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Tokyo soil so contaminated with radiation it would be considered nuclear waste in US
Natural News ^ | 5/24/2012 | Ethan A. Huff

Posted on 05/24/2012 8:11:02 PM PDT by JohnKinAK

Radioactive fallout from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster continues to show up at dangerously high levels in the city of Tokyo, which is located roughly 200 miles from the actual disaster site. According to an analysis of five random soil samples recently taken by nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen, the soil around Tokyo is so contaminated with Fukushima radiation that it would be considered nuclear waste here in the U.S.

During a recent trip to Tokyo, Gundersen collected soil samples from a sidewalk, a children's playground, a rooftop, a patch of moss by the side of a road, and the lawn of a judicial building. After sending those samples in for testing, it was revealed that each one had high levels of radioactive cesium-134 (CS134) and cesium-137 (CS137), while three of the samples contained high levels of cobalt-60 (CO60). One of the samples also tested positive for uranium-235 (U235).

"[W]hen I was in Tokyo, I took some samples [...] and sent them to the lab," said Gundersen in a recent video report. "And the lab determined that all of them would be qualified as radioactive waste here in the United States and would have to be shipped to Texas to be disposed of."

You can view the complete report here: http://www.fairewinds.com

Despite the fact that radioactive plumes from Fukushima have largely drifted seaward based on wind patterns, a considerable amount of this radiation traveled southward towards Tokyo and elsewhere. The findings also confirm the reality that Fukushima radiation has likely had significant global spread as well, which confirms earlier reports of samples taken on the U.S. West Coast

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1 posted on 05/24/2012 8:11:09 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: JohnKinAK

Does this mean that the damage is more horrible than thought? Or does it mean that what nuclear waste standards in U.S are silly?


2 posted on 05/24/2012 8:21:35 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: JohnKinAK; Godzilla
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Joke!

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3 posted on 05/24/2012 8:23:24 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: KC_Lion

Oh no, there goes Tokyo go go Godzilla...


4 posted on 05/24/2012 8:24:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
My Favorite Song EVER!!!
5 posted on 05/24/2012 8:26:52 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: AndyTheBear
Does this mean that the damage is more horrible than thought? Or does it mean that what nuclear waste standards in U.S are silly?

It means that the author has an agenda: Anti-nuclear.

Fairewinds Energy Education

6 posted on 05/24/2012 8:26:59 PM PDT by CedarDave (Romney: Dresses and looks like a '50's character from "Mad Men" but no one's buying his shtick.)
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To: JohnKinAK

What do you think about the exports from there?


7 posted on 05/24/2012 8:29:52 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: SevenofNine
Won' be too Long before You Know Who shows up?

ROAR!!!!!!!

8 posted on 05/24/2012 8:30:52 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: JohnKinAK
Heads up if you are under the Jet Stream in the US (see article below). High radioactivity levels coming straight from Japan over the US right now. They are monitoring the fallout. If it is raining in these Jet Stream areas, stay out of the rain. It is contaminated. High radioactivity detected over Colorado last night. Should be over St. Louis tonight.

!MAXIMUM ALERT! Unusual Jet Stream Radioactivity Detected

9 posted on 05/24/2012 8:37:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: CedarDave

Cesium does not accumulate in the body and so its radioisotopes are not really an environmental hazard. I’d be less than alarmist over this report. I’d compare the U.S. vs Japanese health standards. If Tokyo was considered a health hazard, the U.S. Embassy would have already evacuated its staff and dependents and issued a travellers alert.


10 posted on 05/24/2012 8:37:55 PM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: JohnKinAK

And yet, Nakasaki and Hiroshima were repopulated in a fairly short amount of time after 1945.


11 posted on 05/24/2012 8:44:38 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SevenofNine

12 posted on 05/24/2012 8:46:35 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: justa-hairyape
High radioactivity levels coming straight from Japan over the US right now.

Um...no. There's a huge difference between detectible radiation, above background radiation, and high radiation levels. Just because someone is detecting higher than normal background radiation levels does not mean they are detecting 'High' radiation levels. It is often the case at some nuc plants that radiation alarms can be set off by changes in naturally occurring background radiation from outside the plant.

