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Florida Defies Holder, Rejects DOJ Demands to Stop Purging Non-Citizens from Voter Rolls
Stand With Arizona ^ | 06-04-2012 | John Hill

Posted on 06/03/2012 7:27:19 PM PDT by montag813

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To: montag813

BTT!


81 posted on 06/04/2012 8:30:43 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

I was speaking with some long time acquaintances on a chat site last weekend (Americans, Canadians, and Europeans).. 1 of the Americans started complaining about the BAD TEA partiers.. and how they want to mess up the economy..

I asked him, “Do you even KNOW what T.E.A. stands for?”
His reply, “No, is it supposed to mean something?”
My reply, “Yes... Taxed Enough Already.” .. I went on to quote, “No taxation without representation”..

He actually agreed.

Why am I NOT surprised that so many people don’t even know what T.E.A stands for? :p


82 posted on 06/04/2012 8:42:41 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: FatherofFive

Well, there is one area where absentee votes ARE the MOST important (no offense to those here that must absentee vote)... and that is the military overseas... But, of course, those are the only ones that are usually left out :/


83 posted on 06/04/2012 8:47:34 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: EBH

Do you think it would be possible to make this more know to the public? Like making a youtube to go viral... getting local news on it? Is there anything that can be done to make it know to the general public (the problems.. well, I think you know what I mean)?


84 posted on 06/04/2012 8:54:25 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: ex91B10

Don’t know you.. 1st time I’ve seen you here.. but I like your thinking (Homepage ;))

I was USAF.. then moved onto Texas Army NG (13E).. enjoyed the Army 13E.. but missed the USAF food ;)


85 posted on 06/04/2012 8:59:24 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: longtermmemmory

It’s nothing new with this (racist) marxist b@st@rd :/


86 posted on 06/04/2012 9:01:12 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: W. W. SMITH
To those who would like this nation to remain the land of the free, be one of the brave and become a poll watcher. Every voting place in the nation should have watchers ten deep.

And those watchers should be armed.
87 posted on 06/04/2012 9:32:32 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: seekthetruth
I sent this to my county supe:

I strongly support the State of Florida purging its voter rolls of ineligible and deceased voters. I hope you will continue to uphold Florida law and accurately work to complete the purge.I am a registered Democrat. My name is -----. I live in ------. Thank you for your attention.

88 posted on 06/04/2012 9:52:11 AM PDT by arthurus ( Read Henry hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson")
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To: arthurus

Are you really a registered Democrat?


89 posted on 06/04/2012 9:59:50 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Kickass Conservative

FWIW, FL used to use voter rolls for jury pools.

IIRC, within the last 20 years, some perpetually angry Amish complained they were not represented well enough and we went to driver licenses.

Do not expect a jury of your peers in FL.


90 posted on 06/04/2012 10:15:20 AM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves)
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To: Gay State Conservative
we shouldn't be surprised if,in November,the Department of Just Us doesn't move to have FL’s Electors stripped of their votes.

The Dept. of "Just Us" hasn't got a say in that process. It's entirely up to the House of Representatives.

91 posted on 06/04/2012 11:05:29 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: arthurus
Great! I hope ALL Florida patriots contact their county Supervisor of Elections and let him/her know the same!

Here is a great link to just click on your particular Florida county and see contact information for your particular county Supervisor of Elections!

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/SOE/supervisor_elections.shtml

92 posted on 06/04/2012 1:26:21 PM PDT by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: thulldud
The Dept. of "Just Us" hasn't got a say in that process. It's entirely up to the House of Representatives.

You lack imagination.

93 posted on 06/04/2012 1:46:34 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: montag813

Eric Holder, criminal. Criminal. Crimes of his kind should be hanging crimes.


94 posted on 06/04/2012 1:51:53 PM PDT by veracious
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To: okie01
>there is plenty of evidence that would justify investigation (and issuing a warrant) by the states for Treason (as defined in those States's Constitution)

Treason is a federal crime. There won't be a Treason reference in any state constitution as the states have no jurisdiction.

Then can you kindly explain these?
(By the way, thank you for giving me an excuse to find/compile all these links to the Constitutions of the Several States.)

