Posted on 05/27/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
“…mountain of evidence ……Obama was not born in Hawaii is a fake. Did you hear that snarky media people? Nobody over ten believes this phony twerp was born in Hawaii.
Those who publicly say they believe Obama’s birth certificate and biography are real are simpletons who are hoping to have the liberal alligator eat someone else first.
Their cowardice doesn’t make them people bad people, but their snarky swipes at those of us who understand that two and two has always been four and will never change makes them despicable.
The truth is staring all of us in the face and those who pretend to “take the president at his word”, regardless of their political allegiance, are way passed annoying.
They are insulting to our intelligence. Listening to (or reading) “conservative” commentators talk about this issue demands a response.
I am sick of hearing these people talk endlessly about Obama’s questionable nativity, then offering new evidence of Obama’s fraudulent persona then patting themselves on the back with assurances “Well I personally believe the president was born in Hawaii but now let’s talk about what my next guest has uncovered.”
The Pontius Pilate act won’t work anymore.
Nevertheless, not content to hide behind slick double talk allowing them to deny there is anything to the charge against Obama, while using it for ratings, these people so often go a step further.
They talk as if those of us, who actually have enough sense to be able to pour water out of a boot, are toothless drooling halfwits.
If these phony “conservatives” really believe Obama was born in Hawaii they are guilty of a grave disservice to him and all of us.
Repeating what they “KNOW” to be a “terrible lie” is disgusting… almost treasonous……
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Liars, and Thieves! Every last one of em!
actually the whole hawaii thing is a big distraction......name one other US president who did not have 2 us citizens for parents...........hawaii is not the question.....not natural born is so obvious the media has chose for us all to focus on hawaii
Yes-—it is irrational to say that we are not “birthers” which means that we believe the Pathological Liar in Chief.
It is the irrational thinking of Marxists—that people who disparage “birthers” are saying that Bambi has nothing to hide and is “truthful” which is insane.
It is one or the other-—why do the Alinsky on people who probably are the most informed and logical—the Birthers are much more likely to be correct because of the millions spent on hiding the “truth”.
the eligibility issue is an annoyance to them and a threat to their power over the constitution which was designed to protect us from the scum in government at all levels
US government has evolved into a Leviathan monster from the meter maid to the POTUS, it is our enemy
The USA was supposed to be the land where “The King who wore no clothes” type of leadership was never supposed to happen. Guess what?... We now live in a land filled with millions of people who completely embrace the king who is wearing no clothes. I sure hope King no clothes gets his just desserts, as he did in the story.
That fact is that one cannot be an honest conservative, if they believe that Obama was born in Hawaii and do not work to tell they world the truth regarding Obama not being natural born citizen.
In fact, the conservative movement does not need those who are unwilling to state the truth in that Obama is a Kenyan born Muslim.
The bottom line is that we all know something is not right. The media and virtually every politician of all political stripes are traitors to this country and it’s people. They should be brought to Justus. But worse yet, maybe we are guilty of the same thing for not having the courage to do what must be done to preserve this country for the next generation.
Doesn’t matter where he was born. It is almost certain that he has committed fraud relating to his college / law school admission applications and possibly federal aid. We are supposed to be a nation of laws. Our political “leaders” of all stripes are reinforcing that the law no longer matters. It’s all a lie and a good number of we the people are sick of it.
Want to get your blood pressure roiling? Read this:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/obamas-mop-up-m.html
Exclusionary rhetoric like this is the mirror image of liberals calling anyone who doesn’t agree with Obama a racist. Calling people stupid can’t educate them and is counterproductive.
Coach, keep pounding away at the truth and act like it’s self-evident, but lose the “you are an idiot if you don’t agree” routine. Try “if you look at the evidence you will be convinced too” tack.
My dream is that Chris Christie...or someone like him on the national scene will get up on national tv and say...”why can’t we see Obama’s hard copy birth certificate? Why can’t we see his college apps? Why can’t we know who he dated in college (of whatever gender)? Why is his life such a closed book?”
Call out the media!!! Just as they protected John Edwards, they now protect Barry.
Huh? Explain please
The problem I see it is too many people are so weak minded and lacking that they will die believing Socialism, Communism, Marxism and even Islam will answer their prayers, buy their bling, feed their tummies and take care of their families.
Too many people have lost sight of what America was supposed to be.
Too many people basically are traitors for supporting people like pelosi and Obama. They really can be called traitors.
These ‘conservatives’, as you call them, are as deep in Obama’s pocket as the rest of the MSM.
Notice that all of our leading ‘conservatives’, like O’Reilly, Rush and Hannity shy away of saying anything on the subject.
...”why can’t we see Obama’s hard copy birth certificate?
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Ask the fox, Bill O’Reilly — he has seen it.
And he is looking out for all of us, so he says.
O’Reilly made a trade with the Obama campaign in ‘08...access for continuing lies about The One’s early life.
The White House is terrified someone in the national media will ask the question...”why can’t we see the President’s hard copy birth certificate or his college apps and grades”?