BTW...heavier radioactive elements, such as U-235, from Fukushima are just that...heavy...they are too heavy to make it up to the jet stream.

Also...anything that does make it that far up into the atmosphere will be so diluted and spread apart by the time it transits the ocean so as to pose almost no significant exposure threat downstream.

Calm down...take a deep breath...far more people will die of the stress caused by over-hype than will ever die of exposure to contamination from Fukushima.
13 posted on 05/24/2012 8:53:56 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: justa-hairyape
(see article below)

LOL! Really? Really? Are you serious?

14 posted on 05/24/2012 8:56:37 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: rottndog

Exactly


15 posted on 05/24/2012 8:57:00 PM PDT by ciaocotc
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To: Procyon

“If Tokyo was considered a health hazard, the U.S. Embassy would have already evacuated its staff and dependents and issued a travellers alert.”

Are you aware they sent military dependants back to the USA....a long time ago? Hmmm....


16 posted on 05/24/2012 8:57:51 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: CedarDave

Has any shown up in the US?


17 posted on 05/24/2012 8:59:54 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: toldyou

The main reason military dependents were evacuated was because of the immense destruction caused by the tsunami. There was an immediate crunch on supplies and support, and given the logistical problems with providing for basic needs, it was just smart to evacuate as many non-essential people as possible.


18 posted on 05/24/2012 9:06:26 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: rottndog

So we should just ignore all high readings ? That would be stupid considering we have 3 completely melted reactors and 4 spent fuel pools with problems located up stream from the readings.


19 posted on 05/24/2012 9:12:50 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Big Horn

At the link at #9, the alarmists found Cs-137 in beef at levels 2,000 times less than European limits for baby food. I’d be more worried about radiation from flying in an airplane at 36,000 feet for hours or that you get as a frequent flier from the new TSA full body scanners.


20 posted on 05/24/2012 9:15:56 PM PDT by CedarDave (Romney: Dresses and looks like a '50's character from "Mad Men" but no one's buying his shtick.)
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To: toldyou
Anyone who expects truth out of government, deserves what they get. The EPA is not even monitoring what is going on within the US. Their radiation network, at the time of the accident, had so many problems it was more or less irrelevant. They could not even determine what normal levels were before the accident, since a few of the sensors were down and some were being operated by volunteer workers.
21 posted on 05/24/2012 9:19:29 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

High readings compared to what? You can find radiation almost any where you look...just because you can detect something, does not make it a high radiation level.

And again, anything that would be blown up to the jet stream and across the ocean, thousands of miles, would be so dispersed as to represent virtually no risk of significant exposure downstream.


22 posted on 05/24/2012 9:20:21 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: CedarDave
That was not the main thrust of that report. They have identified Fukushima radiation products in US beef, and that is okay with you ?

So one must assume that you expected to see low levels of Fukushima products in US beef ?

23 posted on 05/24/2012 9:29:51 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: JohnKinAK; TigerLikesRooster

I have an idea - why don’t we give California to the Japanese - on the condition they clear out the illegals and assume California’s debt.

It’s a win-win.

The Japanese would make wonderful neighbors and friends - AND California won’t pull down the rest of the country into a deep depression...


24 posted on 05/24/2012 9:30:38 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: rottndog
It is from a radiation network that has been monitoring for many months. They know what false readings are. They have had them in the past. This one looks legit, which is why the POTR blog released the alert.
25 posted on 05/24/2012 9:32:24 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: AndyTheBear

The half-life of cobalt-60 is 5.3 years - not 300... Annoying, but livable...


26 posted on 05/24/2012 9:35:00 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: JohnKinAK

Another article from Natural News (Real News from Real People, Naturally). I don’t know about the fate of the doomed Japanese, but I now know seven foods that will cleanse my liver and a weird Chinese herb that will keep my hair from falling out and a bunch of other great things.


27 posted on 05/24/2012 9:35:12 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: rottndog

Yes, my cousin’s wife went home, because their apartment was damaged and no base housing was availible.


28 posted on 05/24/2012 10:02:36 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: JohnKinAK

Japan is so radioactive, their economy is so bad, and anyway their population should be immune to radiation poisoning, thanks to the two WWII nukes, that they should dedicate the islands to the storage of nuclear waste.

