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New York statute will ban internet posting of anonymous comments
Coach is Right ^ | 5/29/2012 | Doug Book

Posted on 05/29/2012 10:02:49 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Two New York legislators have taken a page from the playbook of aspiring internet regulator Joe Lieberman by sponsoring a bill which would make the posting of anonymous comments illegal. The bill written by Republican State Senators Dean Murray and Thomas O’Mara states:

“A web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his…name to the post and confirms that his…IP address, legal name and home address are accurate. All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address for such removal requests clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted.” (1)

The stated purpose of the Act is“…to amend the civil rights law, in relation to protecting a person’s right to know who is...

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: anonymousposting; constitution; freespeech; internet; nysenate; supremecourt
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1 posted on 05/29/2012 10:02:59 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Weiner blowback?


2 posted on 05/29/2012 10:06:48 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

So free republic would be illegal in New York?

Signed
Daisy Q. Duck


3 posted on 05/29/2012 10:06:48 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Republican State Senators Dean Murray and Thomas O’Mara”

Terrible. These “Republicans” need to be tarred and feathered right out of office.


4 posted on 05/29/2012 10:07:01 AM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: gundog

Weiner blowback?


Ew.


5 posted on 05/29/2012 10:07:45 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Big Brother” wants to know who I am.


6 posted on 05/29/2012 10:08:01 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Oldpuppymax
...unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his…name to the post and confirms that his…IP address, legal name and home address are accurate.

So is there any penalty for lying?! Yeah that's correct. My name REALLY is Nunya Bisness and my address is #1 Penthouse, Trump Towers, New York, NY and my IP really is from my internet provider out of Vanuatu, I never bothered to change it when I moved...

7 posted on 05/29/2012 10:08:36 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Oldpuppymax

How would they apply this rule to websites hosted overseas? Or in other states?


8 posted on 05/29/2012 10:09:52 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Oldpuppymax

Hope that includes anonymous sources in news articles as well.


9 posted on 05/29/2012 10:10:56 AM PDT by loucon
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To: Oldpuppymax

During the American Revolution, did the newspapers that were circulated use the real name of the writers?

How many pen names did Benjamin Franklin have?

Did you know that, as a 16-year-old, Ben Franklin wrote letters to the The New-England Courant posing as a middle-aged widow named Silence Dogood?


10 posted on 05/29/2012 10:11:10 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If this statute existed in the 18th century Benjamin Franklin would be in trouble since he frequently wrote under pseudonyms; as did Madison, Hamilton, and Jay when they wrote the Federalist Papers under the name “Publius.”


11 posted on 05/29/2012 10:11:20 AM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Such as articles authored by ‘Publius’ ?


12 posted on 05/29/2012 10:12:26 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: loucon
Hope that includes anonymous sources in news articles as well.

excellent point

13 posted on 05/29/2012 10:12:50 AM PDT by Troublemaker
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To: Oldpuppymax
"New York statute will ban internet posting of anonymous comments"

New York statute will WOULD [If passed] ban internet posting of anonymous comments

Come on, "Coach", let's not let our command of our language slip to that of DU or MTV.

14 posted on 05/29/2012 10:13:18 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Yaelle
You just don't appreciate what a good think it would have been if Ben Franklin hadn't have been able to hide under the pseudonym of Silence Dogood. < / sarcasm >
15 posted on 05/29/2012 10:13:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Oldpuppymax
All web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address for such removal requests

FR does not have this problem:

"Comment removed by moderator."

Fixed.

16 posted on 05/29/2012 10:14:03 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I am sure that, in the spirit of consistency, they will amend this bill to include a prohibition on voice votes(i.e.anonymous votes) in the legislature

Sure


17 posted on 05/29/2012 10:16:32 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: Nachum

FYI


18 posted on 05/29/2012 10:17:01 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Oldpuppymax

if this law had been in effect 230 years ago, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Jay “…would have been forced to disclose their real names…” on the Federalist Papers, perhaps preventing the works of “Publius” being written.


19 posted on 05/29/2012 10:19:11 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Northeast Republicans... Misunderstanding the Constitution since 1946...