Constitution of Alabama -- Article 1, SECTION 18
Treason against the state.
That treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, or adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort; and that no person shall be convicted of treason, except on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or his own confession in open court.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF ALASKA -- Section 1.10 - Treason.
Treason against the State consists only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Arizona Constitution --Art 2, Section 28.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against the state, or adhering to its enemies, or in giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or confession in open court.
Note: The Arizona Supreme Court has ruled Article 28 unconstitutional, however the declaration of its inapplicability does not remove any part of Article 28 from the Constitution.
Question: Where in the Arizona Constitution is the State's Supreme Court allowed to alter/amend/void sections of the Constitution?
Constitution Of The State Of Arkansas Of 1874 -- Article 2, Sec 14. Treason.
Treason against the State shall only consist in levying and making war against the same, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Constitution of the State of California -- Art 1, Sec. 20. Treason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies, or giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason, unless the evidence of two witnesses to the same overt act, or confession in open court.
Colorado Constitution -- Art 2, , Section 9. Treason & estates of suicides.
Treason against the state can consist only in levying war against it or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort; no person can be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on his confession in open court; no person can be attainted of treason or felony by the general assembly; no conviction can work corruption of blood or forfeiture of estate; the estates of such persons as may destroy their own lives shall descend or vest as in cases of natural death.
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT -- ARTICLE NINTH, SEC. 4. Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, or adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of at least two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. No conviction of treason, or attainder, shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture
GOVERNMENT FOR THE STATE OF DELAWARE -- ARTICLE. VI, Section 3. Treason against this State shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to the enemies of the Government, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act or on confession in open court.
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA -- ART I, SECTION 20. Treason.—
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies, or giving them aid and comfort, and no person shall be convicted of treason except on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act or on confession in open court.
STATE CONSTITUTION OF GEORGIA -- ARTICLE I, SECTION I, Paragraph XIX. Treason.
Treason against the State of Georgia shall consist of insurrection against the state, adhering to the state's enemies, or giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason except on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act or confession in open court.
NOT PRESENT IN HAWAII CONSTITUTION
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF IDAHO -- ARTICLE V, Section 5.
Treason defined and limited. Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, or adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. No conviction of treason or attainder shall work corruption of blood or forfeiture of estate.
Constitution of the State of Illinois
CONTAINS NO DEFINITION FOR TREASON, BUT MENTIONS IT IN SEVERAL SECTIONS.
Indiana Constitution -- Article 1, Section 28.
Treason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it, and in giving aid and comfort to its enemies.
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF IOWA -- ARTICLE I, SEC. 16. Treason.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies, or giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the evidence of two witnesses to the same overt act, or confession in open court.
Kansas Constitution -- Bill of Rights, #13. Treason.
Treason shall consist only in levying war against the state, adhering to its enemies, or giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the evidence of two witnesses to the overt act, or confession in open court.
Kentucky Constitution -- Section 229.
Treason against the Commonwealth shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason except on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or his own confession in open court.
Constitution of Louisiana -- DOES NOT MENTION TREASON
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF MAINE -- Art 1, Section 12. Treason; testimony of 2 witnesses.
Treason against this State shall consist only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of 2 witnesses to the same overt act, or confession in open court.
CONSTITUTION OF MARYLAND -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE IT.
Constitution of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE IT.
Constitution of the State of Michigan -- ARTICLE 1, 16.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA -- Article 1, Sec. 9.
Treason defined. Treason against the state consists only in levying war against the state, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act or on confession in open court.
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI -- Article 3, Section 10
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against the same or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Missouri Constitution -- Article 1, Section 30.
That treason against the state can consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort; that no person can be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on his confession in open court; that no person can be attainted of treason or felony by the general assembly; that no conviction can work corruption of blood or forfeiture of estate; that the estates of such persons as may destroy their own lives shall descend or vest as in cases of natural death; and when any person shall be killed by casualty, there shall be no forfeiture by reason thereof.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF MONTANA -- Article II, Section 30.
Treason and descent of estates. Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort; no person shall be convicted of treason except on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on his confession in open court; no person shall be attainted of treason or felony by the legislature; no conviction shall cause the loss of property to the relatives or heirs of the convicted. The estates of suicides shall descend or vest as in cases of natural death.
Nebraska Constitution -- I-14. Treason.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against the state, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF NEVADA -- Art 1, Sec: 19.  Treason.
 Treason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies or giving them Aid and Comfort. And no person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Constitution of the State of New Hampshire -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE
NEW JERSEY STATE CONSTITUTION -- Article 1, 17.
Treason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Constitution of the State of New Mexico -- ARTICLE II, Sec. 16. [Treason.]
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies, or giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
New York State Constitution -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE
North Carolina State Constitution -- Article I, Sec. 29. Treason against the State.
Treason against the State shall consist only of levying war against it or adhering to its enemies by giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. No conviction of treason or attainder shall work corruption of blood or forfeiture.
North Dakota Constitution -- Article 1, Section 17.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, adhering to its enemies or giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the evidence of two witnesses to the same overt act, or confession in open court.
The Ohio Constitution -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE
Oklahoma Constitution -- § Article 2 section 16. Treason
Treason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Constitution of Oregon -- ARTICLE I, Section 24. Treason.
Treason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it, or adhering to its enemies, giving them aid or comfort.—No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or confession in open Court.
CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE
Constitution of the State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations -- DOES NOT MENTION TREASON.
South Carolina Constitution -- Article I, SECTION 17. Treason.
Treason against the State shall consist alone in levying war or in giving aid and comfort to enemies against the State. No person shall be held guilty of treason, except upon testimony of at least two witnesses to the same overt act, or upon confession in open court. (1970 (56) 2684; 1971 (57) 315; 2007 Act No. 15.)
SOUTH DAKOTA CONSTITUTION -- Article VI, § 25. Treason.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, or in giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act or confession in open court.
CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF TENNESSEE -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE IT.
Texas Constitution -- ARTICLE 1, Sec. 22. TREASON. Treason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it, or adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort; and no person shall be convicted of treason except on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Utah Constitution -- Article I, Section 19
reason against the State shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies or in giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act.
Constitution of the State of Vermont -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE IT
Constitution of Virginia -- MENTIONS TREASON; DOES NOT DEFINE IT.
Washington State Constitution -- ARTICLE I, SECTION 27 TREASON, DEFINED, ETC.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against the state, or adhering to its enemies, or in giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or confession in open court.
Constitution of West Virginia -- 2-6. Treason, what constitutes -- Penalty.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. Treason shall be punished according to the character of the acts committed, by the infliction of one, or more, of the penalties of death, imprisonment or fine, as may be prescribed by law.
Wisconsin Constitution -- ARTICLE I, SECTION 10. Treason.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against the same, or in adhering to its enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
Constitution of the State of Wyoming -- Article 1, Sec. 26. Treason.
Treason against the state shall consist only in levying war against it, or in adhering to its enemies, or in giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court; nor shall any person be attained of treason by the legislature.

