lean."

You douchebag.

;^\

32 posted on 05/24/2012 11:36:43 PM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: Slings and Arrows

Thank you. I remember racemic jazz vaguely; are those “cis” things something like that? Oh, never mind....


33 posted on 05/25/2012 8:02:08 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy

Cis and trans refer to stereoisomerism. Long story.


34 posted on 05/25/2012 8:40:26 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Vaguely familiar, thanks!
How much longer do you attend classes?


35 posted on 05/26/2012 7:23:02 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy

I’m done with my first year (THANK G-D!), and have two more years of classes and one more year of clinicals to go before I graduate.


36 posted on 05/26/2012 9:40:26 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Wonderful!


37 posted on 05/27/2012 10:00:19 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Mechanicos; Texas Fossil; rightwingintelligentsia; marktwain; Sub-Driver; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks, Mechanicos.

*PING* for potential BLOCKBUSTER background on Trayvon Martin, if it pans out.

Long but worth the read.

g_w

38 posted on 05/31/2012 7:55:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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