20 posted on 05/29/2012 10:20:17 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Add another lawsuit to the SCOTUS docket. Are they going to also pass a law that you must state your full name and Social Security number before talking to someone on the street? If the government would stop threatening to sodomize us perhaps we wouldn’t see a need to post anonymously. Time to go feed my two beloved war horses, Nelson and Blueskin.


21 posted on 05/29/2012 10:21:28 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: ConservativeTeen

Tar and feather someone from either party for this garbage. I’m so damn glad to have left NY...


22 posted on 05/29/2012 10:22:01 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Can we cut the BS and just say it like it is?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Not sure what is to be accomplished from legislation like this, but I know that if it passes, I will be spending much less time at work (NYC) on the internet.


23 posted on 05/29/2012 10:23:01 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: gundog
They can have my anonymous name when they pry my cold dead fingers from my keyboard.

Sincerely,
Guns Equalfreedom

24 posted on 05/29/2012 10:23:57 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

You’ll need an “ID” to post on the internet but voting...well, anonymity is OK there?


25 posted on 05/29/2012 10:24:28 AM PDT by n230099 ("When no one knows who is armed...everyone is.")
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To: Oldpuppymax

This would have made the Federalist Papers illegal. “Publius” was anonymous at the time.


26 posted on 05/29/2012 10:24:57 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: P-Marlowe; Oldpuppymax
Free speech and first amendment case.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It does not say "free speech only by the fully identified and certified".

And I could give a rip if anyone, politician or otherwise, can come up with some kind of rationale for his/her desire to abridge speech.

The freedom is clear.

27 posted on 05/29/2012 10:26:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of Our Troops Pray they Win every Fight!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Okay. Let’s also include the same information about the person (or persons) requesting that the anonymous poster’s personal information be published along with their justification for the request.

Oh, and let’s also make the requester responsible for any counteractions (bullying, etc.) that occur to the anonymous poster after the publication of the information.

I mean what’s good for the goose should be good for the gander, too. N’est pas?


28 posted on 05/29/2012 10:29:21 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined Effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge Tomorrow on the anvil of Today.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The “liberals” dont like anyone mocking their PC Dogma and getting away with it.They can enforce their PC Dogma on certain jobs but the freedom of speech on the internet galls them greatly.

People who post “politically incorrect” opinions on their face book accounts, where they can be identified , can be fired from their jobs, like the South Florida Fireman, who gave his opinion on Trayvon Martin.

This is just an effort to squelch political speech through out the internet that the “liberal” powers that be dont approve of.


29 posted on 05/29/2012 10:29:31 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: DesertRhino

The authors used the pseudonym “Publius”, in honor of Roman consul Publius Valerius Publicola.

The Federalist Papers are a series of 85 articles or essays promoting the ratification of the United States Constitution written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay. Seventy-seven of the essays were published serially in The Independent Journal and The New York Packet between October 1787 and August 1788.

At the time of publication, the authorship of the articles was a closely guarded secret, though astute observers guessed that Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay were the likely authors.

You asked...


30 posted on 05/29/2012 10:29:45 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: apillar
"...unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his…name to the post and confirms that his…IP address, legal name and home address are accurate."

Terrific. Given Obama's oversight of Al-Qaeda oriented Drone hit list, how long before we can anticipate the NY effort to confirm legal identities/IP & home addresses & the current occupant of the oval office personally taking control of a list to target domestic drones with this info?

Also, OT, consider Breaking: Domestic Terrorist Kimberlin Has Conservative Blogger Arrested

GatewayPundit's Jim Hoft adds:

The World Is Upside-Down Conservative blogger Aaron Walker was arrested today after the Maryland hearing on the Kimberlin case.

Or as Ann Barnhardt frequently points out. . ."The Rule of Law is DEAD".

31 posted on 05/29/2012 10:34:30 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Oldpuppymax

To idiot liberals:

Anonymous posters = Bad
Anonymous POTUS = Good

I miss that little Weiner. Those were some great threads!


32 posted on 05/29/2012 10:35:22 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Would Lenin have approved of this?


33 posted on 05/29/2012 10:36:16 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

So asking someone for ID when they vote is unConstitutional discrimination.

But posting a snarky comment and we want to know who you are!

Sadly this will probably pass and the guy pushing it will probably be re-elected.

Another day in Obamaland.


34 posted on 05/29/2012 10:46:19 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: gundog
Would Lenin have approved of this?