States w/o treason DEFINED in their constitution: 10 (or 11, if I miscounted)

95 posted on 06/04/2012 2:28:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
All well and good.

But none of the states can enforce their laws against "treason". They simply have no jurisdiction.

For example, do you recall any state ever trying a "treason" case?

96 posted on 06/04/2012 3:00:21 PM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01
But none of the states can enforce their laws against "treason". They simply have no jurisdiction.

They must have [some] jurisdiction, because the Federal Constitution says:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
Otherwise someone could wage war against ONE state and it not be so punishable. furthermore, the 10th amendment says:
Notice also that it says "against the United States" and some of the State-definitions sat "against the State [OF STATE_NAME]", there fore it may be perfectly reasonable to charge someone with Treason Against the State of Arizona and not the United States.
Thirdly, notice how the definition protects the States, but does not protect the federal government -- that is not, I think, by accident.

But, furthermore, the States must have jurisdiction in the cases where the perpetrator is the federal government (or at least agencies thereof)... just like in Fast & Furious.

For example, do you recall any state ever trying a "treason" case?

No, but then again, I'm not a lawyer.
There appear to be several news articles online; I can't get the NYT ones and some of the others looked like governor whining. But that was a VERY cursory look.

97 posted on 06/04/2012 3:50:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Zakeet

Would love to have that bumper sticker on my car! Democrats will be furious!!


98 posted on 06/04/2012 4:05:58 PM PDT by Buddygirl (Just about all Democrats are (blank). You fill in the blank!)
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To: montag813

I just read on Drudge that Holder’s DOJ has announced that it will monitor the Wisconsin voting tomorrow.

So, if they can’t cheat enough, they are going to send in the justice dept to make sure that all the illegal votes get counted.


99 posted on 06/04/2012 4:10:13 PM PDT by Eva
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To: seekthetruth
I just received this email from the county Supervisor of Elections:

I can assure you that a process is in place to address these issues. We must ensure we never remove anyone that should remain AND We must ensure we never allow someone that should not be on the rolls vote. Mark A. Andersen

100 posted on 06/04/2012 4:55:36 PM PDT by arthurus ( Read Henry hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson")
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