If this question comes up and millions hear it, the fake Obama resume will collapse. He either was born in Kenya or he claimed to have been to get into top tier colleges. Most who know about the situation have figured this out.
If I were on the GOP national committee I’d be asking about this every day. These folks are gutless.
Chester Arthur
I fall in the third category. I believe the LFBC was a forgery and I believe the Obama/Hawaii resistance to disclosing the facts is very suspicious. However, it is stupid to say that someone who does not take position (a) is a fool or a coward. The agnostic position is a reasonable one.
Chester A. Arthur - His father was still an Irish citizen at the time of his birth. The first presidential candidate of the Republican Party, John C. Fremont, had a French father.
actually the whole hawaii thing is a big distraction
The whole "natural born means two citizen parents" thing is probably also a big distraction because it is clear that that was not the definition of natural born under English common law.
John McCain was born on a foreign military base, but both of his parents were US citizens, making him eligible for the US Presidency.
Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was indisputably NOT a US citizen, making Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. ineligible for the US Presidency, even if he were born on the steps of the US capitol building.
Two posts above:
Post One: “The whole “natural born means two citizen parents” thing is probably also a big distraction because it is clear that that was not the definition of natural born under English common law.”
Post Two: “..Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was indisputably NOT a US citizen, making Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. ineligible for the US Presidency, even if he were born on the steps of the US capitol building.”
Both posters take a position on the NBC question, and the issue seems to be “clear” to both, yet both positions cannot be true. On each and every thread about this matter over the past couple of years, you will likely find both positions taken. Seems that nothing said or written will change the mind of folks taking one position or the other.
Anyone who says this issue is “settled” is simply not being honest with himself/herself. It is not settled...and won’t be in the near future, imo.
Expecting all or even most conservative leaders, bloggers and pundits to be of like mind on this NBC matter is simply wishful thinking and is not rooted in the world of reality.
I wish it were not so, but there I go again, engaging in wishful thinking.
Myths daddy was born in Mexico.
Coincidence? What are the odds. The GOP, against an ineligible candidate runs two ineligible candidates?
Can you smell the fix yet?
It is settled in my mind, just as it is settled in many minds here. What you want is for it to be consensus, a completely different notion. Consensus however, is not truth. I know what the truth is, whether or not others will work as I have done to obtain that truth is not my concern, and out of my control.
Are not enough of us willing to step up and run? Do having parents who had to fight to get hear instill something* in their children that makes them want to lead this nation?
* That could be good in the case of conservative anti-communist children, or horribly bad in the case of a Marxist loving family.
Was it Dale Carnegie who said that you’ll never persuade anyone by telling him he’s wrong?!
John Sidney McCain III was born on August 29, 1936, at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, the second of three children born to naval officer John S. McCain Jr. and his wife, Roberta. At the time of his birth, the McCain family was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone, under American control.
Translation: He was born practically on US Soil
Myths daddy was born in Mexico.
And so what. George Romney was born to American parents who lived during his birth in Mormon colonies in Mexico. George Romney did not become a Mexican citizen, just because he was born there. Unlike the US Mexico does not give citizenship to children of foreign nationals, just because they are born there.
Romney himself was born in Detroit, Michigan and both are in the US.
You really are ignorant and embarrassing
Shouldn't that be practically ignorant and embarrassing?
Corn flakes a bit of an off yellow this AM?
Apparently you don't notice the coincidence of conflicts in the last and next s Election.
Sew buttons.
A few facets of this claim immediately jump out as being far-fetched: first, that a sitting
I changed my mind.
According to Snopes, if Ubama was not born in the US, he is not eligible.
Even Ubama has said he was not born in the US.
Yeah because of lunatics like you that arrogant lazy, lying pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave got elected and because of your ignorance he might get reelected
Twice???
What's buggin ya K?
Juan was berfed in a Panamanian Hospital on Panamanian soil. Practically on US soil, but not quite.
Myth's dad was born out of country also.
I made no factual errors.
I didn't tell anyone to not vote ABO.
I just want to remind you to not expect the GOP to be the Calvary and ride to our rescue, cause they aint gonna do it!
Wasn't he born on a US Naval station in the Panama Canal which at that time was in American possession until the peanut farmer from Georgia gave it away?
HMS Surprise, I’m not looking for consensus on the definition of natural born citizen, as envisioned by our framers. (I personally believe NBC requires a candidate to have been born in the USA to two citizen parents, but so what?).
My point was that it is not settled in a way that would enable a Secretary of State in any state in this country to deny eligibility to be placed on a ballot without it being contested. If one would do so, then a lawsuit would ensue and a court of law (eventually the USSC) would settle the matter.
Until then, it is not settled other than in the minds of some of us, and you can see where that has gotten us.
With regard to his birth, his upbringing, his travels and his studies it is clear he is hiding facts which, he and his people have decided, don't serve the furtherance of his aims.
I don't know where, when, who, how or why but it is plain as the nose on his face his momma (I suspect with the aid and teaching of KGB handlers), raised a Marxist. It is known that the Soviet era KGB sought to influence American educators, youth, and media during those years with the aim of integrating Marxism into mainstream American society and the power structure, and many examples of success in those endeavors is evident today. It is my belief that the untold details about the present occupant's past would betray something of the that sort.