The could become what Nevada does not want to.


29 posted on 05/24/2012 10:19:00 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: JohnKinAK
According to an analysis of five random soil samples recently taken by nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen, the soil around Tokyo is so contaminated with Fukushima radiation that it would be considered nuclear waste here in the U.S.

Gee, you'd think people in Japan would be fleeing Tokyo in droves. Arnie Gundersen is a fairly well known nuclear alarmist and sensationalist, which makes him a "nuclear expert" as far as network news is concerned but lends no credibility to anything he says.
30 posted on 05/24/2012 10:30:31 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AndyTheBear
Or does it mean that what nuclear waste standards in U.S are silly?

That's what I was wondering. In California background radiation is considered an unacceptable risk. The Earth is in violation of statute law.

33 posted on 05/24/2012 11:47:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: nvscanman

Nice! I’m in Louisiana. Ping me if I ever need to be concerned about Fukushima fallout? K, thx! ;)


34 posted on 05/24/2012 11:54:08 PM PDT by Casie
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To: tdscpa

We do not want to send the Japanese more radioactive debris. They will have their hands full for decades. And, they are burning some radioactive debris.


35 posted on 05/24/2012 11:54:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: AndyTheBear

If Grand Central Station was a nuclear power one, it would be shut down.


37 posted on 05/25/2012 1:57:33 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Procyon
Thank goodness.

After reading this report, I thought for a moment there that I was dead. I guess I'm not after all. Not even glowing.

Really. The CRAP allowed on the internet these days, and even here at FR. It's sad.

38 posted on 05/25/2012 2:19:42 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (A great victory for Free People. The day Salvador Allende was toppled. Study history. Learn lessons.)
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To: SatinDoll
Yeah.
Like the reactors that could not possibly explode.
Or the reactors that could not possibly melt down.
Or the reactors that could not loose containment from the RPV.
Or the reactors that had achieved cold shutdown.
Now that was all bull crap with plenty more to follow no doubt. Latest news is from the WHO, nothing to worry about. Of course they fail to mention that Japan personally lobbied the WHO to demand it change its report simply because it might make Japan look bad.
39 posted on 05/25/2012 2:57:14 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: JohnKinAK
This is a stupid hoax.

Believe me, the Japanese popular press would be full of lurid accounts of any such widespread radiation. You should have seen the press pandemonium when there was actually a bit found in Tokyo last year. Think the "Daily Mail" on steroids.

Here's the latest WHO exposure summary chart (which, by the way, the Japanese government doesn't agree with, saying that the chart overstates the spread of radiation):

Image courtesy of Asahi.com

40 posted on 05/25/2012 3:23:20 AM PDT by snowsislander (Please, America, no more dog-eating Kenyan cokeheads in the Oval Office.)
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To: AndyTheBear

The latter.

Q: What is the half life of dirt?

A: Too low to put in an article like this without embarrasment, assuming you can find a girbilist who knows what the half life is.


41 posted on 05/25/2012 3:46:43 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Nuclear reactors do not explode. Yes, they can melt down - that is why American nuclear plants have containments.

As for the rest, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You ought to at least try getting some true knowledge.

The American Nuclear Society has a report on Fukushima at their website.

No doubt about it, this has been a horrifying event. But I’m going to emphasize something here: such catastrophic phenomena cannot be controlled, nor can we ever anticipate what the greatest extent such an incident will be when it does occurr.

We could be hit tomorrow with a large meteor in the northeastern reaches of the Pacific Ocean that would instantly light the clathrate hydrate (frozen methane) in the seabed, setting off volcanism, earthquakes and incredible destruction along the Pacific coast of North America. There is not a dam thing you or I can do to prevent that happening.

And, there is no such thing as a radiation plume.

When I read that last week on SHTF.com, {sigh} I knew it was published just to panic folks.

Here is an analogy that most understand: radioactive material is to a pile of dog shit what radiation is to the shit’s stench.

Atomically unstable elements, such as uranium and plutonium, lose energy by emitting ionizing particles - that is radiation.

Three things block radiation: time, distance, and shielding. Radioactive material has a half-life; the further one is from a radioactive sourse, the less radiation one is exposed to; and, material such as water, concrete and lead effectively shield radiation.