It is for certain Yoko Ono wouldn't have.

35 posted on 05/29/2012 10:49:51 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
The stated purpose of the Act is“…to amend the civil rights law, in relation to protecting a person’s right to know who is...

The true purpose of the act is to suppress political dissent by having the ability to retaliate against the dissenters.

36 posted on 05/29/2012 10:51:36 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: OldNavyVet

Big Brother knows who you and I and all the rest of us are and always has. What they want to do is expose everyone to retaliation from every nutcase out there who doesn’t like what we’re saying. Big Brother doesn’t need to get its hands dirty when ACORN, MoveOn.org and Media Matters zombies can take care of it.


37 posted on 05/29/2012 10:53:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If this new law is approved, will we then also have the LEGAL RIGHT to proclaim that we MISSPOKE, absolving us of any and all legal claims, like JACKSON, SHARPTON, the MSM, and all our politicians have?


38 posted on 05/29/2012 11:04:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Oldpuppymax

So web sites have to have more verification than voter registrars?


39 posted on 05/29/2012 11:08:32 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: n230099
You’ll need an “ID” to post on the internet but voting...well, anonymity is OK there?

Not only that, but if you vote for a (D) candidate, you are allowed to vote multiple times.

40 posted on 05/29/2012 11:11:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Yaelle
Ew.

Yah... now I need this.


41 posted on 05/29/2012 11:13:22 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Oldpuppymax; Yaelle; rmlew; dennisw; Sacajaweau; Red Steel; David; AJFavish; Tenth Amendment; ...
Not mentioned in the article is the problem of state jurisdiction. Can a webmaster or a poster be subject to a New York statute if one or both is outside the boundaries of the state? Likewise, can out of state "requesters" avail themselves of the "right" granted them by this state statute?

How can interstate or international communications be subject to state regulation? Something seems amiss here, not that I'd want some law like this passed on the federal level either.

I'd appreciate comments on this from the constitutionalists out there.

42 posted on 05/29/2012 11:18:59 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Oldpuppymax

OK. Pin the tail on the donkey time.

Breaking: Domestic Terrorist Kimberlin Has Conservative Blogger Arrested
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2889107/posts


43 posted on 05/29/2012 11:31:27 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Maybe it would still be illegal to post anything from the Federalist Papers because they were written under pseudonyms, even if written 230 years ago.


44 posted on 05/29/2012 11:34:10 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Yaelle

Wait, you didn’t give us your address and I think it is only fair that you give out your phone number too.


45 posted on 05/29/2012 11:45:25 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Oldpuppymax

I don’t know much about the workings of the internet, but couldn’t a website owner block his site from being viewed by an IP address located in New York?


46 posted on 05/29/2012 11:57:36 AM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: xzins

Just to emphasize your point - There was this ruling in “United States District Court for the District of Maryland”

http://thefire.org/article/13957.html

So it’s already been through the federal courts once at least. Why do lawmakers NOT PAY attention to those 10 little first amendments to the Constitution?


47 posted on 05/29/2012 12:04:02 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Oldpuppymax

Yet another reason to limit the state legislature to meeting 120 days once every two years.

Keeps the legislators from hanging around long enough to think up this type of horse puckey, and even if they do, they do not have time to pass silly bills before the session ends.

(Yet one more reason Texas’s economy is better than that of New York’s.)


48 posted on 05/29/2012 12:11:40 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: gundog

It’s funny when somebody shows ignorance without even realizing it...like this. Do they have *any idea* about what they’re trying to propose? No. They don’t understand the technology or the problems that they’ll face in implementing or enforcing it.

Pete Sake
Apt. 666 - Hell Creek Ranch
Hell, MI 48169


49 posted on 05/29/2012 12:17:31 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: tbw2

I would say they are expecting other states to do similar laws and at some point offer reciprocation. They know the technology is coming where they will be able to enforce such a law so they are just getting a head start. Pretty soon people are going to be using the internet mostly with smart phones and tablets...with chip IDs and GPS tags and all sorts of ways to track down the user. Photos already have ID markers embedded in them so that you can tell what smart phone took the pic and where and when. They will be doing the same with text too, I suspect.


50 posted on 05/29/2012 1:06:58 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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