I'm not saying he was raised with the idea from the beginning that he was to become a Manchurian candidate in the Presidency, but the commies who influenced these people certainly hoped America would elect one of them some day.
McCarthy was right.
Actually, it seems pretty clear to quite a few conservatives that both the born in Kenya claims and the other ineligible claims are just conspiracy theories without a lot to back them up. But since you can’t say that here without being personally attacked, I think most freepers who believe that (myself included) have given up.
Anyone including “conservative commenters” not a “birther” is a fool a liar a coward or all three
Just Chester Alan Arthur and Barack Obozo (or whatever his name is). That's it; both NOT eligible.
But then, neither is Romney, Santorum, Rubio, or Jindal.
Both Democrats and RINOs find the US Constitution an obstacle to something else they wish to create, and they work together to chip away at it from various angles.
The describes ABC's Jake Tapper. From his recent article :
Trump revived the false claims about Obama’s birthplace on Thursday, citing a discredited story about a literary agency that mistakenly listed that Obama was born in Kenya in a recently discovered catalog of clients that included the president.
Discredited story ? The only thing discredited about the story was the agents claim that it was a fact checking error and that she mistakenly typed in Kenya instead of Hawaii ( authors with that same agency have said they provided their own bios and proof read them before it went to print ).
That idiot Tapper should do some fact checking himself. (Though he probably did and knows the truth. )
The describes = This describes
The story was “discredited” but it wasn’t disproved or debunked. All this means is that apologists criticized the story. The fact remains that it’s one of several sources that say Obama was born in Kenya.
If Obama was born in Kenya, how come he’s never won a marathon?
The Obama logo represents Obamas a-hole with the tongue of an MSM reporter diving into it.
LOL !!! Now I can’t look at that logo without seeing that :-)
Mitt Romney's father George Romney was indeed born in Mexico but to two US citizens so he was a US citizen by birth. Yes, there is some question about whether George qualified as a natural born citizen but there really isn't about Mitt, being born to two US citizens within the US. As for John McClain, he was born to to two US citizens stationed abroad in military service to the country and as such would be considered to be natural born.
I think much more likely is that the deal by the Republican power structure to overlook Obama's ineligibility was to establish precedent for Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindall, and Nikki Haley to claim natural born citizen status should the opportunity arise.
There are Obama supporters who mock anyone who has concerns about Obama’s eligibility, by calling us birthers and worse. Then there are Obama supporters who acknowledge that there are some “irregularities”, but that we should all just ignore them because it is just a game that Obama is playing and that it is a loser politically.
Then you have the more insidious Obama supporters who pretend to be concerned about Obama’s eligibility but then make outrageous false statements. Many of the people who claim Romney is ineligible fall into this category. (Romney was born in this country and both his parents were citizens.) These posts are just designed to make it look like those of us with concerns are nuts.
There are numerous other distracting statements and arguments that are posted. Many are seeded by Obama supporters. Obama’s eligibility problems stand on their own. Chester Arthur's eligibility does not matter. Mitt Romney's eligibility does not matter. Whether Obama looks like his supposed maternal grandfather does not matter. There are numerous other arguments that we have had on these threads that really don't matter. It doesn't really even matter whether or not Obama supporters have successfully marginalized this issue. The arguments have largely been started by Obama supporters to keep us off balance.
What matters is that Obama has made extraordinary efforts to keep his records hidden... all of his records. What matters is that Obama has released through his subordinates... documents that a law enforcement agency has determined are poorly done fraudulent forgeries. What matters is that Obama himself through his literary agent claimed for 16 years to have been born in Kenya. What matters is that the official Obama life narrative has been proved repeatedly to be completely false. Where there is smoke there is fire; I have never seen so much smoke. What matters most of all is that once the United States of America ceases to be a nation which follows our own laws... we no longer will hold the moral high ground and we will sink into our own pit of mediocrity.
Obama is a pathological liar. He wouldn't have gone to the trouble of having his records hidden and scrubbed; he wouldn't have gone to the trouble of creating these forgeries if he was not concerned about his own eligibility. This issue needs to be thoroughly examined regardless of the consequences.
I do admit that if and when the country finally wakes up; when it finally is demonstrated that Obama is and always was ineligible... the ramifications are going to be almost endless. The illegal usurper has caused irreparable harm to the future of our children, our grandchildren, and even their grandchildren. But if enough of the people in this country still have the gumption to stand up and do for themselves then our nation will survive. Let's hope that they do.
You’d better hope your state isn’t just up and given away by some future President, if you believe territory under the sole jurisdiction of the United States can be unilaterally ceded by one branch of government in this manner.
The Canal Zone was leased. It was not sovereign territory under the sole jurisdiction of the United States. That’s why it could be ceded and was ceded.
It's never easy having a half-foreign America-hater in the Oval Office, but on Memorial Day it's hardest of all.
Great post, thank you!
Exactly.
Consider who did the “discrediting”....
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