Radiation from the spent fuel at Fukushima is not going to fussily settle in Denver, CO, much less reach that far!

I live in southwest Washington State and weekly consume oysters from Willapa Bay, a shallow Pacific Ocean bay north of the Columbia River estuary. If there was any danger in eating those oysters, I wouldn’t indulge.

Stay safe but most of all, stay calm.


42 posted on 05/25/2012 4:05:48 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: justa-hairyape
It is from a radiation network that has been monitoring for many months. They know what false readings are. They have had them in the past. This one looks legit, which is why the POTR blog released the alert

It is one unverified, uncorroborated spike to about 85 CPM in Colorado at 4200 feet. The guy who wrote up the report even admits he has limited knowledge about isotopes and his suggestion that it came from Japan in the jet stream is pure speculation. It is much more likely to be a local phenomenon.

43 posted on 05/25/2012 4:06:39 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: JohnKinAK
Here's some actual news about searching for people who have been overexposed to radiation. It's an article about how municipalities in Fukushima as well as the prefectural government have on their own initiative gone out and bought portable whole body scanners (at $625,000 a pop) to drive into neighborhoods to check people's actual exposure levels:

  Fukushima municipalities forced to go it alone on radiation testing

Courtesy of Asahi.com

Here's a relevant quote from the article about radiation levels found in people in the hardest hit areas of Fukushima, and not distant Tokyo:

It released encouraging results on May 15 based on tests conducted on 9,502 people. While radioactive cesium was detected in 68.9 percent of adults (senior high school students or older) in October 2011, that figure had dropped to 9.9 percent in March this year.

The corresponding figures for children (junior high school students or younger) also fell from 32.3 percent to 0.8 percent.

Radiation levels dropped in all 67 children who showed high radiation levels in their first checkups and received follow-up tests. Levels also fell for 112 of 114 adults who showed high radiation levels in their first checkups. Two men, both aged 60 or older, showed a slight increase in their levels.

“Cesium has decreased for most of the people because it has passed out of the body in the form of urine or other substances. As for those whose radiation levels rose, there could be influences from food taken by them. It is necessary to continue to have checkups, including tests on food,” said Masaharu Tsubokura, a doctor at Minami-Soma City General Hospital, who was in charge of the WBC checkups for Minami-Soma residents.


44 posted on 05/25/2012 4:47:29 AM PDT by snowsislander (Please, America, no more dog-eating Kenyan cokeheads in the Oval Office.)
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To: SatinDoll
Nuclear reactors do not explode. Yes, they can melt down - that is why American nuclear plants have containments.

Well, nuclear reactors can explode. That's what happened at Chernobyl. But...it was not a 'nuclear' explosion...it was a steam explosion.
45 posted on 05/25/2012 9:20:25 AM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: AndyTheBear
... Or does it mean that what nuclear waste standards in U.S are silly?

Considering the possibility that someone's old watch with glow in the dark hands might be considered 'nuclear waste', I'd say your opinion is correct.

46 posted on 05/25/2012 9:36:31 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: rottndog

The steam lines at Chernobyl were operated beyond their design limits and ruptured. The force of the steam eruption battered the reactor and damaged it, and spent fuel was pulverized, carried up with the steam. It was the coolant, which was graphite, that caught fire and sent up smoke.


47 posted on 05/25/2012 11:49:43 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: SatinDoll

Chernobyl was a Light Water Reactor...it used water as coolant and moderator. The fire was the result of the lack of coolant...the fuel got so hot because there was no water to remove the heat...it burned.


48 posted on 05/25/2012 12:38:21 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: rottndog

My father is a nuclear engineer, and I read the report about the accident that he possessed.

There is a famous photo of Chernobyl where flames are seen in the heart of the reactor. That is graphite coolant burning.


49 posted on 05/25/2012 12:55:07 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: palmer
Now that is how you respond to the report. Thanks.

However, it is fairly clear that they have increasing problems in Japan. Just today Tepco finally admitted that building #4 is deforming. Walls are bulging. Anyone could have seen that, just by looking at the Tepco camera. They are also experiencing negative pressure somewhere within reactor #4 building. You sometimes see fog/smog being sucked into the building center.

50 posted on 05/25/2012 1:11:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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